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    SBR is a complete JOKE! please discontinue my account!!

    I made decisions to deposit at BI because of SBRs guidance. SBR has done me wrong and I won't be back.

    penetrate you SBR

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    You were one of BI's biggest advocates. Can understand your frustration. But who knows what SBR"s culpability is in this fiasco. GL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
    You were one of BI's biggest advocates. Can understand your frustration. But who knows what SBR"s culpability is in this fiasco. GL.

    really? then this doucebag has no reason to bitch, people that advocated for betislands should eat crow and stfu

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsMushroom View Post
    really? then this doucebag has no reason to bitch, people that advocated for betislands should eat crow and stfu
    Hey man I thought they were a legit shop as well. Never posted up at BI because there were better shops with more options and superior race books. But cut the guy a break. How was any player to know BI was a fraud in the end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
    You were one of BI's biggest advocates. Can understand your frustration. But who knows what SBR"s culpability is in this fiasco. GL.
    A lot of the people posting now are the ones that thought BI was underrated before, and helped vote them #5 in the last poster's poll, ahead of A+ books even. A lot of sites want to be the first to make a declaration, even if it's just a cheesy copy and paste job of posts with no real insight as they weren't the ones on the ground trying to get answers, just like many networks want to be the first to report a story, but the truth is SBR took action as soon it became clear BetIslands was unable to keep its word with its own player payout time-frames. That's not what people that prefer to cope with a loss by levying blame want to hear, but it's the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Lou View Post
    A lot of the people posting now are the ones that thought BI was underrated before, and helped vote them #5 in the last poster's poll, ahead of A+ books even. A lot of sites want to be the first to make a declaration, even if it's just a cheesy copy and paste job of posts with no real insight as they weren't the ones on the ground trying to get answers, just like many networks want to be the first to report a story, but the truth is SBR took action as soon it became clear BetIslands was unable to keep its word with its own player payout time-frames. That's not what people that prefer to cope with a loss by levying blame want to hear, but it's the truth.
    Lmao.. What a joke
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Lou View Post

    but the truth is SBR took action as soon it became clear BetIslands was unable to keep its word with its own player payout time-frames.

    why ?

    why would you say that today ? You have stirred a pile of shit

    no one believes you and for good reason

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    What exactly in Lou's post is a joke firedawg? I hate comparing the two, but the thread regarding the Connecticut shooting. We were all hammering the news agencies for not having 100% verified fact before reporting to the public. From what I've seen, no other site said BI was done and gone any period of time before SBR, they may have stated they were having issues, but the articles hating on SBR are only coming out now. Many SBR pros would have been gone as stating BI issues would have cut off any chance of a turn around for BI, hopefully with all the threads stating that people weren't getting paid you did not continue to deposit there. The only people claiming they were secure were Jon, and SBR stating that BI had told them they were okay, basically BI said they were fine, otherwise there were no positive reviews since probably the beginning of December.

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    tto , if Lou is telling the truth he & SBR are the only ones in CR who found-out on Tuesday BI was in the shitter

    BI was a "B" book last Monday

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    1. Pinnacle
    2. Betfair
    3. 5Dimes

    Unfortunately, these results are going to be skewed, since I assume SBR is dealing with a predominately American userbase. There is no way possible that 5Dimes is better than pinnacle. And really, BetIslands, Heritage and legends outranking Betfair.

    What a joke of a poll this is.




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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Lou View Post
    A lot of the people posting now are the ones that thought BI was underrated before, and helped vote them #5 in the last poster's poll, ahead of A+ books even. A lot of sites want to be the first to make a declaration, even if it's just a cheesy copy and paste job of posts with no real insight as they weren't the ones on the ground trying to get answers, just like many networks want to be the first to report a story, but the truth is SBR took action as soon it became clear BetIslands was unable to keep its word with its own player payout time-frames. That's not what people that prefer to cope with a loss by levying blame want to hear, but it's the truth.
    Lou, a couple things are very wrong here.

    1. To put this on players in any way is wrong. I was one who was very high on BI during their rise. They paid super fast, offered great promos, and had superb CS. I am just like most here, just a regular person who trusted SBR's advice. There is NO WAY for someone like me or anyone else to know what was actually going on.

    Which leads me to my next point.

