[lecubs28]

football season coming up and i'm looking at which books i'll be playing at this fall. here's my list:

4 books to hit:

betonline - been in business for years lots of betting options great software great 50% freeplay bonus right now

betusa - one of the biggest players in the offshore industry. great software good customer service

5dimes - can't be beat in terms of betting options. dependable out. watch out for tony and you'll be okay

topbet - underrated book most people don't know about. they don't take big bets but for a rec player they offer a 50% cash bonus, one free payout per month. they paid me several times throughout the past year.

3 books to miss:

heritage sports - customer service has really slipped at this book and it seems like everyday they take something away from the player. dealing dual lines, no free payouts, they took away my cashback

betphoenix - low limits poor options terrible customer service slow and expensive payouts

bookmaker/betdsi - ridiculous payout fees, 20c mlb lines, this book is past its prime

[mrpooh]

the books should be reversed, you have no clue, idiot

[unluckysob]

5ds and heritage meets all my needs.

[tto827]

DSI has 10c baseball lines Dunno why you and everyone else thinks different.

Anyone who gambles a decent amount ($50-$100 per game) can use bet points to get free cashouts quite frequently.

It's not 5dimes, but the contests and good CS still make it a solid out.

[jjgold]

Carib- solid old school pioneer book, pays great good lines, great rep, solid customer service, like the software

Bookmaker- same but higher limits, software ok but gets clunky

5 Dimes..tons of betting options, always had great rep, software ok, customer service ok

betonline is ok but slow pays are a deterrent
heritage ok but cannot handle big customer base
betphoenix..who knows ..C book IMO

[RichardGeorge]

Heritage has 1 free payout per 30 days

[bobbywaves]

DSI has 10c baseball lines Dunno why you and everyone else thinks different.

Anyone who gambles a decent amount ($50-$100 per game) can use bet points to get free cashouts quite frequently.

It's not 5dimes, but the contests and good CS still make it a solid out.

In addition to DSI dime lines, if you use their free payout method it only costs $11 to withdraw $2,400. Which is obviously quite reasonable, OP is clueless.

[temple2010]

Post something that makes sense!!

[Slimpickens]

What about betonline payout fees? Pretty sure they are just as bad as dsi if not worse.

[bobbywaves]

Not to mention betonline has well documented slow pays.

[Itsamazing777]

Bovada pays fast

[vegasinfom]

Should add on .... YOUWAGER

[dark star]

Betpop,Alliance,Carib are 3 good ones to have

[Bandito97]

BetUSA is a garbage book that is part of the Jazette family of garbage books.

[lecubs28]

DSI has 10c baseball lines Dunno why you and everyone else thinks different.

Anyone who gambles a decent amount ($50-$100 per game) can use bet points to get free cashouts quite frequently.

It's not 5dimes, but the contests and good CS still make it a solid out.

except that betdsi took away my 10c baseball lines when they found out i'm not a degenerate loser. oh and they took away my betpoints too.

Heritage has 1 free payout per 30 days

oh except that heritage took away my free payouts when they found out i'm not a degenerate loser

In addition to DSI dime lines, if you use their free payout method it only costs $11 to withdraw $2,400. Which is obviously quite reasonable, OP is clueless.

i'd like to hear more about this? how do i request this free payout?

What about betonline payout fees? Pretty sure they are just as bad as dsi if not worse.

betonline offers a $50 payout discount once a month on friday mornings. so i haven't paid for any of the payouts i've received from them. i think they'll send $2,500 to your house in a week's time and that will be free.

Not to mention betonline has well documented slow pays.

is there a non-euro book that doesn't slowpay? oh right betislands used to not slowpay for a while i guess

Should add on .... YOUWAGER

youwager is a good book it could have made the list except i think their marketing tactics are too aggressive

[KC]

NO way Heritage should be on any negative list..class operation, so good they don't even risk taking on new clients

[robmpink]

Didn't betusa rip a player off big time who hit a progressive let it ride jackpot? This was like 6 years ago.

[bobbywaves]

[QUOTE=lecubs28;19336818]i'd like to hear more about this? how do i request this free payout?[QUOTE]

Ummmm.....You contact DSI & request it.

[bobbywaves]

Reward Levels:

There are three tier levels within the BetPoints™ Rewards Program, Gold, Platinum, and Diamond. You will receive distinctive benefits and privileges with each tier.

