[mewalke11]

I only play it every once in a while usually on my phone if I am bored. Anyway Ive never trusted the electronic versions on games because its obvious they use some sort of algorithm that says you have lose on a certain % of the hands. But I had never seen it so blatantly obvious until tonight.


This was the "dealers" hands for 5 deals in a row


20,21,20,21,21

Holy *****

You have got to be kidding me . And of course on most of those I had a pretty good hand. It was so freaking clear that I was "suppose" to lose those hands so it had to bring the dealers cards up but really? That freaking obvious? The odds of that happening at a table have to be more than 1,000,000 :1

Anyone else have an experience like that?

[Tony Williams]

A handful. All involve alcohol. Avoid at all costs

[mewalke11]

A handful. All involve alcohol. Avoid at all costs

Haha hope you didn't lose to much. Good advice. Was wondering if it was a fluke thing or if it has happened to others.

[dealer wins]

In Vegas I have had the dealer get 3 BJs in a row, followed by a sick 21 and 3 more 20s. It does go like that sometimes, just like you can win 8-10 hands in a row including multiple splits/doubles!!

I would find it boring if I won back 99% of my bet on every hand LOL

[mewalke11]

In Vegas I have had the dealer get 3 BJs in a row, followed by a sick 21 and 3 more 20s. It does go like that sometimes, just like you can win 8-10 hands in a row including multiple splits/doubles!!

I would find it boring if I won back 99% of my bet on every hand LOL

haha I don't think anyone would find it boring if they were wining every hand in blackjack

[elvisc]

Been doing this 20 years all over the place, seen things like losing 28 out of 30 AND seen things like winning 22 out of 25. Most books run fair % feedback from what I can tell, pretty much the same as any live casino I've been to (hundreds, honestly).

[Tony Williams]

Haha hope you didn't lose to much. Good advice. Was wondering if it was a fluke thing or if it has happened to others.

Any amount you lose in an electronic blackjack game is "too much"

[captrobey]

I only play it every once in a while usually on my phone if I am bored. Anyway Ive never trusted the electronic versions on games because its obvious they use some sort of algorithm that says you have lose on a certain % of the hands. But I had never seen it so blatantly obvious until tonight.


This was the "dealers" hands for 5 deals in a row


20,21,20,21,21

Holy *****

You have got to be kidding me . And of course on most of those I had a pretty good hand. It was so freaking clear that I was "suppose" to lose those hands so it had to bring the dealers cards up but really? That freaking obvious? The odds of that happening at a table have to be more than 1,000,000 :1

Anyone else have an experience like that?

YES !!!! I have a thread called Sportbet worst Casino out there. This is a 5Dimes Casino. Out of all the ones i play this one is the most obviously rigged. Dealer gets insane hand after insane hand. You will NEVER get the streaks the dealer gets. I complained once and they feed you BS that they are regulated. Yea Ok sure.You can have $4950 in there and go into the Casino to try to round it off to $5000 and you will lose everything .