    2. To defend SBR in this situation is sickening. Your job as an indistry watchdog is to find out these things that I eluded to about how the book is really run. If this shop was being run on credit without segregated funds (clearly this is the case), its YOUR JOB to find that out. Not ours. Before bringing them on as an affiliate or raising their ratings so fast, these kinds of questions MUST be answered, REGARDLESS OF WHAT PEOPLE POST IN THE FORUMS. SBR failed miserably in their most simple of rules here, and thus they have no credibility anymore and offer nothing for US based players anymore.
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    Just don't log in again and post

    John has said before there is no reason to risk anything lower than an A book

    It is our own fault

    We, including me, also voted them top 5 above other A books even

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    Pauly , would you please stop with your bullshit

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    the nerve SBR brass has is unbelievable

    shame on u

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    tto , if Lou is telling the truth he & SBR are the only ones in CR who found-out on Tuesday BI was in the shitter

    BI was a "B" book last Monday
    Sammy, do you have know of who was the first to publish that BI was done and when? I'm curious, cause I hear everyone knew, but as far as I've seen, no one knew enough to put their name behind it, hence why SBR didn't screw over a paying advertiser until they were sure. John may be as guilty as Jon, who knows, I just won't make a conclusion until we see all the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    the nerve SBR brass has is unbelievable

    shame on u
    might as well slap the players i the face u helped stiff too

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Lou View Post
    A lot of the people posting now are the ones that thought BI was underrated before, and helped vote them #5 in the last poster's poll, ahead of A+ books even. A lot of sites want to be the first to make a declaration, even if it's just a cheesy copy and paste job of posts with no real insight as they weren't the ones on the ground trying to get answers, just like many networks want to be the first to report a story, but the truth is SBR took action as soon it became clear BetIslands was unable to keep its word with its own player payout time-frames. That's not what people that prefer to cope with a loss by levying blame want to hear, but it's the truth.
    LOL. What does the guy who lost 20K care that you took action after everything had already turned to shit? SBR could have started taking action today and the results would be the same.

    SBR members get mugged in front of a security guard (SBR) and the security guard wants a pat on the back for yelling at the mugger as he runs away. Priceless.
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    Doesn't even matter too me about Sbr,bet islands, or even youwagers crooked poker room... I'm done offshore period after this..... Bottom line it's all a penetrating scam...

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    tto , I do NOT believe SBR_John is as guilty as SSLP/Jon , not even close...

    However , SBR_John either knew for 100% surety BI was done before this past Tuesday or he is a deaf/blind dumbass.


    You choose which one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Pauly , would you please stop with your bullshit
    U R the King of bull shit sammy,

    sammy knows so

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    That said this "diasble my account" drama queen bs is getting old. If you want to leave then just stop posting, nobody cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    Doesn't even matter too me about Sbr,bet islands, or even youwagers crooked poker room... I'm done offshore period after this..... Bottom line it's all a penetrating scam...
    coming from a scamming POS


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    Lou,

    With all due respect - at minimum, SBR fell asleep at the wheel. When there was the 'transition' several weeks ago - SBR should have been digging to find out what was going on, and if player funds were at risk. Instead, you chose to ignore some of the red flags, and sweep them under the rug as processor and transition issues.

    SBR did not do its job. Plain and simple. I'm not looking to blame SBR for the downfall of BetIslands, but I can blame the navigator of the plane when it crashes into the mountain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    coming from a scamming POS

    Lmao... Enjoy your fees moving money in and out of costs rica..
    Also.... Go phuck yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    tto , I do NOT believe SBR_John is as guilty as SSLP/Jon , not even close...

    However , SBR_John either knew for 100% surety BI was done before this past Tuesday or he is a deaf/blind dumbass. You choose which one
    Until someone SHOWS (not tells) me that it was obvious that BI was done before Tuesday, I'll have to go with neither of those Sammy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tto827 View Post
    Until someone SHOWS (not tells) me that it was obvious that BI was done before Tuesday, I'll have to go with neither of those Sammy.
    There's proof all over the net.. Look it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post

    U R the King of bull shit sammy,

    Maybe but Sammy knows how to post without HTML

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    u have to be blind, deaf, and dumb to think they arent knee deep in blame

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStale View Post
    That said this "diasble my account" drama queen bs is getting old. If you want to leave then just stop posting, nobody cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    There's proof all over the net.. Look it up
    Everything I've come across states that BI was having issues, the same info you would have gotten from the 39649292 threads here stating that people were not getting paid. I didn't see anyone say BI was going out of business long before SBR did, my tune may definitely change if I find that, but I still have not.

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    gambling offshore is an illegal and sketchy situation

    its at your own risk with any book

    you should always be prepared for a book to close up and run or be seized

    same way you shouldn't expect a drug dealer to not rip you off or get arrested on the way to meet you

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