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He helped me a while back, was owed $4k by a book and they weren't paying (no dispute, they were just ignoring payout requests). When SBR came knocking, they paid up straight away.Originally Posted by pokerplayer22
People think he has pull but he has none. The only person who ever sees any $$$ by asking Justin for help is Justin himself.
You are right acarmelo and I do apologize. Unlike Justin, I would just like to see the fair decision made with this and every dispute
-1400 you suck dick for a living
documents have been sent
Well Justin...its your turn..Get this man his money and his betpoints
I received it. It raises a number of questions. I've written SIA to ask for some explanations.
I'll continue to get more facts from both sides until it all makes sense. $50 or not, we'll see this to the end.
justin got me 10k i was owed about a month ago, the difference here being, i didn't cheatPeople think he has pull but he has none. The only person who ever sees any $$$ by asking Justin for help is Justin himself.
Why would anybody use SIA to begin with
Why would anybody use SIA to begin with
I can promise that whatever book owed you 10k didnt pay you because of Justin
perhaps not, perhaps yes.
but when i spoke with them, they told me they were taking my 10k and refunding my $500 deposit.
when justin called them, they wired me the money the next day
wish i did my research before hand. a quick google check with keywords "fraud" and "scam" produces thousands of hits. its my error and i admit that. they hooked me in with there soft lines.
its my goal to make sure newbies get the msg that this book is a complete scam. a website is coming soon.
Why would anybody use SIA to begin with
Its probably a dumb question but has Justin got anything done for you on this matter since you got him the documents he requested?
he said sia thinks my creditcard statements are fake lol. i gave him the phone number for my creditcard issuer. but he wants the full creditacard number. im hesitant to provide that info to a complete stranger who i dont know anymore then i know jesus christ. allready been scammed with that info , can ya blame me..
if the creditcard statments / phone number , isnt enough then i dont think theres much i can do.
what else did anyone expect sia to say anyways? "ok, you got us.. we are theives" lol
Isn't the balance on the card 0$? If it isn't, take the money out and you shouldn't have to be worried about giving your info out.
Good informative thread, cant wait to see how things pan out.
I contacted the cc issuer - if I can verify there was no charge back, you win big.
The cc issuer said they will tell me, but I need your full cc number. Send it to me so we can get this one closed out.
I say chargebacks can sometimes be caused by bad processers that list charges as gaming .I had this happen to me at Betus for 600 bucks guys charged my cc and the bank refunded me because they do not honor the charges.
The player provided statement had no ********** or credit on it. If the statement is accurate, player wins.
That means the book is trying to double dip.
If the statement is correct, the player wins as I said.
SIA pointed at some irregularities in the statement, and I agree that it raises questions to the document's authenticity. Which takes us back to the original issue... Was there a **********?
The only way for me to know with certainty is to get this directly from the provider.
wouldn't a ********** on a pre-paid card take longer vs. a ********** on a normal cc? Just asking. Did this recently happen?
It seems to me that whatever info that is provided to Justin will never be sufficient. It seems pretty clear that it would take a nuclear explosion for him to rule against a book....Just an observation based on this and previous threads.
i read this, and actually heard this from a friend i was telling my story to as well, so i was waiting for a reply from my card issuer regarding how chargebacks on there prepaid works and heres the respone..
"Cardholder can try to contact the merchant that took the payments and request a refund with the reason “they did not authorize the purchases or receive merchandise” If the merchant agrees to refund the cardholder the funds would be put back on the wallet approx 5-7 business days after the refund is processed from the merchant side.
b) If the merchant does not agree to process a refund, or the cardholder is not successful contacting the merchant/company the Cardholder can file a ********** for the approved transactions. A ********** can take 45-120 days to process, is a cost of $20.00 per transaction filed and is not guaranteed."
so umm yeah.. there goes there whole ********** theory. charged my card on the 19th and 26th, and i filed a ********** on the 30th...? this gets better and better
just wanted to add, ive gone ahead and given justin the card number now
i think its become obvious what has happened.. they were not aware i used a prepaid card. and they got caught. no balance to steal without me knowing, and no 3-4 day ********** like real ************. no wonder the first guy i talked to at sia on the phone sounded suprised when i told him it was prepaid. it all makes sense now. i wouldnt be suprised if this leads to them not accepting prepaid cards anymore.
Hellodestiny...i do hope you get this issue resolved but i will warn you...common sense and fairness are not 2 of Justins atributes. Good Luck!!!
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**UPDATE**
just recieved an email from SIA telling me i owe them 50 bucks and my account is closed untill i pay up lol. also, they just lied again within this email saying the date in question is october 10th, when in fact as previously stated in numerous places such as my credit card statements, various emails, and the original post in this thread, its october 19th was the original deposit thats in question... thus proveing more and more that they lie so much that they cant even keep there stories straight... pathetic
lookin back in this thread, im glad justin posted this, because then posting what SIA says comes from someone elses mouth other then mine, thus being more proof they are lying. as you can see above.. justin says sia told him
"SIA claims a $50 deposit was made on October 19th, and bet it all on a 2-team parlay (San Jose ML, Vancouver ML). When it lost, a ********** was issued, and your account was closed."
a few problems here.