• Gold Reward Level
• Platinum Reward Level
• Diamond Reward Level

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Benefits You Will Earn:

For every re-load of $300 or more receive:

• 10% free play deposit bonus* (3 time rollover required, max bonus awarded $500)
• All depositing fees reimbursed
• 1 FREE DC payout per month (30 day period) (must be $300 or more)

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From 30,000 to 299,999 BetPoints™: After earning 30,000 BetPoints™ in a 12 month period, your account will be moved to the Platinum level of the rewards program.
Benefits You Will Earn:

For every re-load of $300 or more receive:

• 10% free play deposit bonus*(3 time rollover required, max bonus awarded $750)
• All depositing fees reimbursed

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• 1 FREE Debit payout per month (30 day period) (must be $300 or more).
• And your BetPoints™ earn you 10% more than Gold Level

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From 300,000 and up: After earning 300,000 BetPoints™ in a 12 month period, your account will be moved to the Diamond level of the rewards program.
Benefits You Will Earn:

For every re-load of $300 or more receive:

• 15% free play deposit bonus*(5 time rollover required, max bonus awarded $3000)
• All depositing fees reimbursed

Plus, Diamond Members also get:

• Access to 24/7 dedicated VIP customer service representatives with special toll free number.
• 2 FREE Debit payout per month (30 day period) (must be $300 or more)
• And your BetPoints™ earn you 10% more than Platinum Level.

*Basic free play rules apply.

[bobbywaves]

My DSI balance is getting up there as well, may withdraw soon. But if I withdraw now, I won't be eligible for the 100% football promo they have every year. You have to wait 30 days after a withdraw, to be eligible for any bonus.

[lecubs28]

thanks for that bobbywaves. my earlier post got deleted i guess for providing too much detail. but betdsi took away my betpoints and won't offer me free payouts because i won too much money from them (about 15k) so i am stuck paying $60 for every $2500. those are pretty high fees to me. i guess you could just be a losing gambler and get free payouts but that will probably cost more in the long run

[bobbywaves]

The betpoints have nothing to do with getting the dc, DSI can't deny you this. Worst case scenario is you pay DSI $20 for the $2,500 withdrawal, if they had taken away your free payout(s). Including the dc fees I mentioned in deleted post, withdrawal will cost you $31 total. Still a 50% savings.

[byronbb]

OP got $10 freeplays at betonline, topbet, and betusa for this post.

[5mike5]

Yeah cause those sure aren't close to the top books. Lol

[pologq]

for variety 5 dimes has to be there. youwager is there for me. marketing is agressive but as long as you keep a little money in there they don't seem to chase you down.

[lecubs28]

OP got $10 freeplays at betonline, topbet, and betusa for this post.

Yeah cause those sure aren't close to the top books. Lol

combined 25k posts and 500 betpoints

keep up the good work team brokedikk fukk! please, tell us where we should be playing so we can be degenerate losers like you

[capitalist pig]

NO way Heritage should be on any negative list..class operation, so good they don't even risk taking on new clients

What he said.

later

[5mike5]

like i care about how many betpoints i have

ur clueless

[pologq]

as a small gambler i do like youwager's loyalty points and their calendar promos. they are giving $75 calendar promo on september 8th with the option to spin the wheel. i think sept 1st is a $25 calendar promo too.

[lecubs28]

What he said.

later

do you know what dual lines are?

[smartyjones]

heritage is a worthless out to a serious bettor, but bkmaker/DSI you are wrong buddy.

[looneytunes]

heritage is a worthless out to a serious bettor, but bkmaker/DSI you are wrong buddy.

But wagerweb is something you would consider? you cant be serious

[bobbywaves]

heritage is a worthless out to a serious bettor, but bkmaker/DSI you are wrong buddy.

I'm a serious bettor & Heritage isn't worthless, sometimes they will have the best line of all my 5 outs. I concur BM & DSI are solid outs, as they are in my arsenal.

[lecubs28]

okay i am revising my list

bookmaker/betdsi is off the block. i wouldn't recommend them as a top book, and i'd say go with bookmaker over betdsi, but these guys are reliable and you know they're not going to fold.

replace them with wagerweb. would not want money tied up with these dickheads

[william.penfield]

football season coming up and i'm looking at which books i'll be playing at this fall. here's my list:

4 books to hit:

betonline - been in business for years lots of betting options great software great 50% freeplay bonus right now

betusa - one of the biggest players in the offshore industry. great software good customer service

5dimes - can't be beat in terms of betting options. dependable out. watch out for tony and you'll be okay

topbet - underrated book most people don't know about. they don't take big bets but for a rec player they offer a 50% cash bonus, one free payout per month. they paid me several times throughout the past year.

3 books to miss:

heritage sports - customer service has really slipped at this book and it seems like everyday they take something away from the player. dealing dual lines, no free payouts, they took away my cashback

betphoenix - low limits poor options terrible customer service slow and expensive payouts

bookmaker/betdsi - ridiculous payout fees, 20c mlb lines, this book is past its prime

Heritage customer service has been great with me. I was unaware of the free deposit rule they have (forgot how many are free but that's besides the point). Once I realized it, I emailed them asking if they would recoup my fees and they did without any questions asked. I have been with them for nearly a year and have zero complaints. Great book.