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    Petey,

    Appreciate your feedback here. $100 is not bad to try out a new book, I definitely will give it a try.

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    Petey,

    Please explain this scenario.

    Average bettor:

    10 $100 bets

    5 wins for $500
    5 losses for $550

    $100 back in freeplay which is turned into $45 cash on average.

    So this book is working with a 0.5% hold for a 50% bettor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TryingMyBest View Post
    Petey,

    Please explain this scenario.

    Average bettor:

    10 $100 bets

    5 wins for $500
    5 losses for $550

    $100 back in freeplay which is turned into $45 cash on average.

    So this book is working with a 0.5% hold for a 50% bettor?
    The average bettor my friend cannot even pick 50% winners. The lines are set as such. If they do, which is rare, the VIGourish will eat them up in the long haul.
    Bet here for recreation, if you enjoy the game. If you are comfortable with other books in taking US players, go for it. I am just offering up my experience. It is the CUSTOMER SERVICE, FAIRNESS and the PERSONAL TOUCH which I like. I have never experienced that before. Speak with Omar and you will know what I am talking about. HE CARES ABOUT THE CUSTOMER. Win, Lose or Draw. That is what is important to me!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Petey Wheatstraw View Post
    The average bettor my friend cannot even pick 50% winners. The lines are set as such. If they do, which is rare, the VIGourish will eat them up in the long haul.
    Bet here for recreation, if you enjoy the game. If you are comfortable with other books in taking US players, go for it. I am just offering up my experience. It is the CUSTOMER SERVICE, FAIRNESS and the PERSONAL TOUCH which I like. I have never experienced that before. Speak with Omar and you will know what I am talking about. HE CARES ABOUT THE CUSTOMER. Win, Lose or Draw. That is what is important to me!

    Yes, the juice does eat up a 50% bettor. What you completely missed is the fact that this cash back program almost totally negates the the hold the book keeps.

    The bettor would have to hit around 47% to keep the same hold as a standard book dealing 20 cent lines
    Last edited by TryingMyBest; 06-25-12 at 09:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TryingMyBest View Post
    Petey,

    Please explain this scenario.

    Average bettor:

    10 $100 bets

    5 wins for $500
    5 losses for $550

    $100 back in freeplay which is turned into $45 cash on average.

    So this book is working with a 0.5% hold for a 50% bettor?

    No. I spoke with rep a few weeks back. in your example, you'll get $5 rebate. it's 10% of net loss or gain for the week, not volume of bet. petey is a damn moron. and if he doesn't work for this book, that makes him an even bigger retard for vouching for this garbage scheme. I play at every C and D rated books, this one i pass.

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    and that's $5 freeplay not cash

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    Guy is a fukktard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petey Wheatstraw View Post
    I have experienced customer service, fairness and the personal touch I have not received in 20 years gambling on the internet
    it all makes sense now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petey Wheatstraw View Post
    The average bettor my friend cannot even pick 50% winners. The lines are set as such. If they do, which is rare, the VIGourish will eat them up in the long haul.
    Bet here for recreation, if you enjoy the game. If you are comfortable with other books in taking US players, go for it. I am just offering up my experience. It is the CUSTOMER SERVICE, FAIRNESS and the PERSONAL TOUCH which I like. I have never experienced that before. Speak with Omar and you will know what I am talking about. HE CARES ABOUT THE CUSTOMER. Win, Lose or Draw. That is what is important to me!

    Your argument, while the premises may be valid, is extremely weak. The site may indeed have the greatest customer service known to man...but on whose list is customer service number 1? I'll tell you, I'd much much rather be with a book that isn't as polite in customer services so long as they offer me fast safe payouts and better odds (take pinnacle for example...or any number of the books others have mentioned here). I just do not get why you think having great customer service warrants a deposit . It's a neat fact, but what good is this to a bettor, where the name of the game is try and make some $ in a safe and fun way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SprayBoy View Post
    Your argument, while the premises may be valid, is extremely weak. The site may indeed have the greatest customer service known to man...but on whose list is customer service number 1? I'll tell you, I'd much much rather be with a book that isn't as polite in customer services so long as they offer me fast safe payouts and better odds (take pinnacle for example...or any number of the books others have mentioned here). I just do not get why you think having great customer service warrants a deposit . It's a neat fact, but what good is this to a bettor, where the name of the game is try and make some $ in a safe and fun way?
    Here is the payout schedule for them. Monday - Friday request payout between the hours of 9-12 am est. You will get a receiver to pick your money up same day, **. As said, they cover ** fees on all deposits and withdrawals, FREE. "For as little as $100." One free payout every 30 days. What part of that don't you understand?

