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    HRwager issues refund for UFC182 failed drug test




    HRWager To Issue Refunds on Cormier After Failed Jon Jones Drug Test

    By Gambling Forum
    Updated: January 7, 2015






    by George Dubois
    January 7th, 2015
    From the Home Office of HRWager - Integrity is of the utmost importance with HRWager.Ag. We were saddened to learn of Jon Jones’ failed drug test after his victory over Daniel Cormier at UFC182. Customer care specialists all the way up to the owner conferred into the wee hours of the morning. As a result of this meeting, we came up with this announcement.
    All wagers on Daniel Cormier to win have been refunded to our clients at HRWager.Ag.
    In addition, the wagers of Jones to win will be honored and paid out. We feel that our customers should not be punished by having one of the fighters having failed a pre fight drug test. Furthermore, we would rather not speculate on whether the presence of cocaine is performance enhancing. We are disappointed in UFC allowing this fight to go on after a failed December drug test. Our clients and the integrity of our company come before such idle discussions.
    Refund Procedure
    HRWager is going through the process of regrading the Cormier to win wagers back into every players account. For those that had such wagers in place, we encourage you to call 1-888-202-3773 or go to live chat at HRWager.AG today. We have added additional hours to the customer service staff to assist the multitudes that were affected by this.
    From customer bail outs from failed books to this latest measure, HRWager wishes to be a shining example of what customers expect from a sportsbook. We stand for integrity and will do the right thing even when athletes ignore the prudent path.
    George Dubois
    Owner of HRWager

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    Dumbest fukking thing ive ever heard.

    His test was "out of competition" which means that a test that he took closer to the fight came back clean. This is nothing but a publicity stunt. Cocaine didnt help him win the fight, and theres no reason for any refunds.

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    big props to George and HRW


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    got booted for winning there but have been paying me with no problem. HR good in my book and nice of them for doing that!

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    You guys are really looking at this the wrong way

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    Quote Originally Posted by sourtwist View Post
    You guys are really looking at this the wrong way
    please explain

    how can it be a bad thing?

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    Wish they were all like George and HRWager.

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    The reasoning given. When george stated that he was disappointed that the Ufc let jones fight, its basically showing that hes unaware of how testing works. It was a test that wasnt even supposed to test for coke, and it was out of his system and has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome. This is dangerous for future wagering also.

    Obviously the players are happy, and george is trying to do what he feels is right, even tho it makes absolutely no sense.

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    Really Cormier lost.. I could see if this was PED drug but coke.. I like George but they probably did not have much action on the fight.. Will he be refunding Lions ml since the refs blew that call.. How about all the MMA fights that have bad judging?

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    Bobotma, that is my point exactly. What about previous ped use that was disclosed after fights that actually DID affect the outcome of a fight. This is unchartered territory and will be something in the future that may bite him in the ass. People are greedy and when they look back on this they may try to use this as an example for giving out unnecessary refunds.

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    Bizarre decision, made simply for publicity.

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    funny that so many complain about a book not paying quickly or not honoring a bonus etc and even when a book does something good for the players, people still complain.

    I guess people just like complaining. People are strange.

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    Come on dwight, youre better than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sourtwist View Post
    Come on dwight, youre better than that.
    what? For whatever reason it was done it hurt no one but benefited a few bettors.

    its called a win-win.

    next

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    Its called happy now, lose customers later

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    Smart promo.

    I'd do the same at every opportunity if I owned a book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sourtwist View Post
    You guys are really looking at this the wrong way
    Dude has it right. Take it for what its worth, which is a little plug. Fella looked at the action on the loser, figures his spiffy half ass press release is worth it. Nothing more to it.

    Add bail outs to the mix. Now that would have been nice if they were offered to everyone, not hand picked.

    Yeah, it is a nice gesture, but the only purpose was to garner new business with this production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Smart promo.

    I'd do the same at every opportunity if I owned a book.
    Yep...and most will never get that....and that's OK, 8 out of 10 never cash out anyhow.

    Sourtwist is 100% correct. Betislands built the forum book model, the rest are just following their lead. To a T.

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    Damned if you do,damned if you don't.George runs a good shop

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    Hes not damned if he dont. It wouldnt have even been thought about. What the fukk are u talking about dead star?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sourtwist View Post
    Hes not damned if he dont. It wouldnt have even been thought about. What the fukk are u talking about dead star?

    Clearly he not damned,but short minded people will always come up with something stupid to say when he does a solis

    These people clearly have too much time on their hands.So he gave a few bucks back to guys who lost.Move on

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    Meant solid...No big deal

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    No biggie brother...moving on. I dont have a problem with the book other than the max bet being the amount you deposit.

    I deposted 200 and got a 400 freeplay. With 200 max bet i wasnt going to meet my rollover as quick as i would like. My original intention was to go all in on one play so i would have something to work with.

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    Nice idea

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    Ask them to increase your limit. I was in the same situation they upped it to $400 from $200. I think i spoke to some guy named David.

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    Ill give it a shot. Its the main reason i havent played there since.

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