[down-to-earth]

To those of you who play blackjack at the 5 Dimes Live Dealer Casino, at the blackjack game called "early payout", watch the dealer's left hand (your right and their left)... The dealer is going to put that hand under the table at some point during the game and you can tell that it's to hit a button... They try to be real sneaky about it but, if you watch real good you will catch it... Especially a lady dealer named Jey and a man dealer named Alvaro...It's easier to catch her doing than him... He likes to especially do it right when he sits down and he acts like he's adjusting his chair by rocking it side to side...I've seen 3 other dealer's put that left hand under the table but I don't remember their names...That early payout blackjack game is rigged for sure... And it's the only blackjack game that I've ever seen that the dealer only gives themself a second card after all the players have either stood or bust out...Also, it only allows you to get one card when you have an eleven whether you choose to double down or not...And it won't let you split all pairs at any given time...And more often than not, whenever their is an issue about a hand on their part, the pitboss is going to tell you some b.s. and say that there was no issue on their part and that it's a computer/internet malfunction on your end... You have to go through a long dialogue to get them to correct their errors...Now remember what I said about watching the left hand...After you see the dealer do it for yourself, then watch how many 20's,21's,and blackjacks they catch... And watch how many 14.s,15.s and 16.s are dealt out...

[NavsPicks]

If there's a button.. Why wud they put it under the table and not somewhere were the player can't see it.. I'm sure 5dimes can afford 2 workers to rig it. Easier to give a hand motion signalling someone to press the button than putting ur hand under the table. But surely a billion dollar industry didn't think of this.. Idiot you lost so shutup

[bostonboss]

lol they do play around under the table/on top of the shoe and with the mouse

[PD77]

And what exactly does the button do?

[NavsPicks]

The button switches the numbers on the cards. :/

[jjgold]

I doubt it, its called gambling paranoia. I would think though UK casinos are more regulated than CR ones.

[Brooklyn Dick]

The dealer may be peeking at the top card when he does it and then can keep it for himself by dealing seconds if it helps him.

[queensryche]

Wouldn't play it.

[stefan084]

I play at www.massivevigcasino.net and have some questions also. I thought in blackjack you are supposed to get payed 1-1 if you beat the dealer but I only get 1/2 of my bet,plus my original wager. It gets better if I hit a blackjack because they pay me 3/4 of my bet back. So for instance 1. I bet 10 and lose = -10
2. I bet 10 and win = +5
3. I bet 10 and get Black Jack =+7.50
--so far I like the place but I've lost around $4000 in 2 days, I'm hoping my luck will get better but it just seems like an uphill battle, everyone there seems really nice though

[captrobey]

I play at www.massivevigcasino.net and have some questions also. I thought in blackjack you are supposed to get payed 1-1 if you beat the dealer but I only get 1/2 of my bet,plus my original wager. It gets better if I hit a blackjack because they pay me 3/4 of my bet back. So for instance 1. I bet 10 and lose = -10
2. I bet 10 and win = +5
3. I bet 10 and get Black Jack =+7.50
--so far I like the place but I've lost around $4000 in 2 days, I'm hoping my luck will get better but it just seems like an uphill battle, everyone there seems really nice though

It is supposed to be even money on beating the dealer. Getting Half your bet is not right did you ask them about it?

[captrobey]

To those of you who play blackjack at the 5 Dimes Live Dealer Casino, at the blackjack game called "early payout", watch the dealer's left hand (your right and their left)... The dealer is going to put that hand under the table at some point during the game and you can tell that it's to hit a button... They try to be real sneaky about it but, if you watch real good you will catch it... Especially a lady dealer named Jey and a man dealer named Alvaro...It's easier to catch her doing than him... He likes to especially do it right when he sits down and he acts like he's adjusting his chair by rocking it side to side...I've seen 3 other dealer's put that left hand under the table but I don't remember their names...That early payout blackjack game is rigged for sure... And it's the only blackjack game that I've ever seen that the dealer only gives themself a second card after all the players have either stood or bust out...Also, it only allows you to get one card when you have an eleven whether you choose to double down or not...And it won't let you split all pairs at any given time...And more often than not, whenever their is an issue about a hand on their part, the pitboss is going to tell you some b.s. and say that there was no issue on their part and that it's a computer/internet malfunction on your end... You have to go through a long dialogue to get them to correct their errors...Now remember what I said about watching the left hand...After you see the dealer do it for yourself, then watch how many 20's,21's,and blackjacks they catch... And watch how many 14.s,15.s and 16.s are dealt out...

