[gameplaylarry]

Threw $460 in for the 100% sportsbook, 50% casino bonus. Hit a nice hand in let it ride, and slowly intentionally nickel and dimed away at the 40X rollover and turned my $230 casino freeplay in to what I thought was going to be $205 cash, but then it immediately disappeared after I hit the rollover.

Was told over chat when I requested the bonus " The bonus is a 100% on deposits from $300 or more with a 10 times rollover on Deposit + Bonus and a 50% casino token up to $300 with a 40 times rollover on Casino Token winnings..."

and the bonus page says

"Sports bonus comes with a 10X Dep+Bonus Rollover and Casino token comes with a 40X Rollover."

No where from these two rules do I find anything that makes me think I should get $0 from this.

Over chat I was informed that somewhere hidden deep in their website, the most important term of the promotion says
"“• Once the rollover requirements are met, ONLY winnings from the bonus
will be credited as cash on players account.”



Now I'd be totally fine if I was told this over chat when I requested the bonus and they told me the terms, as I wouldn't intentionally nickel and dime away at the rollover, intending to finish with two or three hundred as I did, but I'm absolutely outraged by the fact that they intentionally hide this.

Anyways, I figured I'd post this as a warning, so no one else gets ****** over by them, since they certainly don't inform you of this rule. Probably doesn't happen much as it's pretty hard to meet the 40x rollover, so you can obviously imagine how pissed I was to waste three hours for nothing.

[BetDSI Relations]

gameplaylarry,

Send me an email to freeplay@betdsi.com so I can review your account.

Cordially,

BetDSI Relations

[GigaOuts]

This is sick! only people have time and knowledge to SBR forum can get a fair shake. People who have a busy life, not a hardcore gambler getting free roll by the site again and again.

Even if SBR came to rescue all the wrong doing by BetOnline, imagine all those that never came here for help. Some people just too busy or not worth their time to deal with book oversea of wrong doing. I think it is a general rule of thump is, the more complaints there is of the site, the shadier they are.

There is so many scummy site that sent out free $500 free play where you get to keep the winning within an hour of free play. They have the nerve to state, "that right $500 free cash for you to win as much as possible within 1 hour."

And of course you always win in that 1 hour but it is not actually $$$ but bonus money. You have to deposit real $$$ to clear those bonus $$$ you just won with ridiculous roll over and catches, too many scummy sites out there.

[Kindred]

It's a pretty standard "sticky" casino bonus and used by a ton of sites. DSI should make it clearer in the terms that the bonus isn't cashable.

Next time you get one, try to double or triple it quick, then grind out the rollover and cash out winnings. Don't bother with rollover until you make a big score.

[gameplaylarry]

It's a pretty standard "sticky" casino bonus and used by a ton of sites. DSI should make it clearer in the terms that the bonus isn't cashable.

Next time you get one, try to double or triple it quick, then grind out the rollover and cash out winnings. Don't bother with rollover until you make a big score.

For what it's worth, BetPhoenix told me (below) over live chat that they don't do it that way, so at the very least, it's not standard enough for someone to make the assumption that DSI does it how they do it. But regardless, you hit the nail in the head by saying that they should make the terms clearer. I would have absolutely no beef if the terms were easily accessible, and would have obviously done things differently in attacking the rollover.


my name: so say I start with $900, roll it over 55x or whatever the requirement is, and have $700 left. that turns in to cash, or it disappears because I haven't won anything above the bonus?

Tatiana: That turns in to cash

[Kindred]

For what it's worth, BetPhoenix told me (below) over live chat that they don't do it that way, so at the very least, it's not standard enough for someone to make the assumption that DSI does it how they do it. But regardless, you hit the nail in the head by saying that they should make the terms clearer. I would have absolutely no beef if the terms were easily accessible, and would have obviously done things differently in attacking the rollover.


my name: so say I start with $900, roll it over 55x or whatever the requirement is, and have $700 left. that turns in to cash, or it disappears because I haven't won anything above the bonus?

Tatiana: That turns in to cash

Bet phoenix used to be the sticky type, I just checked their site and you're right it's cashable

52x rollover, 12x max cash out, fully cashable

52x rollover, 12x max cash out, fully cashable52x rollover, 12x max cash out, fully cashable

When I said the dsi sticky bonus was standard I didn't mean that it's the only kind of bonus, just that it's not unheard of and there are a lot of online casinos that offer that type of bonus. And actually DSI isn't s bad bonus since you don't need to risk your own money in the casino. Normally a "sticky" style bonus you put your own money in and they match it with bonus money but the bonus money is "sticky" and only used to wager can't be cashed out. Then when you meet rollover you can take out the money you deposited into the casino and any winnings but not the original bonus. So DSI is more like a freeroll, but they really should make it very clear especially since their clientele is sports bettors that are less likely to be familiar with how a "sticky" casino bonus works.

When I say sticky and put quotes that's just a term used on casino forums and some online casinos, describing the bonus as the type that can't be cashed out, it "sticks' in the casino I guess lol. The other more desirable type of bonus is cashable, which is what you have at bet phoenix. It's always good to check with live chat, but even they can make mistakes (some are incompetent) so it's good to also see if you can find the rules for the bonus on the website.

