[captrobey]

I am so busy workwise right now but i am so pissed that i want to get this out there. Maybe Betmania will do the right thing.
A guy named Kenn has been trying to get me to deposit. My style of Betting i like to deposit like $500 and work it up and take a shot. I explained to him the limits there are too low for me to deposit.
So he tells me i will get higher limits. I was hoping for $5000 he tells me $10000 . Not that i would ever bet that but ok. I told him on SBR there are those saying they have been limited to insane amounts after a couple wins.He assures me that will not happen. I also said i do not want to be told if i win i am more the a recreational better and get screwed that way. He told me that will not happen.
So after i get promised all this i deposited $550 . With the bonuses i get it up to $2100 after one single bet. I won a little in casino but did not stay in there long .
I go to bet on a game and it says $500 today. This is after placing a larger bet last night and winning. I went on live chat and the girl first tells me it is a circled game. I found that hard to believe even if it a circled game with my limits how can it be $500 and it is a big game too.
Anyway here is the conversation a copied and will paste it here. Kenn does not come in until a couple of hours i will see if they do the right thing and not screw me. If i do get screwed i will let everyone everywhere know.
I thought reading that a bunch did get paid in here i would be ok too. And even if i do get it back if the game i bet on would have won it would have cost me a good amount because i could not bet the larger amount. Plus if i have to keep going through this crap to get a higher bet in that is BS too.

Please wait for a site operator to respond. You are now chatting with 'Mary'
Mary: Hello. Thank you for contacting sports services, How may I assist you today?
rob: hi-are the limits online overnight lines
rob: it says my max is 500
Mary: Hello Rob
rob: hi
Mary: Yes, it's a circled games
rob: 00 thats it?
rob: 500?
Mary: It's depends sir
rob: so what are non circled games
rob: he told me my limit yesterday was like 5000 i can undrstand a circled game but 500 is really low
Mary: You you have any specific game?
rob: ohio state /illinois
Mary: * Do
Mary: Let me check, one moment please
rob: ok ty
Mary: You have a limit $500
Mary: All the games.
rob: what-this is notr what i was told by kenn before you got my deposit i asked him this
rob: he raised my limits in order to get me to deposit and now that i deposit this happens?
rob: i would have NEVER deposited with $500 limits
rob: is he there
rob: i went over all this with him before you got my money and higher limits was what was promised before i deposited
Mary: We based the limits depending on the amount you deposited.
rob: no way this is BS you cannot have one of your employees guarentee me something to get me to deposit and screw someone over like this. I told him the reason i have not deposited is because i wanted higher limits. I told him i work it up and like to take shots. He GUARANTEED me i would have higher limits. He knew all this beforehand and promised me all this BEFORE tyou took my money.
Mary: Let me check if we can raised your limit.
Mary: For how much you want to raise it?
rob: What Kenn promised me he said like $10000 but i am good with $5000
rob: I would never do 10000 anyway
rob: I just want what was promised to me b4 i deposited
rob: ask kenn
rob: ext 2317
rob: i know its not your fault but it this should not happen when everything was already worked out
Mary: I'm sorry, for now we can only give you $500. Let's wait for a few weeks to see your actions then we will decide if can raised your limit or not.
rob: omg is kenn in
rob: i am going on every forum and showing this
Mary: Kenn is not at the office yet.
rob: Ok whaen is he in
Mary: Let me check
Mary: Kenn will be at the office at 10am Pacific Time.
rob: Ok so any minute its 11 here so 10 there right
Mary: Pacific Time
Mary: He will be here in 2 hours.
rob: oh ok ill try then
Mary: Thank you
rob: ty

[bostonboss]

premature post..should have waited to talk to kenn first.

[captrobey]

premature post..should have waited to talk to kenn first.

That is why i said i have not talked to him yet. But regardless i may end up losing $1500 more i would have bet if the bet i have bet wins. No matter what happens i should not have to go through all this crap. If they raise my limit i will give them credit of course . But so far the bet i made is winning so instead of a $2100 bet i only could do $500 so i still was screwed .
And i am not making anything up this was all promised to me before i deposited. Besides Kenn every time i call is not there or running late.

