1. 11-10-09 08:34 AM #1
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    Is BETPHOENIX underrated at B+ ?

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  2. 11-10-09 08:37 AM #2
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    I think many here feel they are...........


    My personal belief is that their B+ rating is spot on at the current time considering their longevity in the business.
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  3. 11-10-09 08:37 AM #3
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    I think their adolescence has them there..You cant be a new kid on the block and be a top dog..I assume part of the ratings are based on track record..they keep it up a while longer and they got me

    This is one of the few places I have deposited base on their recent track record..no bs
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  4. 11-10-09 08:39 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraitShooter View Post
    I think their adolescence has them there..You cant be a new kid on the block and be a top dog..I assume part of the ratings are based on track record..they keep it up a while longer and they got me

    This is one of the few places I have deposited base on their recent track record..no bs
    Agree
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  5. 11-10-09 09:17 AM #5
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    Lol you should get Nicky Santoros opinion
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  6. 11-10-09 09:19 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by tltaylor89 View Post
    Lol you should get Nicky Santoros opinion

    Been going like Nicky there, destroyed for months but now back above the breakeven mark.

    They have treated my like a king at BetPhoenix.........
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  7. 11-10-09 09:24 AM #7
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    The ONLY thing keeping them at B+ is time in business...........but I have to tell you, I like what I see so far. Customer Service is up there with The Greek. I don't love their website compared to the simplicity of Greek- but I can deal with it.

    My question is do they lower limits etc. Greek welcomes the sharp action and I have NEVER heard of them lowering limits or shying away from business.

    Phoenix is off to a great start and I can see them moving to A/A+ in the very near future.
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  8. 11-10-09 09:27 AM #8
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    This is my only book now and I don't see that changing. Solid lines. CS is superb. Payouts are easy & quick.
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  9. 11-10-09 09:30 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    They have treated my like a king at BetPhoenix.........
    you say you were treated like a king??? try getting offered a free round trip 3 day vacation all paid, INCL my own office and 3 computers..

    Now that's treated like a king.. i deserve it and richie now adores me.. i'm down so much at that place that they probably renovated that whole place and gave everyone a raise, and i paid for all that...

    I can't win there if my life depended on it.. I think Jimmy The Greek must be making the lines there cause they are unbeatable..at least phoenix is now safe and well funded, thanks to me.

    you're all welcome..
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  10. 11-10-09 09:39 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicky Santoro View Post
    you say you were treated like a king??? try getting offered a free round trip 3 day vacation all paid, INCL my own office and 3 computers..

    Now that's treated like a king.. i deserve it and richie now adores me.. i'm down so much at that place that they probably renovated that whole place and gave everyone a raise, and i paid for all that...

    I can't win there if my life depended on it.. I think Jimmy The Greek must be making the lines there cause they are unbeatable..at least phoenix is now safe and well funded, thanks to me.

    you're all welcome..



    I thought you mentioned that you were back in the black there after being down a ton?...........
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  11. 11-10-09 09:42 AM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36 View Post
    This is my only book now and I don't see that changing. Solid lines. CS is superb. Payouts are easy & quick.
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  12. 11-10-09 09:48 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    I thought you mentioned that you were back in the black there after being down a ton?...........
    3 weeks ago, i made an incredible comeback and all of a sudden, was up on them.. Then i spoke to richie on phone for the 1st time this year, and i swear, it has gone downhill since. i never won a game again.. i have had like 19 of 21 losing days since, and big losing days, too..

    that richie is a jinx. NEVER ever again am i talking to this guy on the phone. when i call CS there, i tell girl to pass me Fred.. that richie is unbeatable.. he completely jinxed me..

    i fear the kid now
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  13. 11-10-09 10:12 AM #13
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    Who cares if a book is rated an A or B it is not like there are any advantages there.
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  14. 11-10-09 10:24 AM #14
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    I'd say B+ is accurate at this time. I don't sign up at many "new" books anymore, so they were a rare addition for me some months back and I'm quite impressed. I've lost every single cent I have ever deposited there, so I'm sure they're impressed with me as well.....
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  15. 11-10-09 10:28 AM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpage View Post
    I'd say B+ is accurate at this time. I don't sign up at many "new" books anymore, so they were a rare addition for me some months back and I'm quite impressed. I've lost every single cent I have ever deposited there, so I'm sure they're impressed with me as well.....
    Me too, mainly because I wagered my entire balance with my bonus on a single play that lost a few times.

    It's true I've never cashed out at betPhoenix but its not like I've made many deposits altogether, I think I've deposited a half dozen times and am down about $1800.
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  16. 11-10-09 10:48 AM #16
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    My opinion is "B". Honest betting office, good offers, good odds, fast payouts, but their email support sucks...check other SBR forum about this.
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  17. 11-10-09 10:50 AM #17
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    Like many have said , betPhx is too 'new' to be higher. The B+ might be too high
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  18. 11-10-09 10:52 AM #18
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    seen several complaining about service...phones..online... surprised rating so high!
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  19. 11-10-09 10:52 AM #19
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    I have never had a problem with them and I give them a good rating. I did have a little problem with their new software but that is corrected since then. I haven't had a cash out as of yet and when I do I hope that there is no problems. I sure like the Customer Service so far.
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  20. 11-10-09 11:23 AM #20
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    My guess is that if they continue to progress in the next year, they will be rated as an A+ soon. Their customer service is A+ and they offer lots of betting options, great bonuses, fast payouts, etc.

