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    Question on line services?

    Due you have to pay these books for access to the real time odds? The only thing you would have to do is build a link to the site. Why couldn't the average guy build a page for free to do the same thing? All the other stuff the offer ie (weather, injuries, steam plays, etc.) can easily be found or figured out.

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    I'm sure it's probably expensive to get live line feeds

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    Very program intensive
    24 hr maintenance
    costly servers..lots of strain on them'

    Pay for it so much easier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    Due you have to pay these books for access to the real time odds? The only thing you would have to do is build a link to the site. Why couldn't the average guy build a page for free to do the same thing? All the other stuff the offer ie (weather, injuries, steam plays, etc.) can easily be found or figured out.
    Free - http://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    Due you have to pay these books for access to the real time odds? The only thing you would have to do is build a link to the site. Why couldn't the average guy build a page for free to do the same thing? All the other stuff the offer ie (weather, injuries, steam plays, etc.) can easily be found or figured out.
    Ur free Showmetheodds account expired today too huh

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCentaur View Post
    Ur free Showmetheodds account expired today too huh
    Never found much value in these things. I cant believe people pay $500/mo for donbest. I can log on to pinnacle dynamic lines and get real time odds from the only book that matters for free.

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    Bookmaker has volatile moves that are gone by the time they are reflected on sbrodds, but yeah not sure its worth paying for the service

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    Due you have to pay these books for access to the real time odds? The only thing you would have to do is build a link to the site. Why couldn't the average guy build a page for free to do the same thing? All the other stuff the offer ie (weather, injuries, steam plays, etc.) can easily be found or figured out.
    I use Sports Options. Some of the things that I like:

    1. Injury reports. They get them faster than you can.
    2. Baseball lineups. I like to know if a guy is sitting and try to get bets in before the move.
    3. Weather - Although this is one thing that you can do as good if not better on your own.
    4. HTs. If you are going to play half times, you must have a service. HT lines are volatile. I think that the greatest ROI can be found betting halftimes.
    5. Steam
    6. Can check the odds of many books at the same time. You get a great idea of the books that you should add to your arsenal. This is very important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    Never found much value in these things. I cant believe people pay $500/mo for donbest. I can log on to pinnacle dynamic lines and get real time odds from the only book that matters for free.

    Fastest feed on SBR odds is pinnacle

    At times Pinny on SBR odds moves before it moves on dynamic lines

    Dynamic is every 30 seconds

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    4. HTs. If you are going to play half times, you must have a service. HT lines are volatile. I think that the greatest ROI can be found betting halftimes.
    90% of the time Greek puts out the half times first and usually Pinny follows
    I have a little time before the others follow and many times I can get best number by firing into Greek early
    I keep my Greek and Pinny accounts open and bet accordingly

    By the time you see the number on the screen and go to shop and bet number is gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post
    Fastest feed on SBR odds is pinnacle

    At times Pinny on SBR odds moves before it moves on dynamic lines

    Dynamic is every 30 seconds
    not true

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    not true

    What is not true

    the every 30 seconds?

    at times yes it does move faster

    Was watching it all day Saturday and line moves late in the South carolina-Lsu game were being reflected on SBR odds before they were moving on dynamic

    Not all the time faster but sometimes

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    Refresh manually then at times where you really care about it, SBR odds is totally worthless if you can look at Pinny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post
    What is not true

    the every 30 seconds?

    at times yes it does move faster

    Was watching it all day Saturday and line moves late in the South carolina-Lsu game were being reflected on SBR odds before they were moving on dynamic

    Not all the time faster but sometimes
    Dynamic is live. When I checked SBR odds long ago, it missed many of the moves and was delayed at least 30 seconds. I think that can cause some of the confusion. I have to admit that I haven't run SBR odds back to back with Pinny or a line service in a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    Dynamic is live. When I checked SBR odds long ago, it missed many of the moves and was delayed at least 30 seconds. I think that can cause some of the confusion. I have to admit that I haven't run SBR odds back to back with Pinny or a line service in a long time.
    What happens is, SBR odds will have the line move in it's history, but the line move won't show up on the screen.

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    What is the delay on sbr odds? Is it different for each book? Sorry if this seems to be a dumb question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post


    Fastest feed on SBR odds is pinnacle

    At times Pinny on SBR odds moves before it moves on dynamic lines

    Dynamic is every 30 seconds
    not true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdotbold View Post
    What is the delay on sbr odds? Is it different for each book? Sorry if this seems to be a dumb question.
    varied vastly from book to book when I checked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdotbold View Post
    What is the delay on sbr odds? Is it different for each book? Sorry if this seems to be a dumb question.
    That's why don best can charge $500 a month for there line service which has real time odds. All the free ones have the odds delayed. When you see a line change on a free site it actually happened 20-30 seconds ago.

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    I have raiders on Ignore, which is great, but someone reproduced his quote about Pinnacle -

    Originally Posted by raiders72001"Dynamic is live."


    As usual, he is wrong. Dynamic is not live. As Bronxer stated, dynamic is every 30 seconds.

    Hopefully, everyone knows to ignore raiders - he is a troll and constantly interjects himself into threads and gives opinions he is not qualified to give.
    Last edited by Scooter; 10-15-12 at 10:41 PM.

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    theres a place called lineZIG in detroit its in a basement in a run down building that serves alot of these sports books

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    I have raiders on Ignore, which is great, but someone reproduced his quote about Pinnacle -

    Originally Posted by raiders72001"Dynamic is live."


    As usual, he is wrong. Dynamic is not live. As Bronxer stated, dynamic is every 30 seconds.

    Hopefully, everyone knows to ignore raiders - he is a troll and constantly interjects himself into threads and gives opinions he is not qualified to give.
    please stop with misinformation

    Pinnacle took sports betting 101 a step further by offering dynamic lines, which lets players watch the odds move live with color changes without the need to refresh the browser.
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/spor...nnacle-sports/

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    Emily who lays 1.6 million on the regular should know this

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    it is live but it only refreshes every 30 seconds

    meaning the line could change but it will not show it changed until the next refresh

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    Auto-refresh: ON

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    I've run pinny dynamic, SO and DB at the same time back to back to check delays. Dynamic is live and there is a slight difference in book speed between SO and DB. With some books DB was faster and at other books SO was faster but we aren't even talking a second. I posted a report about it across the street.
    Last edited by raiders72001; 10-15-12 at 11:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post
    it is live but it only refreshes every 30 seconds

    meaning the line could change but it will not show it changed until the next refresh
    Correct.

    I.e., dynamic/"live" is not live, it is an every 30 second refresh.

    raiders obviously doesn't have an account.

    Just a time wasting ignorant attention whore.
    Last edited by Scooter; 10-16-12 at 12:14 AM.

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    scooter- I don't want to waste more time arguing about it. Let's make a $500 bet, post up? Reagan holds money?

    flux[flʌks]n1. a flow or discharge

    2. continuous change; instability
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/flux

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    If you don't want to fork up the $300 for SO or $500 for DB, I would recommend SO mobile (works great on my IPad), I think it's $39 a month and they come up just as fast as long as your connected well and no real delay

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