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    Petey you corrupt window licker, why don't you bash your fabulous customer service and your sportsbettingonline right up your arse.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petey Wheatstraw View Post
    The average bettor my friend cannot even pick 50% winners. The lines are set as such. If they do, which is rare, the VIGourish will eat them up in the long haul.
    Bet here for recreation, if you enjoy the game. If you are comfortable with other books in taking US players, go for it. I am just offering up my experience. It is the CUSTOMER SERVICE, FAIRNESS and the PERSONAL TOUCH which I like. I have never experienced that before. Speak with Omar and you will know what I am talking about. HE CARES ABOUT THE CUSTOMER. Win, Lose or Draw. That is what is important to me!

    thanks for the $25 matchplay, so obvious you're not shill but a man at or running this book. with what you're offering people will be impressed and come around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petey Wheatstraw View Post
    Here is the payout schedule for them. Monday - Friday request payout between the hours of 9-12 am est. You will get a receiver to pick your money up same day, **. As said, they cover ** fees on all deposits and withdrawals, FREE. "For as little as $100." One free payout every 30 days. What part of that don't you understand?

    that is awesome but be honest and say "me" we all know you're are not a shill or customer. I don't hink it's against SBR rules to admit that.

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    I am a customer at Sportsbettingonline. Honest to the Lord Almighty above us. I already said that this is true on my children's life. I will go one step further, Honest to God on jjgold's toupe (just kidding there obviously).

    Look, I try to help the people and players at SBR through communicating information and experiences I have gone through in the Gambling World. Please everyone, don't try to tear down my efforts and riducule me. I am here for the good. If you read my posts and replies you will find truth and also a little humor to keep your interest.
    I rarely get upset, I value other people's opinion. But I believe I have the ability in most cases to seperate the BS form the facts. Again, this thread was created sincerely to help the players who might want to consider a net book that treats it's customers like real human beings. United States particularly. And the fees cost nothing, are convienient if you like **, and there is no pressure. I hope I have made myself perfectly clear. Sincerely, Petey


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    Peatey where are you from??

    We need to know more about you

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Peatey where are you from??

    We need to know more about you
    United States, Eastern coast jj.
    I am a small wagerer, consistent player. Play both casino, sportsbook and racebook. I have played most at 5 Dimes, already have commented on them.
    Also on Bookmaker, which I will never play at again. Bookmaker changes their withdrawal rules and make it very difficult to get your payout. It happened to me twice there, will not happen again.
    PW
    Last edited by Petey Wheatstraw; 06-26-12 at 07:46 AM. Reason: more info

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    oh wow they give back the 9.00 for 100 p2p deposits instead of 200 and up

    thats the only difference i see in ur argument from most other top shelf books for US customers
    Last edited by 5mike5; 06-26-12 at 08:15 AM.

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    Betislands. Send 200+, fees covered EVERYTIME (if u send everyday even)
    One free withdraw per month.
    Great track record so far.

    Rookie thread. Loser thread. Prob got a $40 free play to post

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    If you can't make a profit from a $100. bankroll with discipline, money management and good capping, perhaps you shouldn't be playing at all. Just a thought. Hmmmm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwinyourmoney View Post
    Betislands. Send 200+, fees covered EVERYTIME (if u send everyday even)
    One free withdraw per month.
    Great track record so far.

    Rookie thread. Loser thread. Prob got a $40 free play to post
    Wrong Bubby.

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    If you can only afford to send $100 you probably suck at gambling. Hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwinyourmoney View Post
    If you can only afford to send $100 you probably suck at gambling. Hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petey Wheatstraw View Post
    United States, Eastern coast jj.
    I am a small wagerer, consistent player. Play both casino, sportsbook and racebook. I have played most at 5 Dimes, already have commented on them.
    Also on Bookmaker, which I will never play at again. Bookmaker changes their withdrawal rules and make it very difficult to get your payout. It happened to me twice there, will not happen again.
    PW
    Then you're the first person to refer to it as "United States" and not "U.S", and certainly the first person to say "Eastern Coast" and not "east coast". Come on, man

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    Quote Originally Posted by TryingMyBest View Post
    Then you're the first person to refer to it as "United States" and not "U.S", and certainly the first person to say "Eastern Coast" and not "east coast". Come on, man
    +1

    He be Shillin'

    when someone presses really hard on getting an opinion across, he's usually wrong (in the hedge fund and trading world)

    it looks like sportsbooks and betting are the same. why the hard defense for a book? the only explanation is a conflict of interest.
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    Draw your own conclusions. Will not effect me one way or another. Nuf said.

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    double post
    Last edited by SprayBoy; 06-27-12 at 04:16 PM. Reason: double post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petey Wheatstraw View Post
    Here is the payout schedule for them. Monday - Friday request payout between the hours of 9-12 am est. You will get a receiver to pick your money up same day, **. As said, they cover ** fees on all deposits and withdrawals, FREE. "For as little as $100." One free payout every 30 days. What part of that don't you understand?
    how is this even remotely related to what I said? Again, they offer nothing better than other books other than maybe "great customer service". I don't get it, am I supposed to be impressed with that payout scheme? How about Pinnacle's quite literal immediate deposits and withdrawal options, and once again better than yours as it doesn't have to be between a specific time, it can be any time.

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    If pinnacle is a 9.5 the next highest rated one is about a 7.2

    I will exclude Betfair which is a 9.4 but more of a live betting exchange

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