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    problem to be paid by Vivarobet

    I have an account with Vivarobet, but i've experienced a big problem for the last 2 days: i can't access to their website anymore! Indeed, everytime i try to access Vivarobet, this message appears on my screen: "No access from your country". It seems that my country has recently decided to prevent its residents to access Vivarobet. I sent emails to Vivarobet explaining them the situation, they understand the pb and are ok to pay me my remaining balance and but won't believe what they told me ! : if i want to be paid, i have to change my IP address and so be able to access Vivarobet website to submit my payout request by myself ! Change my IP address to have a foreign IP address?? I know some can do that, but i'm not good at all at informatic... And why on Earth don't they simply submit the payout request for me ??? I can't access the website, they admit it, so the least they could do should be to sumbit payout request for me, instead of asking me to find a way to change my IP address to access their website and submit payout request by myself ! Have you ever heard such a thing ? I 'll immediately post complaint asking for SBR team to help me !

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    A couple of things you can try:
    1. Which vivarobet are you playing with? .com, .ge or .am? If you are playing with .com then you can also use vbet.com. I think one of the others are related to europe-bet.com but not sure which.


    2. Try changing your DNS servers. Use Google's, I think they are 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 or something. This is 100% safe.


    3. Try accessing the site by entering their IP addresses in your browser instead of the domain name, so http://46.4.88.182 for vivarobet.com


    4. I know my mobile phone uses a Polish (or something silly like that) IP address when I use the Opera Mini browser. Not really sure why but I have used it many times and not really had any problems. As a side note, my phone carrier uses an IP from my neighboring country by default because the two companies operate in both countries. Maybe you have something similar? It is worth a try anyway if the phone carrier is not the same company as your current ISP.


    5. Buy a VPN service with your own private IP. I would not really recommend this but if you use a reputable, international provider then you could probably trust them just as much as you can trust your ISP.


    Good luck!

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    Thank you very much for your advice Chopsticks. I don't know how to change IP or DNS servers and anyway i don't want to, i consider i don't have to. But i tried, as you suggested, with vbet.com and i could access website. Unfortunately, when i tried to submit my payout request with MB, there was technical issue and imposible so. I spent more than 1 hour on live chat, explaining them my problem, but all they could do for me was to tell me to try later while they would try to see what's the matter with MB. I asked them about 20 times if they could submit the request for me, the 20th time the operator finally told me yes they could, but for now they prefer to make me wait and try later by myself !!! What 's that bookmakers??WHat kind of joke is it?

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    Glad it worked! I am sure that you will get paid. They have a solid operation and I enjoyed playing there for as long as they would let me. No reason to worry about DNS or any of the other stuff if you can vbet.com. I believe they are phasing out the old vivaro site. Hopefully the new site will not be taken down by your government.

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    Vivarobet is a decent book, you will be paid man!

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    "Vivarobet is a decent book" ???? A good joke according to my own experience !Let's have a look at the end of the chat i've just had with a Vbet (vivarobet) operator:

    Andranik: Unfortunately, Your government prohibited our website for his residents, in this case the only solution is to change Your IP address using this link proxy4free.com to be able to access vivarobet.com
    me: but i don't need to access vivarobet since i can access vbet.com , correct?
    me: i can login on vbet.com
    Andranik: Through Vbet.com You can't make withdrawal.
    Andranik: Th only solution is to change Your IP address and enter the website.
    me: why don't you simply submit the payout request for me as any bookmaker would do??
    me: You prefer ask me to be out of law by changing my IP to access a website prohibited by my government?
    me: Could you tell me Andranik what prevents you to submit the payout request?
    Andranik: The problem does not connect with us, Your government decided to prevent his residents from our website, we were trying to do everything to submit your requests but unfortunately it is impossible to do.
    Andranik: We cant submit Your request because of the decision of Your government.
    me: what? i came on live chat a few hours ago, and the operator told me it was possible for vivaro to submit request for me !
    me: so you mean the only solution for me is to change my IP and made the request by myself??
    me: what decision of my government are you talking about? My government prevents me from connecting to your website, but it never decided to prevent you from paying me !
    Andranik: My offer is to go by this address proxy4free.com and to open our wepsite.
    me: ok, you know what?
    me: i'll ask technical help on forum, i'll manage to change IP and connect to vivaro
    me: and make my payout request
    me: but you can rely on me to do the wort possible advertisemnt for your website
    me: i've never seen that in my whole life,
    me: that's not the first time a website can't be reached anymore because of my gov decision,
    me: but every time the bookmakers made necesary to return me money
    me: Vivaro is the first one that makes things so difficult , by forcing me to change my IP address
    me: rely on me to explain it on all forums i know...
    Andranik: We are trying to do our best to help our clients, You can enter our website, make Your request and we will undoubtedly confirm it.
    me: if you really were doing your best, you would submit the request by yourself, all bookmakers can, but for a reason i ignore you're not able???
    me: Good bye, i have to find a way to change my IP now...

