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    LFValue
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    EU licensees

    Morning everybody

    For bettors in certain EU member states it is of big importance that a bookmaker holds a gambling licence from member state of the EU.

    For instance winnings from EU-bookies are tax free for Danish bettors, while winnings from bookies that does not have an EU gambling licence are not. If I remember correctly the situation is the same in Sweden.

    I imagine that an EU-licence can be of importance for a number of other reasons and EU member states as well.

    As a result of this, I have been looking for a complete list of bookmakers currently holding a gambling licence issued by a member state of EU. However I have not had any luck finding a such list.

    My question is:
    Do a list of EU-bookies exist? And where?

    If not I hope that you will help me make such a list. Until now i know of:
    Bet365
    Unibet
    Partybets
    Cashpoint
    Mybet
    Interwetten
    Ladbrokes
    Tipico
    Bet25
    Tonybet
    Sportingbet
    Scandicbet
    Betsafe
    Nordicbet

    Thanks in advance

    -LFValue

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    You can view a list of companies who hold a UK licence here - https://secure.gamblingcommission.go.../PRSearch.aspx

    Can download as an xls to make things easier

    There are companies who are registered elsewhere in the EU who do not have a UK licence, so i'm not sure how you will find them. Comeon bet is an example (although they have applied)

    There will also be a lot of independent bookies here (shops) so will probably need to google to work out who you can use

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    I think your best bet is to work out which jurisdictions offer approved licensing and look for each ones member list. Like superhans has suggested with UK.

    But I see more than 1200 just for active betting companies in that UK list.


    You can get a list of rated SBR books by region here, but it really only covers UK, Gibraltar and Malta of European entities and I am guessing the last 2 don't count for your purposes anyway: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/spor...,268=on,271=on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    You can get a list of rated SBR books by region here, but it really only covers UK, Gibraltar and Malta of European entities and I am guessing the last 2 don't count for your purposes anyway: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/spor...,268=on,271=on
    Gibraltar and Malta are in the EU, as is the Isle of Man. The ones to watch out for are those in the Channel Islands, ie Guernsey and Alderney, which are outside the EU.

    Note that some bookies use their UK licence only for UK-based customers and direct the others to their CI operations. This is for tax purposes and maybe these days because of the need for account separation in the UK.

    Also note that the UKGC list often has the company registered name rather than its trading name. For example Done Brothers (Cash Betting) Limited is the shop operation of Betfred.
    Last edited by JayZ; 01-13-15 at 04:21 AM.

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    As I know all highrollers are using books outside european economic area and none of them pays taxes Note that British bookmarkers are all crappy, totally useless in this purpose as well as in every other purpose too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayZ View Post
    Gibraltar and Malta are in the EU, as is the Isle of Man. The ones to watch out for are those in the Channel Islands, ie Guernsey and Alderney, which are outside the EU.
    I agree about Malta and Gibraltar. However I am not so sure about Isle of man.

    Also - I have noticed the books using an UK licence for UK-based customers and some foregn licence for other EU-citizens - which is just sad.

    About winning outside of EU: I prefer to stick to the law. Which is why I need as many EU-bookies as possible.

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    I think they channel Islands are considered EU for trading purposes but you better check your country's gambling law. Unfortunately you won't get far in this business by sticking to the law, if gambling is your business. If it's just a hobby then fine.
    As far as I know UK residents don't break any laws by betting with unregulated and even non-EU bookmakers.

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    Just wish pinny would come back to uk market

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtrader View Post
    I think they channel Islands are considered EU for trading purposes but you better check your country's gambling law. Unfortunately you won't get far in this business by sticking to the law, if gambling is your business. If it's just a hobby then fine.
    As far as I know UK residents don't break any laws by betting with unregulated and even non-EU bookmakers.
    I have been betting for like a little short of 6 months and have made 5000 $. I am by no means a pro, and am not thinking about quitting my full time job. However 1k a month is a great sideincome.

    I have quite a few options for my next bookmaker. I'm considering Willhill, Coral, BetVictor or Goldbet.
    Did I miss any must-have EU-bookmakers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFValue View Post
    I have been betting for like a little short of 6 months and have made 5000 $. I am by no means a pro, and am not thinking about quitting my full time job. However 1k a month is a great sideincome.

    I have quite a few options for my next bookmaker. I'm considering Willhill, Coral, BetVictor or Goldbet.
    Did I miss any must-have EU-bookmakers?
    That's good and you should be using European books as long as possible but in the longer term it isn't sustainable as they will all restrict you. If they don't it means they don't think of you as a threat. If they do then your only option would be offshore books and exchanges.
    Most countries won't enforce fines against players that bet on unregulated sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtrader View Post
    That's good and you should be using European books as long as possible but in the longer term it isn't sustainable as they will all restrict you. If they don't it means they don't think of you as a threat. If they do then your only option would be offshore books and exchanges.
    Most countries won't enforce fines against players that bet on unregulated sites.
    You are probably right - however I have not been severely limited yet - other than at Interwetten.

    I hope to find another bookmaker with just as silly odds as Interwetten.

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