1. #1
    sbrzol
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    bitcoinlivebets stealing all my winnings 30BTC $3600

    those who do not want to read all posts, here are the significant facts


    i made 2 withdrawals 12 BTC and 20.89 BTC


    - but i got only 1.2 BTC and 2.089 BTC (so only 10%)
    - and bitcoinlivebets added a fake bet to my account



    Total number of games 20.5 Romeo, Caroline - Szupper, Marlies o -147
    Stake: 29,601000 BTC (Bet by slip 29,601000 BTC), Possible winnings: 0,000000 BTC


    bitcoinlivebets claim that



    - in their first reply they talking about voiding my bets , breaking their rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?to...511#msg3216511) and ” are not able to pay more than the amounts of 1.2 and 2.089 BTC „ but nothing about the fake bet (i have never placed) i earlier asked them what this bet is http://www.imageupload.co.uk/files/m...ccml1l62jz.jpg )
    - i placed 10 times more amount (29,601 BTC) on that fake bet, despite of earlier my highest stake was only 3 BTC
    - they increased their maximum bet amount on 9/17/2013 , but i put my whole account balance on a noname itf tennis match, insted of such players matches as Radwanska, Gulbis, Cornet ,Becker and only after the 8th match where i could bet on with higher amount (you can check my 8 bets that i placed after 9/17/2013 , max. 2 and 3 BTC round sums, no decimal point https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?to...301#msg3220301 )
    - i withdrawed first only 1.2 BTC when my account balance was 24,24 BTC (not the half 12 BTC, only 1.2) (in my bitcoin wallet i have more than 1000 bitcoins and i have fun with withdrawing 1.2 BTC)
    - they know that i will make another withdrawal request and so they paid it out only 53 hours later
    - i placed that fake bet when my account balance was 31,69 BTC, i opened the bet slip and typed 29,601, consider i have never placed 3 decimal points sums, insted of round sums at 10 times less stakes
    - and after my lost fake bet i withdrawed the remaining 2.089 BTC , and i got it after 21 hours without charged any fee (but earlier they always charged me and their customers with 0.5% fee)
    - it is only coincidence that if you count with 12 BTC withdrawal in the account balance history then exactly 20.89 remaning in my account before the they added the false bet , which equals exactly my second withdrawal request amount (you can check it in here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?to...958#msg3220958 )


    so i had to bet on that tennis match exactly 29,601 beacuse with other amount the 12 -> 1.2 and 20.89 -> 2.089 conversation wont match
    (do not forget that bitcoinlivebets admit/shared those numbers too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?to...958#msg3220958 )





    the fake bet match was a quarterfinal match , the winner gets $245


    (ITF Women’s Circuit $10,000 – 32 Draw (2% Fee = $200)
    32 Singles 16 Doubles (per team)


    Winner $1,568 $637
    Finalist $ 980 $343
    Semi-finalist $ 490 $196
    Quarter-finalist $ 245 $ 98
    Round of 16 $ 196 $ 49
    Round of 32 $ 98 -
    Total $7,644 $2,156


    29,601 BTC is about $3600


    (so if you are interested in it is time to you to launch a betting mafia, you could bet on itf tennis matches about 30 BTC on every market, (with multiple accounts more and more) at bitcoinlivebets ,and you have to pay only a little sum to the cheating tennis player , that would be the last day of a bookmaker who would accept such high stakes on such matches )


    the maximum bet is on their site 3 BTC at this time





    "Minimum bet: 0.001 BTC, maximum bet 3 BTC per bet combination"
    after 5 minutes form my post , where i said that the max is only 3 BTC , the staring page changed





    "Minimum bet: 0.001 BTC"
    on there site there is nothing about withdrawal fees, of course they will update after my post, but you can check it in google site cache service


    Earlier i had 2 more withdrawals : with 0.5% fee


    3 BTC --> 2.98511 BTC
    https://blockchain.info/tx/f15ef48d1...910f7376e78ad6


    26,474 BTC --> 9.93273311 BTC + 16.40947689 BTC = 26,34220799 ( i got this in 2 transactions)


    https://blockchain.info/tx/73fed1684...a9a19e8cfe1e54
    https://blockchain.info/tx/92080917a...ef8f41e8b0ad83


    and here are the last two grabled withdrawals, without any fee (1.2 and 2.089 insted of 12 and 20.89)


    https://blockchain.info/de/tx/095440...1839187694eb06
    https://blockchain.info/de/tx/a83779...a50ffc5aebd21b


    (here i do not understand why the input output is much higher than the Estimated BTC Transacted)


    there are 32 hours difference beetween the withdrawal requests but i got them only 2 minutes difference 53 hours (2 days 5 hours) later from my 1st withdrawal request (you can check it in the first bitcoinlivebets post in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?to...793#msg3217793 )


    bitcoinlivebets refered that they paid me out earlier 26 BTC, but it is normal , i do not understand, perhaps they think if they paid me out earlier they did me a favor
    Last edited by sbr.rodrigo; 05-27-15 at 10:34 AM.

