Another 1xbet scam here. Made 3 complaints to sbr, no answers.

**Optional** · 08-14-19, 02:48 PM

1xbet will just tell SBR the same thing they have told you I am afraid.

**valtojohannes** · 08-14-19, 02:55 PM

Okay, thanks, haven't seen scam like this anywhere from them, to make bets with your account, crazy. Well have to spread evidence and send proof to them...
Asked what evidence they have regarding I would have made the bets.

'' Our company owes nothing to provide as an evidence. You are free to take action at your own discretion.''

**Optional** · 08-14-19, 03:04 PM

This is not a normal complaint about them.

I am not sure what to think here. It seems like a very rookie move if done to keep your money.

A dispute agent should respond to your complaint soon. But as I said, it's very doubtful 1xbet will change their mind just because SBR ask about it.

**valtojohannes** · 08-14-19, 03:15 PM

Yep, I was thinking exactly same. Or is some rogue employee who made it don't know 🤷anyways the vertification process was kind of the same as with multiple account scam.
Well I will get proof to show that's for sure, I'm not excepting anything anymore from them but will see, Im still going to chase this through.

**DontTailMe** · 08-14-19, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by Optional

This is not a normal complaint about them.

I am not sure what to think here. It seems like a very rookie move if done to keep your money.

A dispute agent should respond to your complaint soon. But as I said, it's very doubtful 1xbet will change their mind just because SBR ask about it.

Do you mean it’s not an abnormal complaint about them? Isn’t this exactly what a couple other recent threads have accused them of?

**lonnie55** · 08-14-19, 04:06 PM

SBR please, can you help to start a campaign against these fraudsters?

Start a crowdfunding for anti-1xbet advertising. Publish articles. Make these huge numbers of complaints more transparent. Expose the real face of this "company". The world has to learn that 1xbet is nothing but a fraud scheme and how much money they've already confiscated from their customers.

It's maddening how these fraudsters try to whitewash their reputation by sponsoring Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs, Barca, Serie A, Andrea Pirlo etc. etc.

And I have a feeling they will get away with it.

It's pathetic and speaking as one of their victims it hurts to see how they become more and more popular. These sponsorships would not be possible if they didn't systematically confiscate money from the players. It's hard to bear how so many of these so-called "independent" rating guides put 1xbet in a row with well-established brands like bet365 or rate them even higher. The Paysafe Group promotes this fraud on its products Skrill and Neteller which have millions of customers. But they don't offer any help if 1xbet confiscates their money.

This has to stop!

Please help to end this nightmare!

**lonnie55** · 08-14-19, 04:15 PM

13k...man, how did you hear from them, valtojohannes? Was it from one of their countless advertisings?

**craftbrewer** · 08-14-19, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by lonnie55

It's maddening how these fraudsters try to whitewash their reputation by sponsoring Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs, Barca, Serie A, Andrea Pirlo etc. etc.

Besides world-known top clubs you mentioned 1xbet are also sponsoring 3 Russian top football clubs- Zenit, Lokomotiv and Krasnodar and the biggest Kazakhstan football club - Astana.

**Alfa1234** · 08-14-19, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by lonnie55

SBR please, can you help to start a campaign against these fraudsters?

Start a crowdfunding for anti-1xbet advertising. Publish articles. Make these huge numbers of complaints more transparent. Expose the real face of this "company". The world has to learn that 1xbet is nothing but a fraud scheme and how much money they've already confiscated from their customers.

It's maddening how these fraudsters try to whitewash their reputation by sponsoring Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs, Barca, Serie A, Andrea Pirlo etc. etc.

And I have a feeling they will get away with it.

It's pathetic and speaking as one of their victims it hurts to see how they become more and more popular. These sponsorships would not be possible if they didn't systematically confiscate money from the players. It's hard to bear how so many of these so-called "independent" rating guides put 1xbet in a row with well-established brands like bet365 or rate them even higher. The Paysafe Group promotes this fraud on its products Skrill and Neteller which have millions of customers. But they don't offer any help if 1xbet confiscates their money.

This has to stop!

Please help to end this nightmare!