I will have to watch that next time i go in live for Sportbet. It is a 5Dimes Company so many the same dealers are there . I can see how they can rig Live though. Overall though i think you do better Live then the straight Virtual Casino.

I was playing at Betmania live. I was actually doing good probably better then any other casino i have played live. But the cards still were doing weird things. Once there was a card on the dealers side that i do not think anyone saw. It did not count for anything but it was there farther to the right of the dealer. Another time i saw the down card of the dealer when i should not have. A few times the cards the dealer would give me would stay on the table AFTER the hand was done. So when the new cards were dealt the Old ones were still there. So i had all these cards all over the table in front of me. But on the other little picture of the dealer on the top of the screen it looked normal. I was still winning but it was still weird.

[PD77]

It is supposed to be even money on beating the dealer. Getting Half your bet is not right did you ask them about it?

Reread the name of the casino he is playing at.

[captrobey]

Reread the name of the casino he is playing at.

Oh lol my bad maybe that is a good deal for that Casino then.

[Redondo]

I think live dealer is shady. I think their is some tricks involved. I'd rather just take a shot at virtual software.

[down-to-earth]

If there's a button.. Why wud they put it under the table and not somewhere were the player can't see it.. I'm sure 5dimes can afford 2 workers to rig it. Easier to give a hand motion signalling someone to press the button than putting ur hand under the table. But surely a billion dollar industry didn't think of this.. Idiot you lost so shutup

Whose side are you on, 5 Dimes??? First of all, whether I won or lost isn't the issue... The issue is about this mega money sportsbook doing some shady business at the card table...And you are way out of line calling me an idiot... On what basis? For trying to help people stay alert to a sportsbook's dirty tactics??? Watch the Live Dealer Early Payout game for yourself... No, better yet, play it with your money and watch the dealer's left hand like I said before...You will see for yourself that I'm right...it amazes me how many people just like you get on this site and call people out of their name and try to down people for doing something good and for telling the truth... Seems like you took offense to what I said about 5 Dimes...You must be one of those "brown-nosers" that I spoke of in another post... Or maybe you actually work for 5 Dimes, but either way, right is right and wrong is wrong...And I see for myself what the dealer is doing...And the button that I'm talking about isn't in plain view...It appears to be down near the dealer's waist, out of view... Just check it out for yourself... Stay for at least 4 dealers..And by all means refrain from the name-calling and being a "computer-tough-guy"...Not necessary...If you are a real average Joe like most of us on this site, the objective is to share information and help each other to make good decisions...Not get on here and see who can be the toughest from behind a computer screen...How tough is that?So, if you ain't workin'with or for the sportsbooks, let's all help each other and get some money...Y'all with me?

[Bandito97]

Just logged in for a quick 25 hands of BJ. Lost 19 of them, including first 9 in a row. Usual results. Live or virtual, all rigged scams.

[down-to-earth]

I think live dealer is shady. I think their is some tricks involved. I'd rather just take a shot at virtual software.

No Redondo, not a good career move... The virtual blackjack is way worse than the Live Dealer... Don't do it...You will lose way more than you win...If you must play blackjack, always do it with a live dealer... And don't be greedy... You have to know when to quit... When you hit a nice little quick lick, take it and run... For example if you started playing with $100 and you get it up to $500, take it, don't keep playing trying to turn it into $5,000 because you might lose it all

[down-to-earth]

Just logged in for a quick 25 hands of BJ. Lost 19 of them, including first 9 in a row. Usual results. Live or virtual, all rigged scams.

What site were you playing and was it live or virtual?

[rolltideroll0]

OK can we get serious on this topic. Is it rigged or not? I've seen 20 get defeated by a dealer 21 numerous times. But i have also seen guys win like $1500-$2000 on single hand in the higher limit table. One guy in particular, his name is "hameed". Is he a shill? Also, why are the girls at the other tables just shuffling the cards? I am personally up $700 lifetime in the live blackjack so I am conflicted. But the feel of the game is much different than in a real casino. Just seems harder to win and more dependent on luck than actual skill.