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    sbrzol
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    i will come up with another post , why i withdrawed all my money form this site

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    I read about this complaint on Mr.Pier's site earlier. What book is this one connected with?

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    sbrzol
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    i wonder what you think about this issue , (i placed that bet or bitcoinlivebets added that fake bet to my account )
    http://www46.zippyshare.com/v/82456415/file.html excel xlsx file


    if you have 5 minutes , please do some math , only adding numbers
    you will see the reason why the fake bet stake is exactly 29,601 BTC


    cos the 12 -> 1.2 and 20.89 -> 2.089 (withdrawal amount faking) conversation only could be matched with that abnormal stake


    (i posted my transaction and betting history more than 2 days ago and bitcoinlivetbets do not cast doubt on it that it is correct or not )
    Last edited by sbrzol; 09-25-13 at 03:28 PM.

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    If PaulyPoker is hyping this BitCoin place, then there is no chance you will ever get a withdrawal processed there.

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    sbrzol
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbrzol View Post
    those who do not want to read all posts, here are the significant facts


    Earlier i had 2 more withdrawals : with 0.5% fee


    3 BTC --> 2.98511 BTC
    https://blockchain.info/tx/f15ef48d1...910f7376e78ad6


    26,474 BTC --> 9.93273311 BTC + 16.40947689 BTC = 26,34220799 ( i got this in 2 transactions)


    https://blockchain.info/tx/73fed1684...a9a19e8cfe1e54
    https://blockchain.info/tx/92080917a...ef8f41e8b0ad83


    bitcoinlivebets refered that they paid me out earlier 26 BTC, but it is normal , i do not understand, perhaps they think if they paid me out earlier they did me a favor
    i had these 2 withdrawals in my lost account (lost account + email password, account cant be recovered anymore), i mentioned them only because they were charged with 0.5 % fee, against my last 2 withdrawals in my new account wont charged

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    sbrzol
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    nothing happened and nothing will happen

    here are my two topic


    real story : how bitcoincasinopro handling issues https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309060.0

    bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300044.0

    so bitcoincasinopro only assisted to bitcoinlivebets to steal all my winnings : 30 BTC

    It is obviously for a 10 years old child, who could use calculator that here is something wrong. (bitcoinlivebets added a fake bet to my account with stake 29,601 BTC, while they max limit is only 3 BTC)
    http://www46.zippyshare.com/d/824564...nthistory.xlsx

    after assisting for this robbery bitcoincasinopro upgraded bitcoinlivebets from C to B

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    bro noone gives a shiizle what happend in your sketchy little bitcoin book, besides its obvious your bet lost.

  10. #10
    sbrzol
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    bitcoinlivebets disappeared

    Last year bitcoinlivebets stealing all my winnings (30 BTC) but almost nobody believed for my words.


    I warned everybody more times not to play on there site.


    if you click on bitcoinlivebets at bitcointalk.org you can see:





    if you click on trust there is my topic too behind the reference link:





    I was sure that they will disappear sooner or later. ( i said 1-3 month on March 09, 2014, 10:45:05 PM )


    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?to...396#msg5612396
    ” bitcoinlivebets.com will disappear within 1-3 month after some big players with big balances try to withdrawal all their funds and only some of them will get it before the site closing.”


    i opened at least 6 topics :


    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300044 bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=312080 arbs/middles between bitcoinlivebets and other sites
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309060 real story : how bitcoincasinopro handling issues
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...tc-3600-a.html
    http://www.bookmakersforum.com/bookm...30btc-3600/264


    i wrote (private) messages about this issue to all bitcoin sports books (at bitcointalkorg), but they do nothing and to top it all bitcoincasinopro contribute to bitcoinlivebets
    stealing.
    http://bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/...substantiated/


    It is obviously for a 10 years old child, who could use calculator that bitcoinlivebets added a fake bet (above 10 times more stake than the max. 3 BTC) to my account to
    http://www25.zippyshare.com/d/263423...nthistory.xlsx
    (the old links does not work)

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    Do your research with any bitcoin type of site

    A lot of scams out there

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