[captrobey]

Another guy named Ace is basically telling me that the way ia ma betting does not look like a recreational better. And Kenn is nowhere to be found. So he wants me to bet the next week and see how i bet to determine if i get limits.
So i basically get lied to by Kenn and this other guy is saying he will do everything in his power to help me in a week. So basically i have all this money in there at $2200 and i will be forced to place $500 bets and in the end be screwed over anyway because they will probably use the excuse i am not a recreational better. So i was pretty much lied to.

[bostonboss]

so hit them for 500 a game

[Triumph]

they lowered me to 500 max, I don't mind because they always pay

[captrobey]

so hit them for 500 a game

Thats what i am doing no other choice

[captrobey]

they lowered me to 500 max, I don't mind because they always pay

If they did not promise me higher limits before i deposited then i would not be as upset. If i do get the rollover i hope they do pay and do not use more excuses

[dark star]

All things being equal.this book pays

[BAUS]

You'll get paid if you complete the rollover. I wouldn't be too worried about that.

Just pray they don't lower you to $250 like they do to a lot of players.

BAUS

[captrobey]

You'll get paid if you complete the rollover. I wouldn't be too worried about that.

Just pray they don't lower you to $250 like they do to a lot of players.

BAUS

Losses count toward Rollover too right? If you hit a Parlay they count the winnings toward it right not just the deposit amount. I hope i do not go down to $250. I deposited $550 and hit some games and live casino so i am at over $6000 right now . I took the 25% cash and 50% FP bonus. Its 10Xs rollover . So the rollover should be around $10000 unless they try to add the fees.

[captrobey]

All things being equal.this book pays

Some of the stuff the guy said to me though worries me. Like about not being a recreational player because i wanted higher limits. Like if i do the rollover they will use that as an excuse to not pay me. He also mentioned about the fine print that says management can basically do whatever they want. So maybe they can make any BS excuse up or limit me to $10 a game and use that as an excuse.

[captrobey]

Does anyone that plays on Betmania know this answer. If you bet a parlay say $500 to win $1300 does'nt the $1300 go towards the rollover? The girl on Live Chat told me the $500 not the $1300 goes toward it. I thought every place i ever bet the higher amount of a bet like that went toward it for a Parlay.

[captrobey]

Ok i just5 checked with RW and he said it is the lesser amount i trust those guys 100%

[captrobey]

I just bet a whole bunch of ways on 2 games $500 each time. Straight,Parlay,Round Robin,and Teaser . So if they both hit it will win a bunch and give me a bunch toward the Rollover. Eagles Over 54.5 and Bengals -4.5

[Triumph]

These books are solid , they have paid me for 7 fking yrs, if you have a legit grip , like they slow paid me or they no-paid me , then sound off

[captrobey]

I lost the Eagles bet so i am pretty much Done. I am glad you like them but i will NEVER be giving them another cent after screwing me over after promising me the higher limits. After 1 bet they lowered it and the guy that lied about it all has disappeared. So Betmania and ALL their sister books i am totally done with. The guy asked me why i never deposit there and what it would take. I told him higher limits . He promises them to me and i made sure they would not be lowered after i win a bet or two. He told me they would not and after 1 bet they did it.

[Triumph]

One must decide which is more important, Sky high limits or getting paid when you win Betislands gave me sky high limits, any other questions?

[captrobey]

One must decide which is more important, Sky high limits or getting paid when you win Betislands gave me sky high limits, any other questions?

Yes i have a Damn Question. Does Bigfoot exist i believe he does with so many sightings. I think he is a type of extinct Ape called Gigantopithecus.
As for What were discussing. Yes ,getting paid is important. But- more important is that this book flat out LIED to me to get me to deposit. That is not right. I have other books i could have deposited at that have always paid me . But i gave in because this Kenn guy(Who no longer will talk to me) promised me this before i deposited. I would have never taken the bonus with a 10Xs roll if i knew they were going to do $500 limits.
This really has nothing to do that they pay or not. This has to do with them lying and misleading someone to get them to deposit. Then screwing them over. It is not like there is fine print . I told him my concerns and what i wanted before i deposited. He guarenteed me i would get it if i gave them a chance and deposited. As a matter of fact one of the things i told him that he assured me of was that if i won my first few bets i would not get limited like i have read some people have.
He told me that would not happen. And after 1 bet-it did. It almost seems like you are saying, and maybe i am wrong-but it is ok that they lied to me and screwed me over because if i win i will get paid.