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    vivaro decent?

    Hy , im a new member here but i tried to find more detais about this "vivaro", realy this guys are a joke.

    I recently asked to withdraw my 300 euro that i have into my account, i did placed same bets on the site, 4-5 that i rember , i dont know exactly but i think i lost 1 and won 4.

    Here is the response from them after i sent my identity card to ask my money.

    #############
    We want to inform You that Your bets are being looked through by Risk Management. There are suspects that You have broadcasting opportunity of seeing the events beforehand. If this fact is proved, our company has right to block Your account.

    Best Regards
    Vbet Team!
    ##########################

    I dont understand what they mean with that , i hope this is a joke or they think we are idiots. When i lost 100 on 1 bet its ok , after you win they say you are Nostradamus? of course if i bet to live market i want to see the game on a stream or video from Bet365 or other site and a lot of time a take a risk if i see that one team its pushing or making an fast contraatac, im asking this is against the rules? how can be?

    I ask to people who has more experience , what can i do , i had the money there for the last 3 months and i did not asked for withdraw and now i decide to withdraw and they send me this email.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by orlandoalm View Post
    Hy , im a new member here but i tried to find more detais about this "vivaro", realy this guys are a joke.

    I recently asked to withdraw my 300 euro that i have into my account, i did placed same bets on the site, 4-5 that i rember , i dont know exactly but i think i lost 1 and won 4.

    Here is the response from them after i sent my identity card to ask my money.

    #############
    We want to inform You that Your bets are being looked through by Risk Management. There are suspects that You have broadcasting opportunity of seeing the events beforehand. If this fact is proved, our company has right to block Your account.

    Best Regards
    Vbet Team!
    ##########################

    I dont understand what they mean with that , i hope this is a joke or they think we are idiots. When i lost 100 on 1 bet its ok , after you win they say you are Nostradamus? of course if i bet to live market i want to see the game on a stream or video from Bet365 or other site and a lot of time a take a risk if i see that one team its pushing or making an fast contraatac, im asking this is against the rules? how can be?

    I ask to people who has more experience , what can i do , i had the money there for the last 3 months and i did not asked for withdraw and now i decide to withdraw and they send me this email.

    Thanks
    Unless they put stale lines up and can prove that they were stalled and you took advantage of a bad line, there is no way you do not get your money. There review will likely come up with nothing if you did nothing wrong. And if you did nothing wrong, and they still won't pay you file a complaint with SBR and you should get your money. I wouldn't be too worried, they just don't like players like you so they are going to give you a bit of a run-around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tto827 View Post
    Unless they put stale lines up and can prove that they were stalled and you took advantage of a bad line, there is no way you do not get your money. There review will likely come up with nothing if you did nothing wrong. And if you did nothing wrong, and they still won't pay you file a complaint with SBR and you should get your money. I wouldn't be too worried, they just don't like players like you so they are going to give you a bit of a run-around.
    Hy , thank you for a quick replay , can you help to file a complain? , when i made my account with Vivaro , i had good review from same coworkers that played there for same months , its realy shame that happend this to me , i hope that the rating of Vivaro goes down

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by orlandoalm View Post
    Hy , thank you for a quick replay , can you help to file a complain? , when i made my account with Vivaro , i had good review from same coworkers that played there for same months , its realy shame that happend this to me , i hope that the rating of Vivaro goes down

    Thanks
    Hi orlandoalm - Here is the Complaint Form. Once you fill this out someone from SBR will be able to review your case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    Hi orlandoalm - Here is the Complaint Form. Once you fill this out someone from SBR will be able to review your case.
    Thanks a lot guys , i actualy 2 days ago sent an email saying that i will make a formal complain with SBR to ask to downgrade their rate and they answer back saying that they opened my account ( limited to 10 euro) and my money will be transfered during this week
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    Our Risk Management decided that You can make a withdrawal.Your on-line and off-line limits are 10 EUR. As our specialists clarify Your bets’ history, extension of Your off-line and Live bets’ limits will be discussed. For further information we'll let you know via e-mail.


    Best Regards
    VBet Team!

    ######################################## ############

    I hope i will recive my money from them , if not i will fill the complaint form and ask for your help again.

    Thanks a lot

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    Thank a lot guys , realy i was in the trouble with this payment and just mentioned SBR complain to them and they unblocked my account and they transfered my money today.

    Thanks again

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