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    GT Bets now banned and on the blacklist for blatant lies

    As those who know me know, I do not tolerate less than decent service from these offshore books, and I do not do business with any place that lies, deceives, misleads, conceals, and/or does not openly disclose without any misrepresenation all material facts about an offer. GT Bets has now grossly failed, and I gave them multiple chances to correct themselves, make it right, honor their word, and since they refused I suggest to all to immediately boycott them, withdraw all monies and close any accounts you have with them. In a final attempt to remedy the situation, even on their just blatantly lying that SBR says that they're a top 10 online sportsbook in the world, when they're an average "B" rated book at best GT Bets has NO interest in being open, honest, forthcoming as the evidence shows. Thus, they cannot be trusted plain and simple.

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    Subject: RE: [#DRB-976-16073]: Welcome to GT ,D ! How does an extra 5% on your sign up bonus sound?

    Dear Byron,

    Thank you for your timely reply, however, trying to justify your bad behavior by pointing to others' bad behavior is a disgrace.

    Sending an email solicitation about 100% "bonus" without in any way disclosing that it is simply an offer to get 100% additional, if and only if you comply with a ridiculous 10X rollover requirement and/or all the rules, policies, terms and conditions, etc. of the offer is an intentional ploy to lie, deceive, mislead, scam, conceal, etc. to your customer to which your response clearly indicates that you have no remorse for, and have no intention of correcting much less apologizing.

    Shocking that you would further blatantly lie about being a top 10 online sportsbook in the world according to SBR. The fact is, SBR's rating for GT Bets is a "B" rated sportsbook. Not a B+, and certainly not an A-, A much less a top 10 A+ rated 'book. For the record, SBR doesn't even have GT Bets rated in the top 30, much less top 10. I guess you just don't know when to stop lying, deceiving, misleading, etc. which is why I'd never trust you with any of my action.

    My email to you stated that if you honored your word, in exchange I would honor completing at least a 1X rollover, which you ignored and/or evaded in your response mentioning an immediate cashout that does not apply in this case. Perhaps you should read and better digest/comprehend what is written before replying.

    Saying the industry is "set in stone" is just another bogus response. From my own personal experience some offer 1X, 3X, 5X, 8X rollovers. Some allow you to forfeit the deal and any winning associated with the offer if you want to avoid the rollover/rules after the fact. Some like youwager.eu allow you to withdraw winnings anytime, and you just cannot withdraw the principle until all rollover/rules are met. Basically, everyone is different with their own rollover/rules, etc. Why GT Bets just simply doesn't choose to be open, honest and forthcoming about its offers is a shame to say the least.

    Your email also specifically stated that you'll do whatever to make sure the experience is enjoyable, yet, obviously your words are empty, meaningless and are just pie-in-the-sky worthless. You see, if you were a top online financially strong sportsbook true to its word, you'd have chosen either option # 1 or option # 3 that I presented. Seriously, you could have just offered me a $10 free play, which only permits me to keep the winnings (if any) of the play. I can only presume then from your response that it's because you're broke, and are on the verge of going bankrupt. If GT Bets is not broke, than GT Bets could have chosen to done the right thing and offered something, but instead it's not as you write that you are not able to offer the free play, it's that you have decided not to do so. Thus, just more lying from you about doing "whatever" you can for me, and though you like to talk the talk, you do not walk the walk. As they say, talk is cheap, as it's not what you say, it's all about what you do. To be clear, what you have done is a disgrace, and is anything but an enjoyable experience.

    I have now documented concretely, verifiably and indisputably that what you say and what you do is night and day different. Forgive me, but if that's how GT Bets thinks it maximizes its prosperity by choosing to conduct itself in this manner, then I think you're way off but good luck with that.

    As I also clearly wrote, if you do not choose either option # 1 or option # 3, then to close any account I may have opened, take me off any contact list, and to refrain from contacting me again as I'd never do any business with you. Instead, you dishonored me by ignoring the simple request, and then further dishonored GT Bets with more lies.

    Last chance and so please read carefully. Either you choose option # 1 or option # 3, or immediately close any account I may have opened, remove my name, email, address, phone number, etc. from any and all contact lists, and do not ever contact me again at anytime for any reason. Good day!

