[jjgold]

Legions post your top books regardless

It's your opinion and people might be interested

[Legions36]

Spot On. These guys in here are so desperate to win the money back that they have dropped (and ALL OF THEM are losers in the long run) that the will fall for any scam that looks attractive to them. These losers have no colue until they get scammed. All of this talk about how much they have won is just B.S. Show me the money? They can't because they do not have it. I will settle for going to Vegas and having my winnings handed to me or placed in my banking accounts in legitimate banks. Just let these fools go on and on. Remember there is one born every minute, and sites like this seem to collect them.

I guess we have to agree with u, but then again u care to explain why I haven't had to work a normal job in 5years? Sports and poker for me sir......Let me also note I couldn't have done it without SBR, u haven't seemed to learn anything here.

[Legions36]

I go by this system of books-it's not mine it's from a moderator that looks into bitcoin books and rates them.
"A" rated books
SBObitcoin (top rated book)
Anonibet

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports
BitBook
Casinobitcoin
Cloudbet
NitrogenSports

"C" rated books
Bitbm
CoinBet
DirectBet

"D" rated books
Betcoinlive
BTCSportsbet
BTCSportsmatch
Jetwin

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
Bitsaloon
StakeBTC

Right now for me the best decision i made was to not have money funded in bitcoin books that use actual bitcoins because of the mess the past few months, so i use the books that convert the money to there own system or cash. I use this ratings the same way i use SBR's ratings and it works fine for me and controls the risk factor for me. For D books i deposit max $500 and bet $100 a game thats it. More as u go up but i still dont go as crazy as i do with SBR's A rated books, except for SBObitcoin which its safe to say u can have any amount since it has to do with Pinnacle, SBObet.
Some of these places offer bonuses to if u want them.

[Legions36]

Betowi and SBO online is worth the 100% bonus for $500 to me and they have bitcoin.

[jjgold]

Legions great post

SBO Bitcoin?

Is it sbobet?

[Legions36]

Legions great post

SBO Bitcoin?

Is it sbobet?

Yes. What happened is they are a broker owned by SBObet that accepts bitcoin and transfers it to $, then u can have the option to use 3 books, Pinnacle, SBObet and IBCbet. In order to access Pinnacle and IBCbet u need a vpn which they tell u to do, then when u want to get paid u deal with the broker and they convert it back to Bitcoin. I love life now that i have these books available to me being in the U.S. , bring on the other big established books to bitcoin im all for it.

[jjgold]

Here is the big tricky part getting a bit coin account that is legit and buying bit coin

I know it sounds easy but it's not

There is no way SBO is going to get involved with Americans.. It cannot be US-based

Something not right here

[jjgold]

Here is from chat sbobitcoin

In sbobet, here are the restricted countries: Afghanistan, American Samoa, Belgium, France, French Guiana, French Polynesia, French Southern Territories, Germany, Greece, Guadeloupe, Guam, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Libya, Martinique, Mayotte, Nigeria, Northern Mariana Islands, North Korea, Philippines, Puerto Rico, Reunion, Somalia, St Pierre et Miquelon, Sudan, Taiwan, Turkey, United States Minor Outlying Islands, United States of America and US Virgin Island.

In Ibcbet, based on our further researches, Philippines only is the country restricted.

In Pinnacle, American Samoa, France, French Guiana, French Polynesia, French Southern Territories, Guadeloupe, Guam, Italy, Martinique, Mayotte, Netherlands, New Caledonia, Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, Reunion, Saint Bartelemey, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Spain, Turkey, United States, Virgin Islands, U.S., Wallis and Futuna

[retard]

Using bitcoins to gamble at nitrogen and bitbook.biz is 0 risk right after the game you withdraw the bitcoins back to your wallet with instant withdraws.

[ACoochy]

Anyone who made money from BCs did so because they jumped in early investing in the worth of the actual coin and good on them. But that's very different to sports betting with them. People need to figure out if their situations are so shithouse they can't bet with a bricks and mortar shop ie have committed a charge back, on the run from the popo, mama cut off their credit c's.... That'd be the only reasons to gamble there.

Your better than this

Im sure you've seen my situation at the other place.

There's a primary reason i live in a million dollar + home with pool, balcony etc...

Needless to say there's enough people in the world who arent cool with dragging around a multi trillion dollar debt to ensure that this will work longterm (without the trillions of dollars debt attached) and i encourage all hackers etc to try and compromise bitcoins integrity.

Will only make it stronger in the longterm

[ACoochy]

StakeBTC closed in the middle of the night after scamming a player. Those are the facts. A previous bitcoin sportsbook stole $6700 from a player. As SBR does not rate and review Bitcoin sportsbooks, you would hear more of the player complaints than an in-depth review or position on Bitcoin; we don't seek out these complaints, players come to us with them and want their stories heard by others and help where possible. Use the information to make a decision or not make a decision on where or how you approach betting with Bitcoin shops --- at the end of the day, the information is yours to accept or discard.