1)a ********** takes 40-120 days as per my card issuer
2)they say here they closed my account after this bogus ********** after this bogus parlay was played on the 19th.. yet they have said numerous times they closed it on the 30th.
and the meat and potatoes of there thievery.. the email i recieved from them minutes ago..
From:Sports Interaction Security (security@sportsinteraction.com) Sent:November 5, 2009 4:50:00 PMTo: jeff102380@hotmail.com
REFERENCE NUMBER: LTK152028398221X Please use this ticket number in any correspondence with us.
Dear Jeff,
Thank you for being a member of Sports Interaction.
There is currently an issue in regards to a returned deposit on your account. Your account is in arrears $50.00, due to a **********.
According to our records:
On October 10 2009 you successfully completed a deposit in the amount of $50.00 via credit card. This amount was successfully credited to your Sports Interaction account and, subsequently, the funds were wagered on this day.
On October 30th 2009 our third party payment processor advised us that a ********** had been received for the deposit in question.
Due to this **********, your account is suspended and is in arrears $50.00 because the funds were wagered.
Your account will remain closed until the debt is settled and the registration process is completed. We thank you for your cooperation and understanding.
If you have any additional questions, please feel free to contact us during the hours of 9:00am to 5:00pm Eastern Time, Monday to Friday. You may email us directly at security@sportsinteraction.com.
Best regards, Theresa
Sports Interaction Security Department
security@sportsinteraction.com
North America: 1-888-922-5575
International: +1-450-635-5575
http://www.sportsinteraction.com
Established and Licensed in North America since 1997
ive come to the conclusion, and i have indeed told them this.. its probably better if they just stop talking, because the more they open there mouths, the more lies they get caught in
i almost have a feeling that they sent me that email to try and save face to make all this seem legit, with the more info justin is passing along to them, but in doing so made a typo on the date lol. which just made there case worse lol
idiots
This all seems pretty cut and dry. Justin asked you for your paperwork which you supplied to him. I wonder what kind of spin he is now going to put on this to make it your fault and not SIA's. Only time will tell.
pokerplayer shut up man no one cares what you think about justin hes a stand up guy
wow, seems like theyre trying to cover their asses pretty well.... im sure justin will be able to resolve this whole mess..it will take time, but it seems its in your favor... best of luck! ive never had issues with them before.lookin back in this thread, im glad justin posted this, because then posting what SIA says comes from someone elses mouth other then mine, thus being more proof they are lying. as you can see above.. justin says sia told him
"SIA claims a $50 deposit was made on October 19th, and bet it all on a 2-team parlay (San Jose ML, Vancouver ML). When it lost, a ********** was issued, and your account was closed."
a few problems here.
1)a ********** takes 40-120 days as per my card issuer
2)they say here they closed my account after this bogus ********** after this bogus parlay was played on the 19th.. yet they have said numerous times they closed it on the 30th.
and the meat and potatoes of there thievery.. the email i recieved from them minutes ago..
From:
REFERENCE NUMBER: LTK152028398221X Please use this ticket number in any correspondence with us.
Dear Jeff,
Thank you for being a member of Sports Interaction.
There is currently an issue in regards to a returned deposit on your account. Your account is in arrears $50.00, due to a **********.
According to our records:
On October 10 2009 you successfully completed a deposit in the amount of $50.00 via credit card. This amount was successfully credited to your Sports Interaction account and, subsequently, the funds were wagered on this day.
On October 30th 2009 our third party payment processor advised us that a ********** had been received for the deposit in question.
Due to this **********, your account is suspended and is in arrears $50.00 because the funds were wagered.
Your account will remain closed until the debt is settled and the registration process is completed. We thank you for your cooperation and understanding.
If you have any additional questions, please feel free to contact us during the hours of 9:00am to 5:00pm Eastern Time, Monday to Friday. You may email us directly at security@sportsinteraction.com.
Best regards, Theresa
Sports Interaction Security Department
security@sportsinteraction.com
North America: 1-888-922-5575
International: +1-450-635-5575
http://www.sportsinteraction.com
Established and Licensed in North America since 1997
ive come to the conclusion, and i have indeed told them this.. its probably better if they just stop talking, because the more they open there mouths, the more lies they get caught in
It looks to me that you or one of your jhommies made a deposit and after you lost the bet you called the Credit Card company and ask them not to honor the transaction.
SIA didn't stay for 12 years in the business by phucking someone over $50.
Your prepaid card must come for sure with an online statement, just give Justin your user name and password and let him look at the original piece of information...I'm sure he's not the kind of guy who will steal 0 (zero) dollars from you empty prepaid CC.
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