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    TenCount
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    Has anyone been shut off from an online book?

    I have had a pretty incredible year betting systems and it can almost entirely be attributed to the genius of a few posters on this site. I have taken ideas they have given me that I had never even thought about and adapted some of their systems and ideas to create my own. (I would never take credit from the posters who gave me the ideas in the first place) I have used a local book from the beginning where I had a credit line per week of $1,000 and $300 max bet. I have had a few increases and currently have a $10,000 credit limit per week and $1,000 max bet. All was fine and good until the local book pulled the plug on me and shut me down when I tried to get another increase. So now I am forced to turn to online books and am wondering if anyone has ever been shut down or heard of anyone being cut off and what kind of amounts they were wagering. Should I spread my bets over a few books or is my measly $1,000 - $2,000 at risk per day not have anything to worry about. To be honest I have no idea if this is considered a large amount to wager per day or an average amount. I never dreamed when this all started I would be betting this amount every day. I now look at betting sports as an investment not a hobby.

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    Playon
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    1000-2000$ at risk is not problem for big online books. Especially when they realize you are using some kind of system, that usually de facto means that you are continously buying prices where expected value is not in favor of you, so I think they are happy to get your money.

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    When you say "cut off" I assume you mean limited? I have had 7 books lower my limits to next to nothing ($50 max per bet) and many posters on this site have the same.

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    All bookies will limit you if they think you are profitable

    Pinnacle being the exception

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    I've been limited to betting peanuts with all the Euro and large Australian online "bookmakers" and been totally booted out by several of them.

    Of the big names, only Pinnacle and SBO haven't.
    And of course the exchanges, Betfair and Matchbook.
    But it sounds like you're in the US so can't access the best?
    I was limited on the sports I was playing at the time by 5Dimes and Bookmaker/DSI and other lesser US facing books including being booted by at least one of them
    Do some research. There are numerous past threads here on tactics to avoid being targeted. No guarantees though. Chances are that if you are detected as having a clue about betting they will get you.

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    Optional
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    If your system revolves around picking winners rather than finding the best odds possible for every bet, then you have a far better chance of not being limited than sharps who work the odds more than cap the games.

    And here's some good tips to help avoid being limited: Why do betting sites lower wagering limits: Is it for winning?
    Last edited by Optional; 01-12-15 at 04:10 AM.

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    Pickin winners without not being interested about the odds is like to bet on coin tossing and choosing heads or tails with odds -110.00. In long term you cant overcome loses by any strategy of staking, meaning you could beat negative expected value by staking some spesific way. Picking only the best odds without being interested of the game itself doesnt work neither. To crown all this insanity systems has always some kind of build-in staking strategy you have to follow, and these staking strategies are always forcing you to either place too low or too high stakes, but never optimal stakes considering the size of bankroll and the expected value of the event. Go ahead and try out those systems, but when its getting big, I would advice to reconsider.

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    no company will let you take money from them on a regular basis

    its called risk management

    every casino in Vegas does it too..its called tremendous business plan

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    I know some poster @ some other site who says he wins but splits his bets @ 4 Major books and says this keeps him under the radar since most books deal the same Lines.... Bookmaker, 5 dimes, Heritage, Betdsi ,Youwager... Bet 250 -500 @ each shop they will not bother you but if you bet 2500 a game @ one they might limit you...

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    In all these type of threads I see that "Bookmaker takes mammoth bets" and they "will never limit you".

    Now I'm not seeing that. What gives?

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    Pinnacle wont limit you for sure. I have seen they might limit your early line betting too, but in that case I quess people are not betting on early line because they are not interested in odds at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playon View Post
    Pickin winners without not being interested about the odds is like to bet on coin tossing and choosing heads or tails with odds -110.00. In long term you cant overcome loses by any strategy of staking, meaning you could beat negative expected value by staking some spesific way. Picking only the best odds without being interested of the game itself doesnt work neither. To crown all this insanity systems has always some kind of build-in staking strategy you have to follow, and these staking strategies are always forcing you to either place too low or too high stakes, but never optimal stakes considering the size of bankroll and the expected value of the event. Go ahead and try out those systems, but when its getting big, I would advice to reconsider.
    No argument Playon. But there are many types of bettors and one type in particular, the 'gambler', does not find excitement in knowing they can slowly win on average over the long term. You're arguing that a man that likes jogging should like swimming better because you do.

    Anyway, the point remains that if he is using one book and picking winners rather than picking off their best odds, he is much less likely to be limited quickly.

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    I admit that these systems can make profit even with negative expected value, but not much, only little slice of profit can be made. That must be boring if basically excitment hunting is the source of motivation. When going for big money, it leads to bankrupt, everytime.

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    I love it when some of these pussy books boot you after winning a few thousand

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    I f you win, you are not welcome to any bookie, the exception is pinnacle...I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by justlaw View Post
    I f you win, you are not welcome to any bookie, the exception is pinnacle...I think
    Lol you are a fool.

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    Bookmaker.eu won't limit you. All actions are welcome. If you can really beat them, then they'll say "Good for you".

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    That coward Griffen at 1 Vice cut me off for winning $1500.

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    Has anyone been shut down by Bovada

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    cocksuckers at hrwager shut me down a couple of months because I ass-raped them for 10k in about 3 weeks. they did pay though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebe View Post
    Has anyone been shut down by Bovada
    My bovada limits on living wagering is $1, props $25, and straight bets $50.

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    Did they make you take it out with $700 ** max ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder69 View Post
    Bookmaker.eu won't limit you. All actions are welcome. If you can really beat them, then they'll say "Good for you".
    Well, the first thing they'll do is kick you out of the Betpoints program. And it won't be with a nice little "good for you" note...

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    Quote Originally Posted by evo34 View Post
    Well, the first thing they'll do is kick you out of the Betpoints program. And it won't be with a nice little "good for you" note...
    Who cares about Betpoints if he's winning money ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by temple2010 View Post
    cocksuckers at hrwager shut me down a couple of months because I ass-raped them for 10k in about 3 weeks. they did pay though
    They pay but a very small book....very conservative

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    what the devil is he wager

    I want them penetrated

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepgotwool View Post
    Did they make you take it out with $700 ** max ?
    hrwager ******* me with one payout through MO that costed me about $150 or more (i forget it's been a while.) bastards
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