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    TopSports AU With Major Software Upgrade

    Pretty impressive

    Smaller book but of course strong..all Australian owned

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    goodluck to them...

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    It's not revolutionary stuff but from where they have come from it's a huge step up and a much needed one

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    Dink I agree the old stuff was bubblegum software as Far as they're concerned it's a major upgrade

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Dink I agree the old stuff was bubblegum software as Far as they're concerned it's a major upgrade
    "bubblegum"?
    It worked, was reliable, no issues with it.
    I'm impressed with (though concerned about) all the new products and promos which will surely boost their customer numbers but don't see how the software delivers anything more than before. In fact I am struggling to see anything that's improved on that front against the fact that I'm now being logged out more frequently than ever before.
    I'm concerned that they are positioning themselves as a tempting target for one of the corporate cowards who would wreck what is now the best online bookie in Australia.
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    I heard they are on the slow side in paying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redondo View Post
    I heard they are on the slow side in paying.
    Any proof Son???

    You sure you got the right book??

    This is a deep Aussie book

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Any proof Son???

    You sure you got the right book??

    This is a deep Aussie book
    That's BS.

    I've been using them for years and withdrawals have always been very prompt. Overnight transfer to bank account.

    However, if you use a credit or DC they have a rather unique (in my experience) method of processing reversals of your deposits which can take a couple of days longer to appear on your card or bank account. Better to use Poli if you want to be sure of overnight credits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    "bubblegum"?
    It worked, was reliable, no issues with it.
    I'm impressed with (though concerned about) all the new products and promos which will surely boost their customer numbers but don't see how the software delivers anything more than before. In fact I am struggling to see anything that's improved on that front against the fact that I'm now being logged out more frequently than ever before.
    I'm concerned that they are positioning themselves as a tempting target for one of the corporate cowards who would wreck what is now the best online bookie in Australia.
    OMG are you blind?

    The old site was an eyesore.

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    As for being logged out, new software, it'll be perfected soon little problems will be gone

    Also, if they sell up, good on them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dink View Post
    OMG are you blind?

    The old site was an eyesore.
    I made no comment about what it LOOKED like. Frankly I couldn't care less as long as it is functional and hassle free. As I've always found it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dink View Post
    As for being logged out, new software, it'll be perfected soon little problems will be gone

    Also, if they sell up, good on them!
    Yeah good for their pockets but a serious setback for punters such as I.

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    Nice $600 match up free bet if you deposit $600. For old and new customers.

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    You guys are forgetting one major change I don't think it's software related either due to some new regulation they can stay open 24 hours a day now before they were only open to gamble on Australian hours business hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    You guys are forgetting one major change I don't think it's software related either due to some new regulation they can stay open 24 hours a day now before they were only open to gamble on Australian hours business hours
    BAAHHH wrong

    Who the fukk is this?

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    They claim they are open to take bets 24 hrs a day now

    This was not the case before

    They could only take bets during Aussie business hrs 7 days a week

    On Sunday you could not bet early nfl games because they wee closed

    Also at Tats you cannot bet unless they are open

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    still wrong

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    Dink you have zero clue

    You could not make online bets on events that were going off when the book was closed

    The only lines offered were events that were going on during their hrs of operation

    So your half right

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    JJ , I have had an account with them for a few years so don't talk to me like you have a clue at all.

    I could get bets on with them outside business hours (not 24/7, never tried, but still outside business hours), so you who can't even have an account there is trying to tell someone who has an account and money with them that they have zero clue? Pull your fukkn head in!

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    Dink i am 1000% sure you could not bet an early nfl game there because they were closed

    Maybe line protection was one reason


    Now it seems it has changed

    If you not believe me call them

    I have way more experience than you could ever imagine worldwide with sportsbooks

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    JJ, you said you couldn't get a bet on outside of business hours. I'm saying you could, because I HAD DONE IT. Simple, understand?

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    Yes I hear you
    My point was you could not bet an event that was outside their business hrs

    Not exactly sure on their reasoning


    Sorry for confusion

    Now it seems everything goes which is good

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    they didn't close outside office hours.
    you placed the bet, then had to wait for x hours until at some random time someone came in to the office to accept it (or not of course). tatts does close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Any proof Son???

    You sure you got the right book??

    This is a deep Aussie book
    no I do infact have the wrong book, I ws thinking top bet

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    Other than the TAB's

    topsport.com.au and betstar.com.au are the only remaining 100% owned Australian books that I know of.

    If I had to rate them they are pretty even, betstar winning by a point for having there odds available earlier and more consistantly.

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    Another point is markets in general betstar offer more and considerably more

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    Dink correct

    BetStar also much much busier

    No comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Dink correct

    BetStar also much much busier

    No comparison
    Wrong!

    Huge difference in favour of Topsport.
    Betstar won't let me bet any fixed odds racing or promo. products and cut back almost all my sports bets to a fraction of what I ask for.
    Topsport offering BOB and great promos such as $600 free bet and money back for running 2nd and 3rd win by a mile.

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    No I am right

    The bets taken at betstar each day are 10x the amount of bets at TopSport

    There not even in the same league

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    No I am right

    The bets taken at betstar each day are 10x the amount of bets at TopSport

    There not even in the same league
    Bets taken is an utterly useless measure of a bookmaker's value to me.

    I suspect your figures are somewhat out of date too.

    I'd be utterly astonished if Betstar took more bets, let alone 10x yesterday!

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    maybe alexa rankings are something to go by?

    Betsar
    global rank 348,452
    rank in australia 3,686



    topsport
    global rank 538,008
    rank in australia 7,223

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    Quote Originally Posted by dink View Post
    maybe alexa rankings are something to go by?

    Betsar
    global rank 348,452
    rank in australia 3,686



    topsport
    global rank 538,008
    rank in australia 7,223
    and how old is that data?
    my money firmly on Topsport having massacred them yesterday and will be well in front by the end of the carnival

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    and how old is that data?
    my money firmly on Topsport having massacred them yesterday and will be well in front by the end of the carnival
    I think it's daily if they are registered with alexa, if not then i think it's once a week. I'm not an alexa pro though.

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    And didn't they have the exact same promo for 2nd and 3rd as sportsbet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dink View Post
    And didn't they have the exact same promo for 2nd and 3rd as sportsbet?
    dunno about corporate coward Sportsbet's promos, Topsport were refunding up to $100 incl. for BOB bets which have far higher limits than the $250 most of the cowards will take.

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