I joined they gave me 247 dollar cash no deposit with 1000 max cash out. I never could get a straight answer on any question. Live chat is useless. There lines are horrid and it took them 20 hours to grade some horse wagers. The whole baseball counts half on rollover is dumb. I am not sure how they can give out 247 dollar cash no deposit freeplays and 100 percent cash bonuses and not be hurting. I lost that and thought about depositing but last weekend there site when down and that scared me off. Payout times on p2p are unacceptable to me