[down-to-earth]

lol they do play around under the table/on top of the shoe and with the mouse

Bostonboss, I've seen your name in the 5 Dimes live dealer game and I've played with you before although I play there under a different name...But, yeah, you're right, they do touch that shoe when it's not necessary...When you play there again, watch for the lady dealer named "Jey" and the dude named "Alvaro"...

[down-to-earth]

OK can we get serious on this topic. Is it rigged or not? I've seen 20 get defeated by a dealer 21 numerous times. But i have also seen guys win like $1500-$2000 on single hand in the higher limit table. One guy in particular, his name is "hameed". Is he a shill? Also, why are the girls at the other tables just shuffling the cards? I am personally up $700 lifetime in the live blackjack so I am conflicted. But the feel of the game is much different than in a real casino. Just seems harder to win and more dependent on luck than actual skill.

Ok, here's my take specifically about the 5 dimes live dealer "early payout" game... Yes, it is rigged... But,you can still win some hands...Even though it's rigged, it's still better than the virtual game...Yeah, that does happen alot, the dealer catching 21 or blackjack when a player has a tight 20...As far as the guys winning that much on a single hand,I haven't seen it but,I hope they were smart enough to take that money and jet...I don't know what a shill is...I don't know why the girls at the other tables are just shuffling the cards...I haven't gotten that far yet, I'm still trying to figure out what that button does that the dealer keeps sneakily hitting...Yes, it does feel different and it is harder to win than in a real casino but, it can be done with smart decisions and knowing when to get the hell on and not chase and end up losing it all...And, it's a combination of the two...Some luck and some skill

[PD77]

Does 5dimes actually operate the live tables or is it contracted out. For some reason, I was under the impression a third party handled the live games for 5D and they split the profits.

[rolltideroll0]

it is a 3rd party but it is still operated in Costa Rica. A shill is someone working for the casino just put there to make it look like people can win big money. I swear I have seen this dude "hameed" playing @$500-$2000/ hand. He doesnt win them all but i have counted in 1 session where he would be up net $12,000 in about 40 minutes. I also wonder about these random screen names that pop in like "LCB2389402" ... I think these might be casino workers designed to mess up the card count. The way that I have made money is by deviating from basic strategy, bringing in my whole roll like I am about to put it all in play...and walking out +/- $200 limit.

[captrobey]

Ok, here's my take specifically about the 5 dimes live dealer "early payout" game... Yes, it is rigged... But,you can still win some hands...Even though it's rigged, it's still better than the virtual game...Yeah, that does happen alot, the dealer catching 21 or blackjack when a player has a tight 20...As far as the guys winning that much on a single hand,I haven't seen it but,I hope they were smart enough to take that money and jet...I don't know what a shill is...I don't know why the girls at the other tables are just shuffling the cards...I haven't gotten that far yet, I'm still trying to figure out what that button does that the dealer keeps sneakily hitting...Yes, it does feel different and it is harder to win than in a real casino but, it can be done with smart decisions and knowing when to get the hell on and not chase and end up losing it all...And, it's a combination of the two...Some luck and some skill

I know when i go in to play at Sportbet.com there is almost always a guy in there LBC or something like that. Found it weird he was in there every time i went in. Thought maybe he was a plant and would win a good amount to make it look like there was someone winning at the table.
I do not think it is a button under the table . I think it is a family of Midgets and they are feeding them crackers . Have you ever seen a Midget in a normal home? No. That is because everyone knows they live under gaming tables.

[eberetta1]

To those of you who play blackjack at the 5 Dimes Live Dealer Casino, at the blackjack game called "early payout", watch the dealer's left hand (your right and their left)... The dealer is going to put that hand under the table at some point during the game and you can tell that it's to hit a button...

Next update, I have been told they will be moving the button so as to allow it to be operated by foot to not cause as much of a distraction. Keep sending in suggestions, about their live poker, so they can continue to provide a better experience.