Instead of blacklisting and starting a campaign, they had a rating upgrade last year. Kudos for that one. I suppose you need tens of thousands of complaints and confiscations, not just thousands, to be blacklisted. I suppose merely communicating with SBR is enough to warrant an upgrade.

**lonnie55** · 08-14-19, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by Alfa1234

Instead of blacklisting and starting a campaign, they had a rating upgrade last year. Kudos for that one. I suppose you need tens of thousands of complaints and confiscations, not just thousands, to be blacklisted. I suppose merely communicating with SBR is enough to warrant an upgrade.

Yes, that was a dick move. I'm sure many mods did not agree with this rating upgrade even if they say something else. Must have been a management decision. I just hope that one day the pressure is high enough so that SBR management reconsiders the rating and their general attitude towards 1xbet.

**piterp** · 08-14-19, 06:04 PM

SBR put them in low rating and they cant do much more - better is just make make video about 1xbet and put on youtube it is much more powerful

than posts here

**valtojohannes** · 08-15-19, 12:21 AM

I had played there almost two years without any problems, was just too greedy because the odds were so good. Should have stopped playing there before. Well situation is that kind a strange that I can easily proof I didint do these bets after police investigation. Then just have to spread the evidence. I heard there is some kind of class action going on against them soon, there is so much proof about their scams, but I'm not sure.

**Winpro** · 08-15-19, 04:20 AM

Originally posted by valtojohannes

...was just too greedy because the odds were so good.

The same odds you could find out at Marathonbet and Betcity. They pay.

**Poisec** · 08-15-19, 05:14 AM

Sorry for your loss.

**Poisec** · 08-15-19, 05:16 AM

Originally posted by Winpro

The same odds you could find out at Marathonbet and Betcity. They pay.

Yes looks like they use the same odds provider, Marathonbet are okay, they limit quickly but pay the winnings.

**goce** · 08-15-19, 09:35 AM

You cant do anything. They will do what they want and they have gambling license issued from Curacao e-gaming. Curacao e-gaming is just taking 1xbet money and allowing them to do what they want. If you raise complaint there they will just send email to 1xbet and put you in CC and ask: "Any update?". And after that they dont do anything. My point is that there isnt third party to investigate your situation. Its just you against 1xbet and if they say that you do something wrong they dont explain it and you cant turnover that decision. No one has control over them. MAFIA

**BetExaminer** · 08-15-19, 09:53 AM

Try telling your story to the BBC journalist who recently did an investigation into the Curacao "licensing". He's on twitter @jolyonjenkins.

**valtojohannes** · 08-15-19, 10:28 AM

I will thanks

**lonnie55** · 08-15-19, 11:23 AM

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/search/?q=1xbet

"While the sportsbook is still listed under the avoid section on SBR's blacklist in 2019, players who play by the rules and who make sure to verify their accounts upfront are not at an extreme risk of not being paid."

This is misleading information. FTFY: "players who play by the rules and who make sure to verify their accounts upfront and do not bet on lower level sports are not at an extreme risk of not being paid. Nevertheless this book should be strictly avoided!"

**valtojohannes** · 08-15-19, 11:36 AM

My account was vertified, played by the rules, and was playing only major football leagues and games. This one was my second vertification and scammed.

**lonnie55** · 08-15-19, 12:04 PM

Okay, then this it has to be:

"players who play by the rules and who make sure to verify their accounts upfront and do not bet on lower level sports and do not accumulate a balance higher than 3 figures are not at an extreme risk of not being paid. Nevertheless this book should be strictly avoided!"

**Conueta123** · 08-17-19, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by valtojohannes

My account was vertified, played by the rules, and was playing only major football leagues and games. This one was my second vertification and scammed.

13k euros? my god! i think someone used your account. try to ask for screenshot of your bets made from the same ip address

**Gaze73** · 08-17-19, 02:11 PM

The trick with 1xbet is to fill up KYC and make a few small withdrawals first just to establish that everything works fine. Then after you accumulate some winnings and withdraw a bigger sum they can't come up with any excuse without looking like scamming idiots.