Furthermore, no one here is opposed to Bitcoin. If you don't feel the risks associated with Bitcoin sportsbooks outweigh those that come with playing at a sportsbook like a Bet365 or Pinnacle, good for you and we hope it works out well. That's all we're saying, JJGold sideshow aside.

Thats still probably not even 10% of what you guys ran off with re BI scandal...

What a shame you couldnt have been as indepth and comprehensive as you are here...

Now run along and keep supporting the currency weighed down by trillions in debt

[jjgold]

Hey kid I was not here when BI crashed..was gone 8 months
Do your homework

Thats still probably not even 10% of what you guys ran off with re BI scandal...

What a shame you couldnt have been as indepth and comprehensive as you are here...

Now run along and keep supporting the currency weighed down by trillions in debt

[ACoochy]

Hey kid I was not here when BI crashed..was gone 8 months
Do your homework

Oh dont worry pal, i was around and wouldnt be sprouting my mouth off if i didnt see it unfild from my own eyes...

JJ, some of us only want whats best for 100% of the people, not the top 10% and bitcoin is the vehicle we drive to 'walk the walk' as it were.

My national currency has dropped over 20% over past few months yet we dont talk about how the sky is falling...

Point is its all relevent. Just dont dismiss btc without indepthly researching both its integrity and support base because its much stronger than you think...

[jjgold]

Coochy bitcoin has gotten destroyed since August

Without regulation its in trouble, so many scandals popping up daily

I was looking today at exchanges to buy and its so easy to get fukked, most sellers want cash which is ok but he might not deliver on the coin and nothing you can do

I hope it settles down, right now its way too volatile

Maybe it will be great down the road, I will keep an open mind

[retard]

Coochy bitcoin has gotten destroyed since August

Without regulation its in trouble, so many scandals popping up daily

I was looking today at exchanges to buy and its so easy to get fukked, most sellers want cash which is ok but he might not deliver on the coin and nothing you can do

I hope it settles down, right now its way too volatile

Maybe it will be great down the road, I will keep an open mind

You can buy bitcoins with paypal http://virrwox.com/
If they don't give you the bitcoins you can dispute the payment with paypal and even your bank. This website has been up for years it wont happen.

Paypal is always in favor with the buyer. Even if paypal doesn't refund you the money you can still dispute it with your bank or CC.

[jjgold]

Thanks guy. will check out

Some guys make good arguments on other side of this

Good work

You can buy bitcoins with paypal http://virrwox.com/
If they don't give you the bitcoins you can dispute the payment with paypal and even your bank. This website has been up for years it wont happen.

Paypal is always in favor with the buyer. Even if paypal doesn't refund you the money you can still dispute it with your bank or CC.

[Hareeba!]

Paypal is always in favor with the buyer.

I dispute that!

I purchased a service through Paypal last year and then the provider found it impossible to continue supply after 2 (unsatisfactory) weeks and admitted that he couldn't but refused to provide a refund.

I referred the dispute to Paypal and sought a refund. It was really an "open and shut" case in all logic.

But Paypal sided with the merchant!

Never again Paypal for me.

[Legions36]

Here is the big tricky part getting a bit coin account that is legit and buying bit coin

I know it sounds easy but it's not

There is no way SBO is going to get involved with Americans.. It cannot be US-based

Something not right here

That's why u use sbobitcoin too deal with. They are the ones who fund sbobitcoin and pinnacle, they also get your $. This covers both sides from U.S. Interference, they even create the accounts for u, u also need a VPN to access these sites. All these places know what's going on, that's why they created sbobitcoin to stop any issues. That's what came from them, I was surprised also and asked all the questions in depth when I signed up, they are open to everyone this way.

[Legions36]

You can buy bitcoins with paypal http://virrwox.com/
If they don't give you the bitcoins you can dispute the payment with paypal and even your bank. This website has been up for years it wont happen.

Paypal is always in favor with the buyer. Even if paypal doesn't refund you the money you can still dispute it with your bank or CC.

From what I read now PayPal will close any accounts that are found to deal with bit coins. Don't do it!!! They are scared bitcoin is going to put them out of business.

[Scooter]

I dispute that!

I purchased a service through Paypal last year and then the provider found it impossible to continue supply after 2 (unsatisfactory) weeks and admitted that he couldn't but refused to provide a refund.

I referred the dispute to Paypal and sought a refund. It was really an "open and shut" case in all logic.

But Paypal sided with the merchant!

Never again Paypal for me.

Paypal will NOT get involved in any dispute involving an internet business which is not selling a tangible product which will be physically received.

