1. 08-16-12 08:59 PM #106
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    this is the stupidest dick jugglin thread ever.
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  2. 08-16-12 09:07 PM #107
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    mathdotcom like his balls juggled

    He's takes all the books for money yet he still posts here... Winning gamblers don't post on internet gambling forums...
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  3. 08-16-12 09:10 PM #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by therushishere View Post
    Does offshore adjust to Vegas or does Vegas adjust to offshore?
    Offshore sets their odds the day before and Vegas doesn't set their odds until the morning of the games. Do they take Pinny opening price and/or any moves into account?

    Keeping up with this thread it would seem it would be even more attractive than ever to move to Vegas and have runners in order to have 20+ different outs in the city plus whatever you can get online (and maybe even reroute your VPN to keep up w Pinny if youre coming from outside the US).

    I'm wondering if there are any line services that would keep accurate up-to date lines of all the books in Vegas or how they would accomplish this.
    Offshore gets somewhere around 99.3% of the action, so it's pretty safe to assume that it's Vegas who is adjusting to them. Haven't really played too much late night steam, but the two books in town open 24/7 (South Point and Orleans) don't do that good of a job protecting themselves from Pinnacle moves. If you're up, you can get some good numbers. Stations (via Sports Connection) shuts down from 3 AM to 6 AM via mobile betting and adjusts to overnight moves by the time they start taking wagers again. Can't say I have too much experience at Cantor.

    Vegas isn't anywhere close to what it used to be in terms of outs and value. There's maybe 15 outs these days with the number dwindling each year. Plus, only a half dozen offer enough daily value to visit anymore. A year ago I was finding a dozen daily scalps at Stations less than an hour before close. Nowadays, you'll be lucky to find 2-3 daily. Plus management has become considerably stricter in terms of what bet they'll let you make. I was refused service at Palace Station not too long ago until I got a boarding pass so they could track my wagers.

    ShowMeTheOdds has every Vegas book (sans Cantor and Will Hill, who I don't believe is on any feed) on their service which offers up-to-second Pinnacle moves free of charge. Just wish they had a mobile device like SportsOptions.
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  4. 08-16-12 10:07 PM #109
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    good thread
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  5. 08-16-12 10:18 PM #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by goblue12 View Post
    Offshore gets somewhere around 99.3% of the action, so it's pretty safe to assume that it's Vegas who is adjusting to them. Haven't really played too much late night steam, but the two books in town open 24/7 (South Point and Orleans) don't do that good of a job protecting themselves from Pinnacle moves. If you're up, you can get some good numbers. Stations (via Sports Connection) shuts down from 3 AM to 6 AM via mobile betting and adjusts to overnight moves by the time they start taking wagers again. Can't say I have too much experience at Cantor.

    Vegas isn't anywhere close to what it used to be in terms of outs and value. There's maybe 15 outs these days with the number dwindling each year. Plus, only a half dozen offer enough daily value to visit anymore. A year ago I was finding a dozen daily scalps at Stations less than an hour before close. Nowadays, you'll be lucky to find 2-3 daily. Plus management has become considerably stricter in terms of what bet they'll let you make. I was refused service at Palace Station not too long ago until I got a boarding pass so they could track my wagers.

    ShowMeTheOdds has every Vegas book (sans Cantor and Will Hill, who I don't believe is on any feed) on their service which offers up-to-second Pinnacle moves free of charge. Just wish they had a mobile device like SportsOptions.
    doesnt donbest have cantor??
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  6. 08-16-12 10:24 PM #111
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    I'll tell you this:

    There is definitely a market for Canadians setting up pinnacle accounts for Americans and then said Americans being able to log in remotely. Just a few logistical problems with getting bank statements and such!
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  7. 08-16-12 10:26 PM #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    doesnt donbest have cantor??
    No line service has Cantor's lines.

    The only way you can see Cantor's numbers is to have the app on your phone or to be inside one of their sportsbooks. I hear they are setting up betting over pc's as well.
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  8. 08-16-12 10:30 PM #113
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    Any good bonuses out there fellas????
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  9. 08-16-12 10:40 PM #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkwell77 View Post
    No line service has Cantor's lines.

    The only way you can see Cantor's numbers is to have the app on your phone or to be inside one of their sportsbooks. I hear they are setting up betting over pc's as well.
    oh ok thanks
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  10. 08-16-12 10:42 PM #115
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    Guys agree or disagree with what is said in the threads, we need more threads discussing the industry and fewer discussing shari's
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  11. 08-17-12 12:47 AM #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strider View Post
    this is the stupidest dick jugglin thread ever.
    This must be the first ever thread you've read in players talk.
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  12. 08-17-12 07:51 AM #117
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    More sharps/arbers, more competition, less easy money. Welcome to the future.
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  13. 08-18-12 04:10 PM #118
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    mathy i agree with your observations its getting worse for sure.

    and sbr might have taken a turn for the worse here too
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  14. 08-18-12 04:30 PM #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkwell77 View Post
    I'll tell you this:

    There is definitely a market for Canadians setting up pinnacle accounts for Americans and then said Americans being able to log in remotely. Just a few logistical problems with getting bank statements and such!
    why are you posting this here?
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