1. 07-22-15 11:30 PM #1
    blackHIPPY
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    Are there not any online betting exchanges for the U.S. Player?

    If not why not
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  2. 07-23-15 12:20 AM #2
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    Still no exchange since February 2013 when bookmaker/DSI closed up betmaker.ag . Hard to believe really when in reality you only really need about 50 or so solid players willing to make lines/offers and make trades. Really need an exchange come football season and basketball season. Without it sports betting is very dull. People want to show their creative side and not be stuck in the dark ages. Hard to believe with all this technology we have taken major steps backward.
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  3. 07-23-15 12:22 AM #3
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    People thought when Bookmaker acquired Betmaker they would make something big out of it, instead they made it disappear. No one ever tried to make another Betmaker re-appear. Probably too difficult and unprofitable to run without massive seeding.

    U.S. players also have more of a "cowboy" mentality. They want to crush the bookie, destroy the bookie, beat up the bad bookie. Can't do that at an exchange.
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  4. 07-23-15 03:33 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackHIPPY View Post
    If not why not
    well, if you believe JJ, American punters are just too stupid to cope with an exchange
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  5. 07-23-15 08:44 AM #5
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    It's the old chicken-and-egg critical mass problem. You really need a ton of players to make it worthwhile for someone to spend time seeding markets, and you won't get players unless they can match a bet at a good price pretty often.

    It's the perfect application for Bitcoin, but unfortunately the guys who have the technology chops to put something together don't have a clue how to interface with the betting market.

    Here's an example. Nice idea. No clue.

    https://www.fairlay.com/
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  6. 07-23-15 08:56 AM #6
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    Every exchange in the world has no volume but betfair there's absolutely no demand for it

    All failed
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  7. 07-23-15 11:16 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookie View Post
    Here's an example. Nice idea. No clue.

    https://www.fairlay.com/
    Love the domain name but agree that it seems weird a Bitcoin focused exchange would be offering props about if other bitcoin businesses will lose customer money or not this year.
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  8. 07-23-15 12:26 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Love the domain name but agree that it seems weird a Bitcoin focused exchange would be offering props about if other bitcoin businesses will lose customer money or not this year.
    Actually, sounds like a interesting way to insure your balance in another book. The only problem is that you have to trust the book you are making that bet at.
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  9. 07-23-15 02:12 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Every exchange in the world has no volume but betfair there's absolutely no demand for it

    All failed
    So very wrong again!

    Matchbook is doing ok.
    Apart from golf I rarely bet sports at Betfair any more.
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  10. 07-25-15 06:09 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    So very wrong again!

    Matchbook is doing ok.
    Apart from golf I rarely bet sports at Betfair any more.

    he isnt wrong though is he, name one successful exchange that is still going. matchbook is as bad as betdaq used to be.

    the rest? all went up.
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  11. 07-25-15 06:51 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedDevil1974 View Post
    he isnt wrong though is he, name one successful exchange that is still going. matchbook is as bad as betdaq used to be.

    the rest? all went up.
    I never used Betdaq - it just didn't appear to me to be anywhere near as good as Betfair.
    But Matchbook is excellent. Don't know what you're problem with them is.
    Even though I'm on a decently discounted commission with Betfair, I can almost always get better net odds for my bets at Matchbook than I can at Betfair, SBO and Pinnacle.
    I'm very sure both Betfair and Matchbook would get enormous amounts of business from the US if they were able to accept them as customers.
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  12. 07-25-15 07:25 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    I never used Betdaq - it just didn't appear to me to be anywhere near as good as Betfair.
    But Matchbook is excellent. Don't know what you're problem with them is.
    Even though I'm on a decently discounted commission with Betfair, I can almost always get better net odds for my bets at Matchbook than I can at Betfair, SBO and Pinnacle.
    I'm very sure both Betfair and Matchbook would get enormous amounts of business from the US if they were able to accept them as customers.
    yes but they dont, and neither do the other failed exchanges, which was his main point.
    and as per most, the ip betting is poor on matchbook. both for options and for cash amounts.
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  13. 07-25-15 07:42 PM #13
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  14. 07-25-15 08:32 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedDevil1974 View Post
    yes but they dont, and neither do the other failed exchanges, which was his main point.
    and as per most, the ip betting is poor on matchbook. both for options and for cash amounts.
    his "main point" was that they failed because US punters are stupid
    but you are saying the other failed exchanges didn't accept US punters
    my point is that they aren't stupid, they have just lacked decent opportunity to use a good exchange
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  15. 07-26-15 01:27 PM #15
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    matchbook has seeded volume by owners daily

    It is very easy to follow their money and flow and tell

    Decent liquidity for American Sports..tennis and soccer so so

    Its not a bad thing though and real safe top shelf book
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