[captrobey]

it is a 3rd party but it is still operated in Costa Rica. A shill is someone working for the casino just put there to make it look like people can win big money. I swear I have seen this dude "hameed" playing @$500-$2000/ hand. He doesnt win them all but i have counted in 1 session where he would be up net $12,000 in about 40 minutes. I also wonder about these random screen names that pop in like "LCB2389402" ... I think these might be casino workers designed to mess up the card count. The way that I have made money is by deviating from basic strategy, bringing in my whole roll like I am about to put it all in play...and walking out +/- $200 limit.

I just submitted my post and read yours. Funny you mentioned who i was possibly thinking of. I could not remember the exact name so i said LBC But i think it is who you mentioned LCB. This makes me even more think this guy is a shill .Especially when more then one person notices the same guy.

[rolltideroll0]

I just submitted my post and read yours. Funny you mentioned who i was possibly thinking of. I could not remember the exact name so i said LBC But i think it is who you mentioned LCB. This makes me even more think this guy is a shill .Especially when more then one person notices the same guy.

Yeah that is a big coincidence. I've done alright but only because i hit and run. Would be nice to figure out exactly how/how much it is rigged. I am up about $300 at the "Alessandra" table it is just me and 1 other dude.... Been killing it. But i am logging off... gotta take the money and run

[ck7]

The truth is if we are do degenerate and stupid to play an online goddamn casino then we deserve to be gaped.

[rolltideroll0]

It definitely is a degenerate thing to do…but if you just lost a bet in the sports book it is always nice to get that money refunded @ the blackjack table. I think live is the only place where u have some chance to win ….. I would never play the computer version. If they are going to fukk u over…at least u can see it w/ ur own eyes …lol

[ck7]

It definitely is a degenerate thing to do…but if you just lost a bet in the sports book it is always nice to get that money refunded @ the blackjack table. I think live is the only place where u have some chance to win ….. I would never play the computer version. If they are going to fukk u over…at least u can see it w/ ur own eyes …lol

[down-to-earth]

Does 5dimes actually operate the live tables or is it contracted out. For some reason, I was under the impression a third party handled the live games for 5D and they split the profits.

The 5 Dimes Live Dealer is a third party hookup... But regardless of that fact,best believe that 5 Dimes knows that the third party is cheating...

[down-to-earth]

it is a 3rd party but it is still operated in Costa Rica. A shill is someone working for the casino just put there to make it look like people can win big money. I swear I have seen this dude "hameed" playing @$500-$2000/ hand. He doesnt win them all but i have counted in 1 session where he would be up net $12,000 in about 40 minutes. I also wonder about these random screen names that pop in like "LCB2389402" ... I think these might be casino workers designed to mess up the card count. The way that I have made money is by deviating from basic strategy, bringing in my whole roll like I am about to put it all in play...and walking out +/- $200 limit.

Ok now that you've told me what a shill is, I'm pretty sure that this guy that kept tipping the live blackjack dealer $100 had to have been one...I don't care how good some of those women look, I'm not tipping no $100

[killawookie]

The company is call VegasLive .. many sites use them. They had Early Payout BJ a few years ago and you could BANK some easy dough. 5Dimes took it away and now offer a much, MUCH lessened payout version. If you read the rules for Early Payout they do explain their specific rules for that game... it's not a scam. What it is, is a high HOUSE EDGE by breaking any kind of basic strategy you may try to use to even the odds. It's really a buyers beware situation but they do state it in their rules

[captrobey]

Ok now that you've told me what a shill is, I'm pretty sure that this guy that kept tipping the live blackjack dealer $100 had to have been one...I don't care how good some of those women look, I'm not tipping no $100

Wowee $100 tips no way unless its a shill and it really was not his cash or the guy was drunk off his ass.

[horja1]

I play at www.massivevigcasino.net and have some questions also. I thought in blackjack you are supposed to get payed 1-1 if you beat the dealer but I only get 1/2 of my bet,plus my original wager. It gets better if I hit a blackjack because they pay me 3/4 of my bet back. So for instance 1. I bet 10 and lose = -10
2. I bet 10 and win = +5
3. I bet 10 and get Black Jack =+7.50
--so far I like the place but I've lost around $4000 in 2 days, I'm hoping my luck will get better but it just seems like an uphill battle, everyone there seems really nice though

you are joking, right?