07:49:13	Player Hand 14 5♠ 9♦ Dealer Hand 21 A♥ T♥ BlackJack	400.00	-400.00
07:49:01	Player Hand 23 5♣ 7♦ A♥ J♠ Hit, Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 12 2♥ T♣	200.00	-200.00
07:48:51	Player Hand 20 K♣ 2♣ 8♦ Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 20 6♠ 9♣ 5♥ Hit, Stand	200.00	.00
07:48:44	Player Hand 20 K♦ T♠ Dealer Hand 21 K♠ A♠ BlackJack	200.00	-200.00
07:48:36	Player Hand 18 J♣ 8♦ Stand Dealer Hand 22 5♥ K♠ 7♥ Hit, Bust	200.00	200.00
07:48:28	Player Hand 19 9♠ Q♠ Stand Dealer Hand 22 4♠ 8♦ Q♥ Hit, Bust	200.00	200.00
07:48:16	Player Hand 1 12 A♠ A♣ 200.00 -200.00 Player Hand 2 15 A♦ 4♦ Split 200.00 -200.00 Dealer Hand 17 5♥ 3♣ 9♠ Hit, Stand	400.00	-400.00
07:48:05	Player Hand 16 8♦ 8♥ Surrender Dealer Hand 16 6♠ K♠	100.00	-50.00
07:47:56	Player Hand 22 2♦ J♠ K♥ Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 15 4♥ A♥	100.00	-100.00
07:47:33	Player Hand 1 17 2♥ 4♣ 5♠ 6♣ Hit, Hit, Stand 300.00 300.00 Player Hand 2 18 2♣ 6♦ Q♥ Split, Hit, Stand 300.00 300.00 Dealer Hand 22 K♥ 2♠ J♠ Hit, Bust	600.00	600.00
07:47:24	Player Hand 14 2♥ 5♦ 7♦ Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 18 8♠ Q♣ Stand	300.00	-300.00
07:47:03	Player Hand 13 4♠ 6♥ 3♠ Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 21 4♣ Q♠ 7♥ Hit, Stand	200.00	-200.00
07:46:52	Player Hand 14 J♣ 4♠ Surrender Dealer Hand 16 5♣ A♦	200.00	-100.00
07:46:35	Player Hand 5 2♠ 3♠ Dealer Hand 21 J♦ A♥ BlackJack	100.00	-100.00
07:46:18	Player Hand 1 20 8♥ 2♦ T♦ Double 54.00 -54.00 Player Hand 2 18 8♦ K♥ Split, Stand 27.00 -27.00 Dealer Hand 21 7♣ 4♠ J♣ Hit, Stand	81.00	-81.00
07:46:13	Player Hand 18 8♠ Q♠ Dealer Hand 21 A♦ Q♣ BlackJack	27.00	-27.00
07:46:08	Player Hand 14 4♦ J♦ Dealer Hand 21 A♣ Q♣ BlackJack	27.00	-27.00

[mewalke11]

YES !!!! I have a thread called Sportbet worst Casino out there. This is a 5Dimes Casino. Out of all the ones i play this one is the most obviously rigged. Dealer gets insane hand after insane hand. You will NEVER get the streaks the dealer gets. I complained once and they feed you BS that they are regulated. Yea Ok sure.You can have $4950 in there and go into the Casino to try to round it off to $5000 and you will lose everything .

07:49:13	Player Hand 14 5♠ 9♦ Dealer Hand 21 A♥ T♥ BlackJack	400.00	-400.00
07:49:01	Player Hand 23 5♣ 7♦ A♥ J♠ Hit, Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 12 2♥ T♣	200.00	-200.00
07:48:51	Player Hand 20 K♣ 2♣ 8♦ Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 20 6♠ 9♣ 5♥ Hit, Stand	200.00	.00
07:48:44	Player Hand 20 K♦ T♠ Dealer Hand 21 K♠ A♠ BlackJack	200.00	-200.00
07:48:36	Player Hand 18 J♣ 8♦ Stand Dealer Hand 22 5♥ K♠ 7♥ Hit, Bust	200.00	200.00
07:48:28	Player Hand 19 9♠ Q♠ Stand Dealer Hand 22 4♠ 8♦ Q♥ Hit, Bust	200.00	200.00
07:48:16	Player Hand 1 12 A♠ A♣ 200.00 -200.00 Player Hand 2 15 A♦ 4♦ Split 200.00 -200.00 Dealer Hand 17 5♥ 3♣ 9♠ Hit, Stand	400.00	-400.00
07:48:05	Player Hand 16 8♦ 8♥ Surrender Dealer Hand 16 6♠ K♠	100.00	-50.00
07:47:56	Player Hand 22 2♦ J♠ K♥ Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 15 4♥ A♥	100.00	-100.00
07:47:33	Player Hand 1 17 2♥ 4♣ 5♠ 6♣ Hit, Hit, Stand 300.00 300.00 Player Hand 2 18 2♣ 6♦ Q♥ Split, Hit, Stand 300.00 300.00 Dealer Hand 22 K♥ 2♠ J♠ Hit, Bust	600.00	600.00
07:47:24	Player Hand 14 2♥ 5♦ 7♦ Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 18 8♠ Q♣ Stand	300.00	-300.00
07:47:03	Player Hand 13 4♠ 6♥ 3♠ Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 21 4♣ Q♠ 7♥ Hit, Stand	200.00	-200.00
07:46:52	Player Hand 14 J♣ 4♠ Surrender Dealer Hand 16 5♣ A♦	200.00	-100.00
07:46:35	Player Hand 5 2♠ 3♠ Dealer Hand 21 J♦ A♥ BlackJack	100.00	-100.00
07:46:18	Player Hand 1 20 8♥ 2♦ T♦ Double 54.00 -54.00 Player Hand 2 18 8♦ K♥ Split, Stand 27.00 -27.00 Dealer Hand 21 7♣ 4♠ J♣ Hit, Stand	81.00	-81.00
07:46:13	Player Hand 18 8♠ Q♠ Dealer Hand 21 A♦ Q♣ BlackJack	27.00	-27.00
07:46:08	Player Hand 14 4♦ J♦ Dealer Hand 21 A♣ Q♣ BlackJack	27.00	-27.00