    DF


    Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2015 10:27:11 -0400
    Subject: [#DRB-976-16073]: Welcome to GT ,D! How does an extra 5% on your sign up bonus sound?
    From: support@gtbets.eu
    To: *@hotmail.com


    Dear D,

    Thank you for contacting us here at GT.

    I can assure you that GTbets is 100% legitimate and up front as a company. If you look us up on www.sportsbookreview.com, which is THE authority when it comes to online sites such as ours, you will find that we are amongst the top 10 online sportsbooks /casinos in the world*. The world.
    To answer your questions, D, the welcome bonus does in fact carry a rollover. Namely: (deposit amount+ bonus amount) x 10*

    I can appreciate where you are coming from in regards to the rollover not being mentioned in the email, but as rollovers on sign up bonuses are a industry standard set in stone pretty much, I did not include it in my email to you. I have yet to see of hear about an online book that offers a rollover-less sign up bonus of 100% and up. That would be giving away hundreds of dollars for free, with members signing up merely to put in their money, get it matched by us, followed by an immediate "cashout" without a sinlge bet being placed.

    We would be more than happy to have you as a active member here with us at GT, D, but unfortunately, I am simply not able to offer you a free play at this time.
    If you enter in the ST3105 code in the coupon code box when making your deposit, Gt WILL match you with 105% in cash. As I already mentioned above, it will in fact carry a rollover though*


    If you have any more questions or comments please feel free to contact us at any time, D.



    Kind regards,

    Byron
    *www.Gtbets.eu*
    *Toll free: 1-800-509-4847*
    *Email: support@Gtbets.eu




    <fieldset style="color:#333333;FONT:11px Verdana, Tahoma;PADDING:3px;"> <legend>Ticket History</legend> D (Client) Posted On: 04 April 2015 12:35 AM

    Dear Byron,

    From my experience, when online offshore sportsbooks email me about a "bonus" I find that 99% of the time it's a lie. How about you and GT Bets? If you're truly offering me as YOUR words state in YOUR email <see below> a 105% bonus, then you're the best, and I will make a deposit. However, if you're like 99% of the others that lie, cheat, mislead, deceive, withhold, conceal, and/or do not openly disclose without any misrepresentation all material facts about the offer, then I wouldn't trust you with a penny of my action.

    There is NOTHING in your email about any rule, rollover, exclusion, limitation, policy, etc. and so please confirm that your "bonus" is true free and clear. If not sir, if there is any rule, rollover, exclusion, limitation, policy, etc. that applies to your so called bonus then the truth is that instead of offering me a bonus, you're a scam. You're a scam because you in NO way mention anything in your email about rules, rollovers, exclusions, limitations, policies, etc., do you? Not even a "*" with something like see rules or terms and conditions apply type of thing. Also, if there is like a rollover requirement, then the rollover or rules are a 'bonus' to the 'book. Thus, it's not a "bonus" to me that you're offering, it's an offer, or a deal, or a proposition where you propose to do something for me, but ONLY if an exchange I agree to do something for you.

    If that's the case, then I'd suggest you NEVER use the word "bonus" again unless it truly is a bonus, or unless you don't care about your reputation. I welcome any offer/proposal that you can to make, just simply call it such, instead of fabricating. I'd also suggest that you NEVER send another email that fails to openly disclose, or that lies, deceives, misleads, conceals, etc. again if GT Bets' reputation means anything to it's owner(s). So here's my deal for you/GT Bets, choose one of the following:

    1) You'll apologize for the blunder, promise to never do it again, and offer me a free play.

    2) You'll close any account that I may have opened, remove me from any and all contact lists, and refrain from ever contacting me again.

    3) You'll back YOUR words in this email that YOU sent me, grant the 105% bonus without any rule, rollover, exclusion, limitation, policy, etc., as your email has NONE mentioned/indicated. [I'd agree to a 1X Rollover of the deposit + bonus]

    Plus, YOUR words - "we値l do whatever we can to make sure that your gaming experience is safe, enjoyable, and exciting," are now also on the line. So, you've talked the talk, now let's see you walk the walk, unless you choose option # 2. So what's it going to be GT Bets, Option 1, Option 2 or Option 3? YOU decide!

