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    sborelli
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    Sportsbook.com Blackjack SCAM

    Hello all I have playing with this casino for too long now and I am hoping from my stupidity I can save others $$. Stay away from the Blackjack on this site. I have played it over a long time unfortunatly and I never learned my lesson. The game software is completly rigged beleive me. It pulls 20-21's 90% of the time if you have a good hand. Break forget about it the dealer will hardly every break with a break card hand. However, if you the player has a 12-13 etc. you will be dealt a break card 90% of the time guaranteed. I am completly convinced this game is totally fixed. I know from overtime playing this many hands how many times it will beat you. It will hardly ever I am talking ever give you 2 winning hands in a row and if you lay down a larger bet forget about it your going down fast. It wins all the time its unreal. So fellow players stay away from this book and take it from me stay away.

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    Illusion
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    Most online casinos are rigged that way. I played at Pinnacle's casino and they seem to be the fairest.

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    onlooker
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    I understand your feelings, but was there really a need to post this in three different forums?

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    Ya sorry your right should not have posted it in three forums. I guess was hoping to let as many people be warned as I could. It is totally rigged man beleive me it is. Not just a disgruntal gambler.

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    Illusion
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    I'll delete the other ones for you.

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    all these casnios have gotta be very gapped, the best advice i or, anyone can give you is stay away.

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    onlooker
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    If you want to play these games , play them live if you can. Dont let some software thats programmed to beat you, frustrate you .

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    it's like the old video poker machines. those old boards would let you set them to pay off as low as 70% and, if you tweeked it a little you could get it to pay out at a little bit less than a 35% clip.

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    real casino's here in Reno are hard enough to beat, I can't imagine trying to beat a rigged online game...I agree, stay far away...

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    Idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slash
    Idiots.
    I couldn't agree more. People who play online casino have zero brain. :+firework

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    People who play casinos without bonuses/cash back incentives have zero brain. They are the losers.

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    even intercasino seems to be rigged imo...and its the only one i play.
    The streaks just aint normal, the funny thing is that sometimes your own winning streaks are way off too...the only thing that keeps me playing there prolly. (with the bonus only of course)

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    Quote Originally Posted by slash
    People who play casinos without bonuses/cash back incentives have zero brain. They are the losers.
    Just like betting sports without an edge, lot of people do it for recreation. Is certainly not my thing, but some people do enjoy it.

    That said when people lose they inevitably complain that it was fixed. While most online casinos are "fixed" in the sense that they are going to make money no matter what, it is easy to cry fowl when one loses.

    Think about if the results of sporting events were controlled someone by software. Instead of bad beat threads, we would have threads about fixed outcomes. People generally need to justify their losses as not being their responsibility, this is one way to do it.

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    Does not everything at sportsbook.com have an angle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerfan
    That said when people lose they inevitably complain that it was fixed. While most online casinos are "fixed" in the sense that they are going to make money no matter what, it is easy to cry fowl when one loses.

    Think about if the results of sporting events were controlled someone by software. Instead of bad beat threads, we would have threads about fixed outcomes. People generally need to justify their losses as not being their responsibility, this is one way to do it.
    Top post.

    All casino games are fixed in so far as the rules of the games always ensure that the casino wins by virtue of the house edge. Any losses above that is due to variance which is a concept which a lot of people can't get their head round.

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    Its always an opinion thing ... near impossible to prove because the smart ones will cheat sometimes and not other times .... and it can all be put down to 'variance'.

    I think the wizardofodds did a good job nailing casino bar and casino air as cheats.

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    I've only played BJ 3x at sportsbook.com's sister sites. PLayed twice at allpro.com and won, and played once at playersonly and won. If anything I thought it was rigged for me to win (which could have been the case, since they were running casino promos those days). But I fin it interesting that Illusion has had good experience with pinnacle casino. If you check plyaer reviews, you'll see a couple of players who swear that pinnacle BJ is also fixed. From my own personal experience, and observation it seems that most of these games are designed to be very streaky. Your either constanly winning or constantly losing. I'm not really sure how important it is to use perfect strategy. Seems like the computer has already decided whther you will win or lose, doens't matter whether you hit or not.

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    marc, i've read poster post where $10,$45,85, were key numbers to watch for, when playing in there casinos. don't really know what that means because, i don't play online casinos at all. but, there were 3 posts over at the rx that mentioned that from what i can remember over the years.

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    I play at online casinos quite a bit. Never played at one through a sportsbook but I get monthly promotions from top casinos and use them almost every month.

    These stories of rigged softwares are posted every now and then. It comes from those cards the dealer gets when you double down on 10 or 11 vs 5 or 6. Also comes from big losses. Same stories I hear from people at land-based casinos who can't believe Black has come out 8 times in a row.

    I didn't keep every single BJ session I've had but I know that this is one game I've profited from. Video Poker is another. Of course, I end up putting it all back in the slots, lol

    I remember one operator who mentioned the fact that players tend to raise their bets when they're on a winning streak when, in fact, they'd have more chances raising after 8-10 straight lost hands. That's one way to look at it. But the main thing is, the house has the edge. If you try to beat those odds, you're on your own. If you win, good for you. If you lose, don't blame the casino, the software or your neighbor.

    Max

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Levine (emphasis added)
    one operator ... mentioned the fact that players tend to raise their bets when they're on a winning streak when, in fact, they'd have more chances raising after 8-10 straight lost hands
    The bolded part of the above statement is simply untrue. It's the quintessence of the gambler's fallacy.
    Last edited by ganchrow; 11-01-05 at 09:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan
    marc, i've read poster post where $10,$45,85, were key numbers to watch for, when playing in there casinos. don't really know what that means because, i don't play online casinos at all. but, there were 3 posts over at the rx that mentioned that from what i can remember over the years.
    OMG!! Please stop... PLEASE!!!

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    Stay away from the sportsbook.com group. That's all I can say at this time. Within a few weeks I will expose them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronald
    Stay away from the sportsbook.com group. them.
    Why ? Are they rogue ?

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    halifax...they are a big and well-known book, but they are not run very well at all...I'd defnitely stay away...

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    sportsbook.com has a "C" rating here at SBR, so there are much worse books than them out there. my advice as always is find a nice rated book you feel confortable playing with. i know it's a bullshit type answer but, why take chances playing elsewhere and, risk any problems.

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    Ronald,

    If I can help, let me know. pm me, or send me an email to marc@sportsbookreview.com

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    Sportsbook.com's rating is very generous in my opinion. They are a D at best.

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    yeah, I wouldn't even give them a C rating...like Illusion said, D is more like it...they have some money which may sway people's view on them, but they are a scam book for sure...I have definite personal experience...

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    boom

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    roasted

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    f\*g bumo

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan View Post
    marc, i've read poster post where $10,$45,85, were key numbers to watch for, when playing in there casinos. don't really know what that means because, i don't play online casinos at all. but, there were 3 posts over at the rx that mentioned that from what i can remember over the years.

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    play the live version or not at all

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    agreed

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