they do have a long history of offering huge bonuses, fast pay, quick to limit and close accounts WITH prompt payment. so yeah I guess you can give away the house and be stand up with that criteria.
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03-28-13 10:58 PM #36
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03-28-13 11:30 PM #37
Originally Posted by Hankwins
their payout isnt that fast. yeah, maybe if it's a few hundreds. but last year when they closed my acct, i had over 4k and they took forever to pay me in increments. i didn't mind because i was getting a weekly payout. it took like 6 or 7 weeks to get the complete amount.
griffin might be a good guy and a stand up guy, but he's not the financial backer. to me, their whole brand of business is too shady. from the owner's history...to creating sites that are similar to established sportsbooks, or having posters put their logo as avatar on SBR.
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03-29-13 12:26 AM #38
I'm not saying they are a #1 book out there. I am saying the fact that I recently had a mix up with George over there, and Griffin knew this, he extended me a nicer offer on my behalf because of the previous mix up. That is what I consider 'stand-up'. Griffin could have taken the path where he just didn't give a fuk. But he didn't, he did what any bussinessman who knows how to run a bussiness would do. All I'm saying.
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03-29-13 09:43 AM #39
Griffin is as solid as they come..the book itself, I don't know.
Would I play there..yes, if I wanted a nice bonus that came with moderate risk.
Its all about the risk you can stand..want no risk, go to vegas-move to UK or Ireland.
If you can stand some-heritage, 5d and bookmaker are fine.
Willing to move up a notch..1v and many others will dangle a big bonus...just like BI did and Phoenix group used to...sometimes you get burned, sometimes they right the ship before it sinks.
Bottom line...not many independent guys left out there, just watch who you trust and their other dealings.
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03-29-13 11:57 AM #40
Sounds like liquidity issues, wouldnt want to have much there going into baseball. Originally Posted by Courtesywipe
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03-29-13 01:42 PM #41
LonneyTunes, how does, the below statement, sound like liquidity issues...
"I am no longer related to vice or the RDG corp. Im running another book which I wont mention in here to avoid breaking any forum rules."
George D , had an opportunity to move on to a new project, which gave him more control, and make more money. While he was with with VICE / RDGcorp, was a great person to work with, and he will be missed.
RDG Corp Sportsbooks has not had a meaningful dispute submitted against them since thier inception
RDG Corp Sportsbooks has been open to discussing player disputes with SBR, shown the ability to effectively perform risk management and has revamped their business model.
The Bookie
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03-29-13 03:55 PM #42
I think there is no need to try to open up the 'closed minded'. I would say, until these people actually play at 1V, they just are not gonna get the real picture. They go by what they here on the forums and by what SBR has ranked 1v with 'D+'. But in the end all that matters is dot they pay?. Big bonuses, little bonuses, no bonuses, etc..............Not of that means Jack if you dont pay. And by the chat on numerous forums..... there hasnt been one complaining poster for failure to collect their funds. I will remain a 1V customer until the day that I dont get paid.
Originally Posted by thebookie
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03-29-13 04:03 PM #43
Appears to be direct correlation between large bonuses and memory loss
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03-29-13 04:45 PM #44
Originally Posted by looneytunes
I am a Nigerian Prince and my royal family has a sportbook in Nigeria. The government has seized our reserve but if you send me a deposit of $500 I will give you a 150% bonus.... plus an extra $10... Even better my friend, if you send me $2000 I will give you a 200% bonus and 2% of the book. Quick, send me your CC number name and address as well as your social security number so you can own part of the Nigerian Roual SPortsBook... do not forhet your phone number and email address. We promise not to sell the list on Nigerian honor...
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03-29-13 04:53 PM #45
Schilling is one thing, mentioning your new book another.... so spit it out George. What is the new book.... Originally Posted by George.D
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03-29-13 04:59 PM #46
PS.... you heard it hear first folks... George is no longer with OV.... from the horses mouth himself. Wonder whats really going on for a principle to pull out so soon from a startup, only a year out the gates. Come on George, what gives. No reserve and no deposits to pay you your end or what. SPILL...
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03-29-13 06:17 PM #47
So Mr. Touch, I guess you believe my original statement now in regards to George leaving. You thought i was full of shit. And with your other replies located above on this thread, you are not a fan for taking the larger bonuses. Did I analyze that right? Originally Posted by touchback
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03-29-13 06:37 PM #48
Yes.... larger bonuses are mathematically unsound.... buyer beware. Also, it is not that I did not believe you it is just that I was looking for additional backup on such an extraordinary event... it is considered to be a very short amount of time for a principle to pull out in this biz... nothing personal Courtesy. But yes, you were he first to know so Kudos to you...
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03-29-13 06:41 PM #49
So just one final question in regards to the topic of depositing with large bonuses. Would it be safe to say that you do not or would not play at 1 V?
Originally Posted by touchback
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03-29-13 06:43 PM #50
I would for a hundred... shits and giggles....
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03-29-13 07:15 PM #51
If all you have is 100 and dont plan on winning , its a great out. Guy named Patrick keeps calling and emailing, seems they stole my info from another book I play at. $50 limits, come on. With Baseball around the corner I'm sure they will be limiting there exposure even more. Doesn't look real appealing from where I sit.
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03-29-13 08:14 PM #52
I have nothing but good things to say about Griffin, Zack and vice overall, I will always be in debt to them. It is a great book for guys that will get some of the biggest bonuses in the industry, fast payouts and quality customer service. If you start winning you will get the boot but everyone will always get paid. (one vice)
I have 100% managing control on this new venture and that alone was enough reason for me to take advantage of this opportunity. It`s *******.com and the rules and promos will be very similar to the vice offers.
Originally Posted by touchback
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03-29-13 08:16 PM #53
lol even though Im not part of the RDG corp or vice anymore the new book`s name was banned too even though its not even rated. Anyhow its ******** . com
Originally Posted by George.D
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03-29-13 08:17 PM #54
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03-29-13 09:44 PM #55
Nevermind, i see it isn't under the same family
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03-29-13 10:27 PM #56
Or, if deemed necessary, ******* reserves the right to limit a member’s play size or revoke the agreement between the member and *******. Reasons for limitation of plays or revocation of agreement are detailed below:
- Betting Syndicates: HRWAGERreserves the right to limit or exclude any player who attempts to defraud the house either on his/her own or in collusion with other players or other sportsbooks.
Other sanctions could include:
- Administration fees
- Refusal of payouts
wtf, refusal of payouts if you win?
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03-30-13 01:36 PM #57
George, there is so much icing on that cake I think I got 5 cavities... come on. More management control over a new service. Means you did not agree with how the shop was being run with bad decisions and or you were not getting paid what you think you were worth. What, you scared of Griffin, HAHAHAH... or M\*\*\*\*\*\*.... HAHAHAHAH, come on give us something and not high in empty calories...
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03-30-13 01:37 PM #58
BULLSSHIT... I meant ** FA IL
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03-30-13 01:39 PM #59
ok... maybe brail or morse code will work... Man Can Forget About Ironic Laughs
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