    DF

    Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 18:24:40 -0400
    Subject: [#DRB-976-16073]: Welcome to GT ,D ! How does an extra 5% on your sign up bonus sound?
    From: support@gtbets.eu
    To: *@hotmail.com

    Dear D,



    We壇 like to personally welcome you to GTbets.eu! I知 a client services specialist, so if you have any questions at all, please do not hesitate to contact us and ask for me directly. (Byron)

    I tried calling to welcome you in person, but I guess I must have missed you!



    I am able to offer you an extra 5% on your sign up bonus. So that would be 105% up to $265 as opposed to the regular 100% up to $250. Simply BE SURE to enter this code : ST3105 into the coupon code box in the CASHIER section of the website BEFORE you try to make a deposit in order to claim this. This also applies for cash deposits using either western union or ****(must deposit within 48 hrs*)

    If you just so happen to want to deposit more than $500 as your first deposit, we are then able to offer you an additional 5% on the 50% sign up bonus we offer new members on their first deposit of $500 or more.** so this would be 55% (up to $525) the code for this version of the promo is : ST355



    As far as deposit options go, you can use pretty much any kind of card that carries a **** logo AND is able to do international purchases. This includes gift, debit, pre-paid and Green Dot cards.

    We also accept ** and ** deposits as well. Contact me directly for sending information and you could then either send from one of their store locations OR via the ** or ** online websites* I would really suggest you give either one of these cash deposit options a try as these are quite popular amongst our members and are really very easy to set up.



    Oh and in case you did not already know , GTBets offers something that is not offered by many other Sportsbooks. Just for being a member with us you値l receive a free ス point every time you bet on your favorite professional teams during the regular season, and a full point for your favorite college teams.

    If you have any questions about these, or any other promotions we might be offering , please let us know!

    If you haven稚 already selected your Favorite Teams, please go to the My Account section and select your two favorite teams in NFL, College Football, NBA, and College Basketball.



    Once again, welcome to the GTBets family, we値l do whatever we can to make sure that your gaming experience is safe, enjoyable, and exciting!



    Regards,



    Byron

    *www.Gtbets.eu*

    *Toll free: 1-800-509-4847*

    *Email: support@Gtbets.eu










    Ticket Details


    Ticket ID: DRB-976-16073

    Department: GTbets - Support

    Type: Issue

    Status: Open

    Priority: Normal






    D (Client) Posted On: 04 April 2015 12:35 AM

    Dear Byron,

    From my experience, when online offshore sportsbooks email me about a "bonus" I find that 99% of the time it's a lie. How about you and GT Bets? If you're truly offering me as YOUR words state in YOUR email <see below> a 105% bonus, then you're the best, and I will make a deposit. However, if you're like 99% of the others that lie, cheat, mislead, deceive, withhold, conceal, and/or do not openly disclose without any misrepresentation all material facts about the offer, then I wouldn't trust you with a penny of my action.

    There is NOTHING in your email about any rule, rollover, exclusion, limitation, policy, etc. and so please confirm that your "bonus" is true free and clear. If not sir, if there is any rule, rollover, exclusion, limitation, policy, etc. that applies to your so called bonus then the truth is that instead of offering me a bonus, you're a scam. You're a scam because you in NO way mention anything in your email about rules, rollovers, exclusions, limitations, policies, etc., do you? Not even a "*" with something like see rules or terms and conditions apply type of thing. Also, if there is like a rollover requirement, then the rollover or rules are a 'bonus' to the 'book. Thus, it's not a "bonus" to me that you're offering, it's an offer, or a deal, or a proposition where you propose to do something for me, but ONLY if an exchange I agree to do something for you.

    If that's the case, then I'd suggest you NEVER use the word "bonus" again unless it truly is a bonus, or unless you don't care about your reputation. I welcome any offer/proposal that you can to make, just simply call it such, instead of fabricating. I'd also suggest that you NEVER send another email that fails to openly disclose, or that lies, deceives, misleads, conceals, etc. again if GT Bets' reputation means anything to it's owner(s). So here's my deal for you/GT Bets, choose one of the following:

    1) You'll apologize for the blunder, promise to never do it again, and offer me a free play.

    2) You'll close any account that I may have opened, remove me from any and all contact lists, and refrain from ever contacting me again.

