1. 10-28-12 10:22 AM #1
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    question

    If i deposit 1000 take 125% fp with 12x roll what is the rollover? Do they count the freeplay in? Would it be 2250*12?. It is only the wager amounts too right?

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  2. 10-28-12 06:35 PM #2
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    usually they count the rollover with the deposit and freeplay together
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  3. 10-28-12 06:59 PM #3
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    A more common and recent development with rollovers and offshore is this...
    Principle deposit plus bonus times rollover or principle deposit plus bonus plus any winnings from freeplay wagers times rollover or my favorite principle deposit plus bonus plus any winnings from freeplay wagers plus any deposit fees reimbursed to account times rollover ... you have to check with each service to find out which way they do it. Why do they do this you are wondering... because if you lay $200 freeplay on a parlay and hit you will end up with a far higher amount in your cash account than your initial bonus and deposit and books dont want the added exposure anymore from this shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by touchback View Post
    A more common and recent development with rollovers and offshore is this...
    Principle deposit plus bonus times rollover or principle deposit plus bonus plus any winnings from freeplay wagers times rollover or my favorite principle deposit plus bonus plus any winnings from freeplay wagers plus any deposit fees reimbursed to account times rollover ... you have to check with each service to find out which way they do it. Why do they do this you are wondering... because if you lay $200 freeplay on a parlay and hit you will end up with a far higher amount in your cash account than your initial bonus and deposit and books dont want the added exposure anymore from this shot.
    And for this reason do not bet parlays with freeplays. Contact your book for how to calculate rollover requirement. Usually they use the lesser amount of risk/to win to calculate amount towards rollover.
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  5. 10-28-12 07:32 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatron81lions View Post
    If i deposit 1000 take 125% fp with 12x roll what is the rollover? Do they count the freeplay in? Would it be 2250*12?. It is only the wager amounts too right?

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    Golly gee. Ask the book or name the book. Each one is different, home slice.
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  6. 10-28-12 07:49 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by tto827 View Post
    And for this reason do not bet parlays with freeplays. Contact your book for how to calculate rollover requirement. Usually they use the lesser amount of risk/to win to calculate amount towards rollover.
    Well, IMHO if they dont count freeplay winnings in the rollover then putting your freeplay on a 2 or 3 team parlay is the shot. This is because, as mentioned already, the lesser of the risk versus the win counts toward rollover and if freeplay is technically zero, which it is counted as when calculating rollover then the small parlay is a good move to use freeplay on... just dont go over 3 teams and you can work it a little. Unlike cash, if you win you keep your cash wager plus the winnings but freeplay wagers are zero cash value and the principle freeplay wagered disappears if you win or loose. I would rather throw $200 freeplay at a 2 teamer instead of cash any day of the week if it does not increase my rollover. PS Bookies love 4 teamers and higher, and for good reason... so if they like something stay away from it.
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  7. 10-28-12 09:33 PM #7
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    I love betting parlays with freeplays becuase if it hits, i hit the casino/poker room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hankwins View Post
    I love betting parlays with freeplays becuase if it hits, i hit the casino/poker room.
    If you are planning to play in the casino, your rollover won't matter. You will lose it all anyway.
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  9. 10-29-12 07:17 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by robmpink View Post
    Golly gee. Ask the book or name the book. Each one is different, home slice.
    More useless input from you rob. Like ive said before get a life bro quit lurking the industry forum plugging BetIslands looking for a freeplay.
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  10. 10-29-12 05:13 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtneer1212 View Post
    If you are planning to play in the casino, your rollover won't matter. You will lose it all anyway.
    True, rollover will not count towards a sportbook bonus rollover requirement but some savy guys throw a freeplay shot at a parlay and if they hit then go into the casino and build a little bankroll on black jack. The bigger bankroll can be used to bang out the rollover on the sports side much faster... this technique is more commonly used on no deposit freebets. Sound in principle except for the fact you cannot always be to sure how much of a hold percentage they got on the RNG for that particular casino and if it is to high will just take all your money.
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  11. 10-29-12 07:04 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatron81lions View Post
    More useless input from you rob. Like ive said before get a life bro quit lurking the industry forum plugging BetIslands looking for a freeplay.
    Funny, you told me I was "lurking" once before, young fella. Don't be dumb. The freeplay calculation between books isn't the same. How can you expect a calculation without naming the book? 1 vice, betislands, betred7 or whatever it is, they all have different rollover calculations. Do you understand that?

    Useless input? Boy, you better ask someone considering you've been here some time and should know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by touchback View Post
    True, rollover will not count towards a sportbook bonus rollover requirement but some savy guys throw a freeplay shot at a parlay and if they hit then go into the casino and build a little bankroll on black jack. The bigger bankroll can be used to bang out the rollover on the sports side much faster... this technique is more commonly used on no deposit freebets. Sound in principle except for the fact you cannot always be to sure how much of a hold percentage they got on the RNG for that particular casino and if it is to high will just take all your money.
    It worked for me on youwager and I made enough to knock out rollover on the sports side real quick, but I just went big on the sports betting becuase at youwager the RO doesn't mean a thing to me. you can withdrawl any winnings at any time., which to me is the sweetest deal around for anyone taking bonuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robmpink View Post
    Funny, you told me I was "lurking" once before, young fella. Don't be dumb. The freeplay calculation between books isn't the same. How can you expect a calculation without naming the book? 1 vice, betislands, betred7 or whatever it is, they all have different rollover calculations. Do you understand that?

    Useless input? Boy, you better ask someone considering you've been here some time and should know.

    Rob im gonna squash all this banter. Just do me a favor and stay the fuk out of my threads with your nonsense.
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  14. 10-30-12 07:32 PM #14
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    Nonsense? Lol, get a clue. Your threads? Are you the tough guy, fella?

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