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    My 2 cents about BetRevolution

    1st why would anyone have such a balance with them, they are a rec book. Unless they were trying to get over on them. They have limited payout options. I like what Tony said about BetIslands it applies here. I keep no more than 2 grand there ever. Should they get paid.. Who knows and cares. If you want to win big play at the known books....Case Closed.. And I will keep playing @ BetRevolution. And I know the risk._&&

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    Check out the rx thread i started when they rolled me for prize money with some bs fine print. over in that thread some cowboy dipshit was talking about keeping 5 digits there. smart.

    or dont.

    apologies accepted, btw.

    from the rx thread:

    PO69 "Kid, this book paid out of $9000 to me over the past 3 months NO PROBLEMS AT ALL! And I completed a 20x rollover "

    Dumbasses get what dumbasses deserve.
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    I'm in your same shoes, not a problem with them and you will not find a payment or customer service complaint anywhere about them. Most sharks on this forums need to keep their way of life going, so when a group of them is killed on crossfire, they need to jump in.

    I hope SBR did something when BetIslands went down killed by all these sharks, steamers, etc under their excuse of "pay them" and boot them.

    Disregarding their position, since they open their "report" on BR with the word "Scam" on the title it was clear they had one thing in mind. Doing that put BRev on a position where even considering negotiating with them will be not right. I dont think Lou even considered the players funds while typing his "report".

    When any investigation was done on BOL or any other sponsor book, it never started with those words. It is not me making it out, simply review all previous reports, it is easy to spot the way it works.

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    nah, SBR started by seeking clarification. BetRev then responded with some of the most ridiculous stat analysis ever. BetRev failed to show that these are anything but regular guys who have fulltime, regular jobs and share similar views on how to try and win at sportsbetting in their hobby time. It was piss poor analysis and piss poor social networking snooping by a group bad at running a sportsbook that was seeking confirmation bias that it wasn't their fault for being asleep at the wheel.

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    It seems you have an inside scoop on the situation, because SBR never said anything on their SBR Report about negotiating, do you think it was on the best interest of the players to go ahead and hit the company without further do?

    Now what part was the poor part of the analysis? if there are holes on it, I will assume SBR will ask for them, but i dont think they went that far, based on the emails it was just a straight "let me show you how big is my dick". If they are like you and SBR went ahead and state all the things they need to give value to the report I will say they even consider doing some real investigation.

    It was just poorly managed all around by SBR, I think BR wanted to find out what was asked to the players, by looking at the questions they asked on their last email or if there was something missing, but SBR answer was simply to Report with "SCAM" on the title. Again, no interest on the players involved. Just to push something out to show them how good they are for the forum.

    You can say they didnt need anything else, but if the book was still talking, why they hit the trigger and entertain their questions?

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    ^^^ all your posts make you sound like a represenative for br. Just sayin

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    Quote Originally Posted by combination lock View Post
    ^^^ all your posts make you sound like a represenative for br. Just sayin
    He's just a player but u haven't been here long enough to even know that, not sure why u posted this then.
    Im sure Eric is just as surprised and concerned as i am just like the rest of the people who use or have used this book. Up until now there hasn't been an issue with BR.

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    JUST A CASE of aggresive bonus hunting gone wrong. increase your balance to 21K and you can get a wire in a dat at youwager.

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    In a perfect world, it would be EricVivar getting scammed by BetRevolution. Sharing picks with your friends is an absolute non-issue but trying to circumvent betting maximums is. Does BetRevolution have any concrete proof that the players in question aren't playing with their own funds (Player A sends money to Players B, C and D to fund their own BetRevolution accounts so Player A can circumvent BR's betting limits?). Even if this did take place, the industry standard is for the book to pay and then boot. Now if Player A gets booted but goes ahead and opens up new accounts using different names/addresses, then BR would have a decent case of not paying Player A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andywend View Post
    In a perfect world, it would be EricVivar getting scammed by BetRevolution. Sharing picks with your friends is an absolute non-issue but trying to circumvent betting maximums is. Does BetRevolution have any concrete proof that the players in question aren't playing with their own funds (Player A sends money to Players B, C and D to fund their own BetRevolution accounts so Player A can circumvent BR's betting limits?). Even if this did take place, the industry standard is for the book to pay and then boot. Now if Player A gets booted but goes ahead and opens up new accounts using different names/addresses, then BR would have a decent case of not paying Player A.
    Ok so what is the industry standard for when someone multi-accounts with his friends accounts because that's what is written all on this or that's my take from what i have read? Not only does that but gets caught red handed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legions36 View Post
    Ok so what is the industry standard for when someone multi-accounts with his friends accounts because that's what is written all on this or that's my take from what i have read? Not only does that but gets caught red handed.
    wrong take - this isn't multi-accounting. These are separate recreational bettors. BetRev could have actually tried to talk to the named individuals concurrently and asked them some general questions about sportsbetting and the lines they bet. They would've found separate, recreational bettors and not multi-accounts or beards of one player. BetRev used slip-shoddy methods that failed to discount the most obvious take, "buddies sharing picks".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine Stoop View Post
    wrong take - this isn't multi-accounting. These are separate recreational bettors.
    Yeah sure it isn't. Its 1 person using multiple accounts man, from his friends that's why they got caught because when 1 account would find a good bet then they would log in with the other account with another computer and proxy to place the same bet so many times. Go back and read the report if u don't think this is true. I can't say 100% this is right but why else would they have so many login attempts and same bets within minutes. Its really not that hard to put all this together.