    3) You'll back YOUR words in this email that YOU sent me, grant the 105% bonus without any rule, rollover, exclusion, limitation, policy, etc., as your email has NONE mentioned/indicated. [I'd agree to a 1X Rollover of the deposit + bonus]

    Plus, YOUR words - "we値l do whatever we can to make sure that your gaming experience is safe, enjoyable, and exciting," are now also on the line. So, you've talked the talk, now let's see you walk the walk, unless you choose option # 2. So what's it going to be GT Bets, Option 1, Option 2 or Option 3? YOU decide!

    DF

    Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 18:24:40 -0400
    Subject: [#DRB-976-16073]: Welcome to GT ,D ! How does an extra 5% on your sign up bonus sound?
    From: support@gtbets.eu
    To: *@hotmail.com

    Dear D,



    We壇 like to personally welcome you to GTbets.eu! I知 a client services specialist, so if you have any questions at all, please do not hesitate to contact us and ask for me directly. (Byron)

    I tried calling to welcome you in person, but I guess I must have missed you!



    I am able to offer you an extra 5% on your sign up bonus. So that would be 105% up to $265 as opposed to the regular 100% up to $250. Simply BE SURE to enter this code : ST3105 into the coupon code box in the CASHIER section of the website BEFORE you try to make a deposit in order to claim this. This also applies for cash deposits using either western union or ****(must deposit within 48 hrs*)

    If you just so happen to want to deposit more than $500 as your first deposit, we are then able to offer you an additional 5% on the 50% sign up bonus we offer new members on their first deposit of $500 or more.** so this would be 55% (up to $525) the code for this version of the promo is : ST355



    As far as deposit options go, you can use pretty much any kind of card that carries a **** logo AND is able to do international purchases. This includes gift, debit, pre-paid and Green Dot cards.

    We also accept ** and ** deposits as well. Contact me directly for sending information and you could then either send from one of their store locations OR via the ** or ** online websites* I would really suggest you give either one of these cash deposit options a try as these are quite popular amongst our members and are really very easy to set up.



    Oh and in case you did not already know , GTBets offers something that is not offered by many other Sportsbooks. Just for being a member with us you値l receive a free ス point every time you bet on your favorite professional teams during the regular season, and a full point for your favorite college teams.

    If you have any questions about these, or any other promotions we might be offering , please let us know!

    If you haven稚 already selected your Favorite Teams, please go to the My Account section and select your two favorite teams in NFL, College Football, NBA, and College Basketball.



    Once again, welcome to the GTBets family, we値l do whatever we can to make sure that your gaming experience is safe, enjoyable, and exciting!



    Regards,



    Byron

    *www.Gtbets.eu*

    *Toll free: 1-800-509-4847*

    *Email: support@Gtbets.eu










    Ticket Details


    Ticket ID: DRB-976-16073

    Department: GTbets - Support

    Type: Issue

    Status: Open

    Priority: Normal






    Byron . (Staff) Posted On: 19 March 2015 06:24 PM

    Dear D,

    We壇 like to personally welcome you to GTbets.eu! I知 a client services specialist, so if you have any questions at all, please do not hesitate to contact us and ask for me directly. (Byron)
    I tried calling to welcome you in person, but I guess I must have missed you!

    I am able to offer you an extra 5% on your sign up bonus. So that would be 105% up to $265 as opposed to the regular 100% up to $250. Simply BE SURE to enter this code : ST3105 into the coupon code box in the CASHIER section of the website BEFORE you try to make a deposit in order to claim this. This also applies for cash deposits using either western union or ****(must deposit within 48 hrs*)
    If you just so happen to want to deposit more than $500 as your first deposit, we are then able to offer you an additional 5% on the 50% sign up bonus we offer new members on their first deposit of $500 or more.** so this would be 55% (up to $525) the code for this version of the promo is : ST355

    As far as deposit options go, you can use pretty much any kind of card that carries a **** logo AND is able to do international purchases. This includes gift, debit, pre-paid and Green Dot cards.
    We also accept ** and ** deposits as well. Contact me directly for sending information and you could then either send from one of their store locations OR via the ** or ** online websites* I would really suggest you give either one of these cash deposit options a try as these are quite popular amongst our members and are really very easy to set up.