Good find at bet phoenix, GL

[gameplaylarry]

Bet phoenix used to be the sticky type, I just checked their site and you're right it's cashable

52x rollover, 12x max cash out, fully cashable52x rollover, 12x max cash out, fully cashable

When I said the dsi sticky bonus was standard I didn't mean that it's the only kind of bonus, just that it's not unheard of and there are a lot of online casinos that offer that type of bonus. And actually DSI isn't s bad bonus since you don't need to risk your own money in the casino. Normally a "sticky" style bonus you put your own money in and they match it with bonus money but the bonus money is "sticky" and only used to wager can't be cashed out. Then when you meet rollover you can take out the money you deposited into the casino and any winnings but not the original bonus. So DSI is more like a freeroll, but they really should make it very clear especially since their clientele is sports bettors that are less likely to be familiar with how a "sticky" casino bonus works.

When I say sticky and put quotes that's just a term used on casino forums and some online casinos, describing the bonus as the type that can't be cashed out, it "sticks' in the casino I guess lol. The other more desirable type of bonus is cashable, which is what you have at bet phoenix. It's always good to check with live chat, but even they can make mistakes (some are incompetent) so it's good to also see if you can find the rules for the bonus on the website.

Good find at bet phoenix, GL

Ahh okay, gotcha.

[gator101]

Had the same thing happen to me this weekend on a freeplay at Betdsi! Wasn't in the casino but betting the sports book, got a push on game that i bet using the freeplay money and they counted it as a loss! I had no clue that a straight up bet with freeplay money was considered a loss if the game lands on the spread. Really wish they had that more visible on there site, at the very least i figured it would be a push and either have the freeplay money put back in my account. I didn't loose the bet or i didn't win the bet. Thought that was kind of crap considering that i needed to deposit over 300 to get the match bonus. Maybe this is the normal for sportsbooks to grade a freeplay bet as a loss that ties on the spread, but everyone else i asked said that was bullshit and wouldn't play there since i told them. I truly think betdsi is a very good book and like playing there but after that i doubt i will be playing there anymore. IF a push was a loss then i would always use freeplay money to change line to .5 so this never happens again. How do you guys think about this being considered a loss of bonus. Please tell me what you think. Maybe i am in the wrong? Would love to here from fello sbr members and see if this has happened to you. Thanks

[raiders72001]

Had the same thing happen to me this weekend on a freeplay at Betdsi! Wasn't in the casino but betting the sports book, got a push on game that i bet using the freeplay money and they counted it as a loss! I had no clue that a straight up bet with freeplay money was considered a loss if the game lands on the spread. Really wish they had that more visible on there site, at the very least i figured it would be a push and either have the freeplay money put back in my account. I didn't loose the bet or i didn't win the bet. Thought that was kind of crap considering that i needed to deposit over 300 to get the match bonus. Maybe this is the normal for sportsbooks to grade a freeplay bet as a loss that ties on the spread, but everyone else i asked said that was bullshit and wouldn't play there since i told them. I truly think betdsi is a very good book and like playing there but after that i doubt i will be playing there anymore. IF a push was a loss then i would always use freeplay money to change line to .5 so this never happens again. How do you guys think about this being considered a loss of bonus. Please tell me what you think. Maybe i am in the wrong? Would love to here from fello sbr members and see if this has happened to you. Thanks

Lots of books consider a push a loss on free plays. I've forgotten about it a couple times and got burned. Back to the sticky bonus. One book even uses a sticky bonus in their sportsbook.

[pokernut9999]

What is bad is you can not get the 100% sportsbook bonus without taking the 50% casino bonus !!!

Why in the hell would you have to take the casino bonus ?

[benandjerry]

What is bad is you can not get the 100% sportsbook bonus without taking the 50% casino bonus !!!

Why in the hell would you have to take the casino bonus ?

dunno why you have to take it (if you have to), but its a freeroll, so why not? at least was in the football promo...

[pokernut9999]

dunno why you have to take it (if you have to), but its a freeroll, so why not? at least was in the football promo...

Why not ? Why do I want to waste my time with it ? If there was not a catch you would not have to take it.

[horja1]

Lots of books consider a push a loss on free plays. I've forgotten about it a couple times and got burned. Back to the sticky bonus. One book even uses a sticky bonus in their sportsbook.

even in SBR sportsbook you will lose your freeplay if your bet is a push ... if you read the rules you'll know it and buy 1/2 point if it's posible

[Kindred]

What is bad is you can not get the 100% sportsbook bonus without taking the 50% casino bonus !!!

Why in the hell would you have to take the casino bonus ?

Well cause you don't have to risk anything, it's a free chip for the casino. Win great, lose costs nothing. Unless they changed things, you don't have to tie up your deposit in the casino for the casino bonus. your deposit is in the sportsbook and you only need to clear the sportsbook bonus rollover in order to cash out.

[Stefan]

Does everybody get this bonus or is this a re-deposit bonus? In the t&c's there's a point about re-deposit bonus.

Re-up bonuses are granted only if:

• The players recent wager activity has resulted in losses that are at least equal to his re-up deposit amount.

[tto827]

dunno why you have to take it (if you have to), but its a freeroll, so why not? at least was in the football promo...

They are completely separate, I took it a while back, completed my sportsbook rollover, and cashed some out without ever stepping foot in their casino.

[gator101]

Thanks for clarifying that for me! Yes i did read it in there rules after i lost! Just think it sucks. lol either way thanks

[MBENZ]

What is bad is you can not get the 100% sportsbook bonus without taking the 50% casino bonus !!!

Why in the hell would you have to take the casino bonus ?

You don't have to take the casino bonus.The live chat is puppet trained.I made a stink about it on here a while back and DSI Relations straightened it out so it was sportsbook only bonus.

[horja1]

Does everybody get this bonus or is this a re-deposit bonus? In the t&c's there's a point about re-deposit bonus.

you should check this with CS but I believe it is not related to your past activity with them