If one purchases a software download/app/any sort of service that does not involve shipping an object - there could be a website stating "100% GUARANTEED REFUND IF NOT SATISFIED" and Paypal will do nothing.

[jjgold]

Bitcoin without regulation will fail

Way too many scams..I can sell it so someone using ** and can fuk the buyer and he cannot do anything

That has to change

Date	Last	Open	High	Low	Change %
Feb 24, 2014	173.99	310.00	316.79	131.72	-45.11%
Feb 23, 2014	316.97	253.00	348.87	220.10	25.18%
Feb 22, 2014	253.20	110.43	284.00	96.63	129.29%
Feb 21, 2014	110.43	111.70	160.00	91.50	-1.31%
Feb 20, 2014	111.90	261.38	269.97	110.00	-57.19%
Feb 19, 2014	261.41	293.80	308.13	258.00	-11.02%
Feb 18, 2014	293.80	280.00	370.00	248.15	4.93%
Feb 17, 2014	280.00	300.00	410.96	263.10	-7.28%
Feb 16, 2014	301.99	371.00	540.00	220.29	-18.60%
Feb 15, 2014	371.00	427.52	447.88	310.11	-13.22%
Feb 14, 2014	427.52	451.10	499.89	302.00	-5.24%
Feb 13, 2014	451.17	539.00	549.00	451.10	-16.29%
Feb 12, 2014	539.00	578.76	578.88	512.54	-6.75%
Feb 11, 2014	578.00	570.00	609.49	550.00	1.40%
Feb 10, 2014	570.00	659.50	700.00	510.00	-13.57%
Feb 09, 2014	659.50	648.71	691.91	622.42	1.66%
Feb 08, 2014	648.71	684.78	717.45	632.50	-5.80%
Feb 07, 2014	688.64	829.00	833.14	654.12	-16.93%
Feb 06, 2014	829.00	893.00	909.00	805.10	-8.38%
Feb 05, 2014	904.80	926.98	939.00	890.50	-2.39%
Feb 04, 2014	926.98	932.05	949.46	901.03	-0.56%
Feb 03, 2014	932.23	954.00	960.00	932.23	-2.28%
Feb 02, 2014	954.00	940.60	960.00	935.00	1.42%
Feb 01, 2014	940.60	939.28	969.40	928.00	0.14%
Jan 31, 2014	939.28	942.10	955.18	925.00	-0.30%
Jan 30, 2014	942.10	926.13	953.98	910.11	1.72%
Jan 29, 2014	926.13	937.03	951.00	920.00	-1.16%
Jan 28, 2014	937.02	944.00	973.00	912.90	-0.83%
Jan 27, 2014	944.89	1007.09	1022.00	937.79	-6.18%
Jan 26, 2014	1007.09	961.24	1035.86	950.73	3.24%
Jan 25, 2014	975.49	917.06	978.60	916.02	0.00%

Highest: 1035.86

Lowest: 91.50

Difference: 944.36

Average: 619.25

Change %: -82.1

[Hareeba!]

Paypal will NOT get involved in any dispute involving an internet business which is not selling a tangible product which will be physically received.

If one purchases a software download/app/any sort of service that does not involve shipping an object - there could be a website stating "100% GUARANTEED REFUND IF NOT SATISFIED" and Paypal will do nothing.

That indeed fits my experience.
The trader in fact admitted that he was unable to provide the service I'd paid for for the balance of my subscription period.
Paypal let me down badly.

[Hareeba!]

Bitcoin without regulation will fail

how can it possibly be "regulated"?

by whom?

[ACoochy]

Bitcoin without regulation will fail

Way too many scams..I can sell it so someone using ** and can fuk the buyer and he cannot do anything