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    your explanation doesn't discount "buddies sharing picks".

    And, yes, I'm sure this isn't beards or multi-accounting. I'm sure these are separate individuals betting out of their own rolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine Stoop View Post
    your explanation doesn't discount "buddies sharing picks".

    And, yes, I'm sure this isn't beards or multi-accounting. I'm sure these are separate individuals betting out of their own rolls.
    No it doesn't but im just thinking logical and if it was buddies sharing picks then the picks would be more evenly spread out and no need for a proxie. Also have u seen anyone here other than Bishop posting? because i haven't.

    I'm also looking at how i have been treated by this book and they are one of those places that go out of there way to make customers happy, so that has to have some kind of merit here. Not saying i agree with the outcome but....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legions36 View Post
    No it doesn't but im just thinking logical and if it was buddies sharing picks then the picks would be more evenly spread out and no need for a proxie. Also have u seen anyone here other than Bishop posting? because i haven't.

    I'm also looking at how i have been treated by this book and they are one of those places that go out of there way to make customers happy, so that has to have some kind of merit here. Not saying i agree with the outcome but....
    The players stolen from say they followed a guy on 2p2. Go to 2p2 and you'll see the players stolen from have accounts there for years where they've posted often. This is not multi-accounting or bearding. This is two separate individuals who approach sportsbetting the same way.

    You're doing about as much half-assed research as BetRev did as you are just trying to confirm their opinion as they were just searching for anyway to steal from winners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine Stoop View Post
    The players stolen from say they followed a guy on 2p2. Go to 2p2 and you'll see the players stolen from have accounts there for years where they've posted often. This is not multi-accounting or bearding. This is two separate individuals who approach sportsbetting the same way.

    You're doing about as much half-assed research as BetRev did as you are just trying to confirm their opinion as they were just searching for anyway to steal from winners.
    Your not gonna convince me that these guys r innocent and did nothing wrong. I have them as an out and i have always been paid on time from them without any hassle. So for u to rule out that there was no wrong doing is just crazy.
    So according to u because i didn't read some thread on 2+2 that i didn't know about i didn't do my research. Get a life man and stop thinking people aren't capable of scamming or multi accounting because u would be surprised as too how far people will go.

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    How come BetRev won't give the players their betting histories?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine Stoop View Post
    How come BetRev won't give the players their betting histories?
    Why r u asking me why don't u ask SBR. Just wait and see how this plays out, your ruling everything out and just thinking this book is taking shots at players which is completely wrong. This is 1 issue with this book and from what i know from experience and from other posters, everyone seems to be real happy with them including myself.
    Stop jumping the gun and thinking they just made this whole story up.

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    I'm not jumping the gun. It's a book stealing almost $30k. That outweighs just about everything good they did. It's easy to be nice to gamblers who are losers. It's tougher to accept that there are winning bettors out there.


    Bet Rev's whole investigation revealed two experienced but recreational guys who approach sportsbetting from similar points of view (given the forums they post on and posts on those) won on some of the same bets. Though, the similarities couldn't be too much with one guy profiting ~$3k and the other over $20k. Somehow, BR jumps to a syndicate (getting down a whopping $500 to $2k per game if all accounts were linked).
    BetRev is the ones who jumped the gun rather than admit they might have just lost to experienced sports bettors.
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