    Keep up the good work Richard!!!
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  21. 11-10-09 11:27 AM #21
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    B or B+ at best
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  22. 11-10-09 11:27 AM #22
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    I say a B

    it seems they are good if you bet larger amounts

    smaller players are better off at 5 Dimes, Jamaica and Rebatewager.
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  23. 11-10-09 11:53 AM #23
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    I don't understand the tenure thing...it is no secret that our ownership is shared with a 10 year in existence A+ book at this very site.

    JJ,

    Why the B at best? Why are smaller players better off at other places? What do the others offer that is so far advanced above us? This is not confrontational, just curious as to the reasoning behind the statement.
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  24. 11-10-09 11:54 AM #24
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    I guess I am a fan of the B+ books. Love BetPhoenix ... Love Carib.
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  25. 11-10-09 12:15 PM #25
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    agree with PP22they should have no problem being an A+ in near future their C.S. is already there
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  26. 11-10-09 12:25 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by betphoenix View Post
    JJ,

    Why the B at best? Why are smaller players better off at other places? What do the others offer that is so far advanced above us? This is not confrontational, just curious as to the reasoning behind the statement.
    I think the real question is why are you worried about what a clown and a paid shill for another sportsbook is thinking about your shop.
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  27. 11-10-09 12:32 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by betphoenix View Post
    I don't understand the tenure thing...it is no secret that our ownership is shared with a 10 year in existence A+ book at this very site.

    JJ,

    Why the B at best? Why are smaller players better off at other places? What do the others offer that is so far advanced above us? This is not confrontational, just curious as to the reasoning behind the statement.
    Just curious...which A+ book does Phoenix share ownership in? I love betphoenix so far...and I'm difficult to please. Have only used greek and matchbook in the past. My only wish is that you did book to book transfers with the greek....not doing book to book transfers with the greek is like a restaurant not accepting ************.

    Regardless- great book, great customer service
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  28. 11-10-09 12:33 PM #28
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    BP! Please check this topic which I opened not long ago...this is good reason IMHO for the "B" rating...

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...t-quality.html

    If you check back a little more in my posts, you can see that I praised BP a few months ago, as they were very helpful with a friend...still, email support is a very important factor, as I, for example cannot access live chat from my working place....



    Quote Originally Posted by betphoenix View Post
    I don't understand the tenure thing...it is no secret that our ownership is shared with a 10 year in existence A+ book at this very site.

    JJ,

    Why the B at best? Why are smaller players better off at other places? What do the others offer that is so far advanced above us? This is not confrontational, just curious as to the reasoning behind the statement.
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  29. 11-10-09 12:45 PM #29
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    We did some tech changes that affected emails for a few days due to exchange policy, and also memory size for the server. I will take that one on the chin as my fault. Has it been ok recently?

    We share a main principal with DSI, which is no Industry secret.
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  30. 11-10-09 12:46 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-e-t-s jets View Post
    Greek welcomes the sharp action and I have NEVER heard of them lowering limits or shying away from business.
    Doing my good deed for the day. Now you have heard. They will shy away from INTERNET business, not phone business. But the record should always be kept as straight as possible. Wally, can I come back?

    There is a book on here right now that bought itself an A- rating and never earned it at all. Everyyone knows who that is. They have since been shipped down to where they always belonged, B-

    Everyone knows I am not a shill. Only a few books will treat me kind. Richard and Phoenix, from day one, has been a class act. Not many books take the short end of the stick to bolster their image. Phoenix has done this consistently.

    Once they had their Neteller issue worked out--they should have been raised to an A- then. SBR is aware of the deep pockets behind Phoenix.

    One year from now will be A+. I am drooling over being able to play at an exchange run by these folks.

    Full disclosure: I can not receive any more bonuses, so this is not a paid adv.
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  31. 11-10-09 12:54 PM #31
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    betPhx needs more books to do transfers with; add Oly/Jam , CRIS/BM & 5Dimes
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    Quote Originally Posted by katstale View Post
    One year from now will be A+. I am drooling over being able to play at an exchange run by these folks.
    BP is starting an exchange next year?
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  33. 11-10-09 12:59 PM #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    betPhx needs more books to do transfers with; add Oly/Jam , CRIS/BM & 5Dimes

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  34. 11-10-09 01:00 PM #34
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    I play with bphoenix sister sports-1 and have been loven it but i have to say B is the right rating
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  35. 11-10-09 01:01 PM #35
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    i'll be happy with just Pinny for now..

    but at least they do matchy. which is real key
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