That has to change

Date	Last	Open	High	Low	Change %
Feb 24, 2014	173.99	310.00	316.79	131.72	-45.11%
Feb 23, 2014	316.97	253.00	348.87	220.10	25.18%
Feb 22, 2014	253.20	110.43	284.00	96.63	129.29%
Feb 21, 2014	110.43	111.70	160.00	91.50	-1.31%
Feb 20, 2014	111.90	261.38	269.97	110.00	-57.19%
Feb 19, 2014	261.41	293.80	308.13	258.00	-11.02%
Feb 18, 2014	293.80	280.00	370.00	248.15	4.93%
Feb 17, 2014	280.00	300.00	410.96	263.10	-7.28%
Feb 16, 2014	301.99	371.00	540.00	220.29	-18.60%
Feb 15, 2014	371.00	427.52	447.88	310.11	-13.22%
Feb 14, 2014	427.52	451.10	499.89	302.00	-5.24%
Feb 13, 2014	451.17	539.00	549.00	451.10	-16.29%
Feb 12, 2014	539.00	578.76	578.88	512.54	-6.75%
Feb 11, 2014	578.00	570.00	609.49	550.00	1.40%
Feb 10, 2014	570.00	659.50	700.00	510.00	-13.57%
Feb 09, 2014	659.50	648.71	691.91	622.42	1.66%
Feb 08, 2014	648.71	684.78	717.45	632.50	-5.80%
Feb 07, 2014	688.64	829.00	833.14	654.12	-16.93%
Feb 06, 2014	829.00	893.00	909.00	805.10	-8.38%
Feb 05, 2014	904.80	926.98	939.00	890.50	-2.39%
Feb 04, 2014	926.98	932.05	949.46	901.03	-0.56%
Feb 03, 2014	932.23	954.00	960.00	932.23	-2.28%
Feb 02, 2014	954.00	940.60	960.00	935.00	1.42%
Feb 01, 2014	940.60	939.28	969.40	928.00	0.14%
Jan 31, 2014	939.28	942.10	955.18	925.00	-0.30%
Jan 30, 2014	942.10	926.13	953.98	910.11	1.72%
Jan 29, 2014	926.13	937.03	951.00	920.00	-1.16%
Jan 28, 2014	937.02	944.00	973.00	912.90	-0.83%
Jan 27, 2014	944.89	1007.09	1022.00	937.79	-6.18%
Jan 26, 2014	1007.09	961.24	1035.86	950.73	3.24%
Jan 25, 2014	975.49	917.06	978.60	916.02	0.00%

Highest: 1035.86

Lowest: 91.50

Difference: 944.36

Average: 619.25

Change %: -82.1

Guy quotes gox

Cant make this shite up...

[Legions36]

Gox won't come out my mouth ever. The reason they quote them is because they don't know, Gox was done when the Feds raided them. Man why not try to find out info before just finding anything to bring up, I will gladly tell u stuff that I have found out or learned.

[lecubs28]

jj this is getting embarrassing, just stop

[ACoochy]

http://siliconangle.com/blog/2014/02...in-foundation/

Hope this goes some way in healing (or totally severing) the ties between the two...

[jjgold]

Who regulates the USD???

Federal Reserve

Once there are rules set in place for Bitcoin and fed regulated more people will use it

Its a haven for sharp scammers now..go to any bitcoin exchange, its very very confusing with little regulation and you better be sharp with currencies and math not to get ripped off

[MeatWad]

Why take the risk with so any other options available? Guys endorsing locals and brick and mortars as fool proof obviously haven't spent much time winning significantly against either. But at the end of the day true professionals can secure safe outs and beat the books. But this takes time and effort something 95%+ of gamblers lack.

[Legions36]

Why take the risk with so any other options available? Guys endorsing locals and brick and mortars as fool proof obviously haven't spent much time winning significantly against either. But at the end of the day true professionals can secure safe outs and beat the books. But this takes time and effort something 95%+ of gamblers lack.

Because people like myself like to spread it out in pieces across the board and not put everything in one basket, saves u if something goes wrong and allows u to recover.

[MeatWad]

Because people like myself like to spread it out in pieces across the board and not put everything in one basket, saves u if something goes wrong and allows u to recover.

Makes sense to buffer against potential losses. But I am assuming you also still live in the US? If you play online poker especially, that country is pure hell for gamblers. All the rich greedy fuks wanting their cut or they outlaw it.

[ACoochy]

Looks like Mt.Gox finally did what most of us had hoped and went AWOL...

Wow...Sure feel sorry for anyone who had their money tied up their but the signs were around a LONG time ago...

[MeatWad]

As an example, suppose you are a no US gambler, how would bitcoin improve this person's operation? I know the answer is probably obvious, but for instance if a guy had access to multiple accounts at lots of books across several physical locals( and IP's), none in his name, how would bitcoin improve his/her roi and profits?

Maybe it is being too cautious, not trusting the new technology, but how much more could a person with good access to all top online books make by using bitcoin? Seems like an unneccesary risk for someone established with good contacts and a decisive edge even at Pinnacle??

[Legions36]

As an example, suppose you are a no US gambler, how would bitcoin improve this person's operation? I know the answer is probably obvious, but for instance if a guy had access to multiple accounts at lots of books across several physical locals( and IP's), none in his name, how would bitcoin improve his/her roi and profits?

Maybe it is being too cautious, not trusting the new technology, but how much more could a person with good access to all top online books make by using bitcoin? Seems like an unneccesary risk for someone established with good contacts and a decisive edge even at Pinnacle??

Dude if u only knew what u could do or get with bit coins u would never even question it, I feel free at the moment.

[MeatWad]

I know about silkroad and other bitcoin related operations. But just not seeing how it would vastly improve someone who left the states already to improve their gambling access. I may be short sighted, but I just can't figure out how the EV gain (if any?) justifies the risk.