Damn.

I gotta say those dealer hands look pretty familiar.

[Microphone]

Captrobey....I agree about certain BJ characteristics they have, having said that, you're not playing basic strategy either.

[BigDofBA]

Yes. Happened to me. Learned my lesson more than once.

It's a computer program. Your odds are not the same as they are in Vegas.

They can set the hold percentages and I guarantee you their hold is a lot more than the roughly 2% Vegas gets against players playing optimal strategy.

You might win like 5 bucks then the computer will clean you out.

Don't play.

[mewalke11]

In my experience if you play even basic strategy in vegas you can hold your own but the winnings come when you get on a streak. You just have to know when tot walk away....(easier said than done). I have never gotten on a streak in electronic bj...but Ive seen the computer get on a ton of them.

[mewalke11]

In my experience if you play even basic strategy in vegas you can hold your own but the winnings come when you get on a streak. You just have to know when tot walk away....(easier said than done). I have never gotten on a streak in electronic bj...but Ive seen the computer get on a ton of them.

And when they do get on a streak its with a vengeance.

[baller06]

crazy

[baller06]

Crazy

[captrobey]

Captrobey....I agree about certain BJ characteristics they have, having said that, you're not playing basic strategy either.

Huh? Did you look at the hands the dealer was getting? I had i think one hand i figured i would try something different the one i had a 14 nothing else seemed to work. And if you are referring to the times i hit and went over look at all the times the dealer had a 10 or an Ace on those hands showing.

Are you actually trying to say after i show these hands, that i lost because i did not play "Basic Strategy" even though the dealer got a 21 7 out of 17 hands and i got a 21 Zero?

[Microphone]

Huh? Did you look at the hands the dealer was getting? I had i think one hand i figured i would try something different the one i had a 14 nothing else seemed to work. And if you are referring to the times i hit and went over look at all the times the dealer had a 10 or an Ace on those hands showing.

Are you actually trying to say after i show these hands, that i lost because i did not play "Basic Strategy" even though the dealer got a 21 7 out of 17 hands and i got a 21 Zero?

Nope just saying you didn't play basic strategy. The end cards "could" come out different. I'm your side.

[Microphone]

In my experience if you play even basic strategy in vegas you can hold your own but the winnings come when you get on a streak. You just have to know when tot walk away....(easier said than done). I have never gotten on a streak in electronic bj...but Ive seen the computer get on a ton of them.

Having played a ton, that's a pretty accurate statement. The electronic streaks outnumber the ones I've been seen 25+ to 1 without exaggeration.

[relaaxx]

why take a chance on an online casino. if they want it it easy to cheat someone obviously. so what makes you think the sportsbook will not cheat you. they can if they want. not that they all do. but they can that is more than enough of a reason not to play online. stick with sports. then if you win. hope you get paid.

[captrobey]

Ok Mic just checking. I need to just really stay away from online altogether. God the amount i would have if i had stayed out. We are going on vacation to Puerto Vallarta end of month i am hoping to find a Sportbook there just to kick back have a drink and watch a game. First time there. Did that when i was in Cancun ways back and enjoyed it. I actually found a guys wallet in the mens room with a bunch of cash in it. I am an honest person though i handed it in. There was like $400 in it. Plus CCs .