**2daBank** · 08-17-19, 02:31 PM

Unfortunately these kinda situations never end well for the guy who got fukked over. If you being honest about what happened that sucks man, not much you can do but chalk it up to a expensive lesson learned. Continue getting the word out to hopefully help others from suffering the same fate.

**piterp** · 08-17-19, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Gaze73

they can't come up with any excuse without looking like scamming idiots.

Of course they can- who stop them regulator from banana republic??

**lonnie55** · 08-17-19, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Gaze73

The trick with 1xbet is to fill up KYC and make a few small withdrawals first just to establish that everything works fine. Then after you accumulate some winnings and withdraw a bigger sum they can't come up with any excuse without looking like scamming idiots.

Yet that's exactly what they do all the time. Their generic "excuse" is:

"Good Day. We are bringing to your notice that we made a decision to stop any collaboration with you (closing your gaming account) on the basis of General Terms and Conditions of the Bookmaker Company:
Should the bettor commit fraud in respect to the bookmaker (such as the registration of multiple accounts, the use of automated betting software, arbitrage betting, if the betting account is not used for betting, the improper use of loyalty schemes, etc.), the bookmaker reserves the right to stop such fraudulent actions by:
-bet cancellation;
-closure of the customer’s account with the balance being refunded;
-filing a claim to a law-enforcement agency.
Effective as of 1 January 2011
The decision was made after rigorous investigation of the case by The Security Department.
We ask you not to create gaming accounts with The Company. Please, notice, that all the accounts created again in the system will be closed,bets will be annulled, deposited funds will be in hold and used on the expenses related with the investigation and blocking.
Due to the fact that your actions have been recognized as flagrant violation of The T&Cs of our Company, the decision of stopping any cooperation with you was final and not subject to further appeal.
All further questions concerning the case of blocking from your side will be ignored.
You can withdraw the deposited sum only."

**valtojohannes** · 08-25-19, 07:03 AM

Yep, I've played there for two years! Made lots of big withdrawals. Now they just decided to empty my account right after new vertification, still waiting my details from my teleoperator and police.

**newton0038** · 08-25-19, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by lonnie55

Yet that's exactly what they do all the time. Their generic "excuse" is:

"Good Day. We are bringing to your notice that we made a decision to stop any collaboration with you (closing your gaming account) on the basis of General Terms and Conditions of the Bookmaker Company:
Should the bettor commit fraud in respect to the bookmaker (such as the registration of multiple accounts, the use of automated betting software, arbitrage betting, if the betting account is not used for betting, the improper use of loyalty schemes, etc.), the bookmaker reserves the right to stop such fraudulent actions by:
-bet cancellation;
-closure of the customer’s account with the balance being refunded;
-filing a claim to a law-enforcement agency.

Effective as of 1 January 2011
The decision was made after rigorous investigation of the case by The Security Department.
We ask you not to create gaming accounts with The Company. Please, notice, that all the accounts created again in the system will be closed,bets will be annulled, deposited funds will be in hold and used on the expenses related with the investigation and blocking.
Due to the fact that your actions have been recognized as flagrant violation of The T&Cs of our Company, the decision of stopping any cooperation with you was final and not subject to further appeal.
All further questions concerning the case of blocking from your side will be ignored.
You can withdraw the deposited sum only."

As if 1x is going to expose themselves to investigation by calling the cops to investigate a client.

**KittiP** · 08-27-19, 03:08 AM

1xBet have made a name for themselves here for being the biggest scam site.

Just look through the previous threads, their name comes up so often.

Just ridiculous to think that their licencors still allow them to even operate and not even that, that big clubs allows these scam artists to sponsor them.

**KittiP** · 08-27-19, 03:12 AM

Sorry, I mis-expressed my thoughts in the last post.

I initially wrote scam 'artists' but that would imply that they have a little bit of intelligence or grace about their scams or they were able to pull off something that no would have thought off.

However these guys are just scammers hiding behind a computer screen and relying on the fake reputation that they were able to build.

I should have written scamming pieces of s**t

**Optional** · 08-27-19, 02:06 PM

The big clubs deserve a bit of blow back I think.

They are selling their credibility to bookmakers, they need to be responsible about it a bit.