    Oh and in case you did not already know , GTBets offers something that is not offered by many other Sportsbooks. Just for being a member with us you値l receive a free ス point every time you bet on your favorite professional teams during the regular season, and a full point for your favorite college teams.
    If you have any questions about these, or any other promotions we might be offering , please let us know!
    If you haven稚 already selected your Favorite Teams, please go to the My Account section and select your two favorite teams in NFL, College Football, NBA, and College Basketball.

    Once again, welcome to the GTBets family, we値l do whatever we can to make sure that your gaming experience is safe, enjoyable, and exciting!

    Regards,

    Byron
    *www.Gtbets.eu*
    *Toll free: 1-800-509-4847*
    *Email: support@Gtbets.eu



    </fieldset> Ticket Details

    Ticket ID: DRB-976-16073
    Department: GTbets - Support
    Type: Issue
    Status: Closed
    Priority: Normal


    BOYCOTT gtbets!

  2. #2
    MoMoneyMoVaughn
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    Wait so the issue is that there is too much rollover for your liking??

    Is the the TL;DR?

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    4seasons
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    Dude, I said DO NOT CONTACT me again! Sorry gtbets is broke, which would be the only reason that you cannot make an offer to resolve your errors. There is nothing "free" about an offer if a deposit or anything is required. After calling you out on numerous bogus lies, such as that SBR has gtbets rated 1 of the 10 best online sportsbooks in the world, you couldn't even be decent enough to apologize on that which by itself is a disgrace. So now you've earned the following:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post23825559

    I'd suggest that you DO NOT CONTACT me again, unless you enjoy earning more negative publicity.

    DF

    PS I just hope your emails to me are worth to you what you got, which is what you so richly deserve based on your deplorable actions. You may want to rethink to who and what you're emailing.

    Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2015 13:49:09 -0400
    Subject: [#DRB-976-16073]: Welcome to GT ,D ! How does an extra 5% on your sign up bonus sound?
    From: welcome@gtbets.eu
    To: *@hotmail.com


    Dear D,

    Thank you for contacting us here at GT.

    As I am not able to offer you anything free without any deposits being made,your account has been closed , D.


    Kind regards,

    Byron
    *www.Gtbets.eu*
    *Toll free: 1-800-509-4847*
    *Email: support@Gtbets.eu


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    He is a crying little bitch that is trying to get a handout.....next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn View Post
    Wait so the issue is that there is too much rollover for your liking??

    Is the the TL;DR?
    No sir, not at all. The issues are as follows:

    1) They offer a bonus that is not a bonus.
    2) They do not openly disclose without any misrepresentation all material facts about their offer. Instead, they purposely lie, deceive, mislead, conceal, evade, etc. in fact they do not disclose anything.
    3) They told me that SBR has them ranked as 1 of the 10 best online sportsbooks in the world, which is more blatant lying.
    4) They told me that they'll do whatever they can to make the experience enjoyable, which when called on they blatantly failed to do as their response can only mean that they're broke and are going bankrupt.
    5) I told them to not contact me again, and they violated a DO NOT CONTACT request.

    That's just for starters. Has NOTHING to do with making an offer even if it had 1000X rollover required.

    BOYCOTT gtbets!
    Last edited by 4seasons; 04-04-15 at 02:04 PM.

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    Whatever!

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    wtf, i don't have 3 days to read all that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADR51 View Post
    He is a crying little bitch that is trying to get a handout.....next.
    Feel free to pimp gtbets all you'd like. Fact is, I did not initiate any contact with them about a handout. They initiated contact with me me about a "bonus" that they failed to honor, apologize for not being accurate true and correct, and simply continued with more lies. Of all the decent reputable places to play with, if this is who you like to do business with then do as you wish and smoke another one. I do not do business with liars, cheaters, deceivers, misleaders, concealers, evaders, etc. which I just concretely proved without any doubt is the type of 'book gtbets is.

    BOYCOTT gtbets!

  9. #9
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    Not this again

    4Seasons, your now regular rants about books are always way out of proportion.

    I wish I hadn't read all that but as MoMoney pointed out your issue appears to actually be that you don't like a 10x rollover so have gone to town picking apart any little thing you think you can.

    You have had your say. As you have shown previously that you simply wont stop re-posting your rant for days on end and simply want to use SBR as an attack tool against books I am going to lock this thread for now. Admin can re-able it if they think it should be.

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