[captrobey]

why take a chance on an online casino. if they want it it easy to cheat someone obviously. so what makes you think the sportsbook will not cheat you. they can if they want. not that they all do. but they can that is more than enough of a reason not to play online. stick with sports. then if you win. hope you get paid.

Yes 100% correct . I always ask myself wtf am i doing wasting my cash in the casino. I can stay out awhile them i end up caving in. A lot of times it is to round an amount off i won at Sportsbetting .

[Mikail]

Only a sucker will stake his money in an online casino. Yes they are rigged. Yes they will steal your money if you allow them to do so. Don't buy into that they are "regulated" crap. Yeah I'm regulated too. Don't be a sucker!

[captrobey]

Only a sucker will stake his money in an online casino. Yes they are rigged. Yes they will steal your money if you allow them to do so. Don't buy into that they are "regulated" crap. Yeah I'm regulated too. Don't be a sucker!

Your Regulated ??!!! Why did'nt you tell me. I will bet with you !!!

Yea they all say that . They probably if they get examined at all get a heads up and make it look like they are ok for that time.

[asdf21]

Casinoshit

[LordVodka]

The dealer almost always gets 2 blackjacks in a row. What are the odds of that happening over and over and over?

[dealer wins]

The dealer almost always gets 2 blackjacks in a row. What are the odds of that happening over and over and over?

Getting 2 blackjacks in a row "over and over" means getting 4-6-8 blackjacks in a row?

Or do you mean when the dealer gets a BJ he gets another one next hand, in which case its about 1 in 20 times.

You need a good 5000 hand records before you can even start to accuse a casino of rigging the game. Short term wild streaks occur in both the player and casino's direction.

[LordVodka]

Yep. Dealer gets 21 then the following hand is another BJ or natural 21.

[sourtwist]

A handful. All involve alcohol. Avoid at all costs

ha, youre prob the tony Williams who runs dimes

[captrobey]

Yep. Dealer gets 21 then the following hand is another BJ or natural 21.

What are the odds out of say 100 sessions that i have played that out of them all the dealer always gets 20-21 on a 4-1 ratio 99 of those 100 times. Only once have i ever gotten more then the dealer only once.

[mewalke11]

I have seen the dealer start with a 6 or 5 and then built to 21.....many times.

[Courtesywipe]

What are the odds out of say 100 sessions that i have played that out of them all the dealer always gets 20-21 on a 4-1 ratio 99 of those 100 times. Only once have i ever gotten more then the dealer only once.

And we continue to play year after year.....myself included. I know ALL casinos are rigged online but I always give to temptation during sport downtimes like 0400 in the morning. The only online casinos that I have any luck in is 5d and gtbets and I am still way down overall. I did hit Royal Flushes on both of these sites in the past but gtbets seems to be a little better in BJ.

[captrobey]

And we continue to play year after year.....myself included. I know ALL casinos are rigged online but I always give to temptation during sport downtimes like 0400 in the morning. The only online casinos that I have any luck in is 5d and gtbets and I am still way down overall. I did hit Royal Flushes on both of these sites in the past but gtbets seems to be a little better in BJ.

Yes we do continue don't we my friend. I get mad at myself all the time for that. Although i can pull myself away for awhile .I do not know how many times i have lost large amounts after winning a great amount in the Sports part of it. I have won at Justbet and Youwager once each for $10000 . But by FAR the biggest amounts were taken out of Rebatewager . Twice for $15000 and a bunch for $10000 and a couple $5000 . With no casino there it lets me just focus on the sportsbetting. You are right though i said this somewhere else the only casno i have won a little at was GTbets . But it is either it destroys you or lets you have a normal session for a bit.

[mewalke11]

Im convinced the casinos are only there to try and pry back some of the money won off the games.

[captrobey]

Im convinced the casinos are only there to try and pry back some of the money won off the games.

You could be right Batman. But the Joker says they are regulated and safe to use. I would ask Wonder Woman but she is just sitting in the corner crying because it is that time of the month again. She keeps saying something about Frito's i think because she likes the salt .

[thestrategist]

Hollywood sportsbook is fair plus they have scratch off cards for people who are true degens and cant get them at the convenience store.