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    EZ Street Threads Should Not Be Moderated by Justin7

    Biased Mods should not be allowed to police the forums. Justin7's disdain for EZ Street, and apparent fondness of Cory1111, should exclude him from moderating any thread involving either. The infraction below is a horrible misuse of authority. Despite all efforts to explain the matter to him, he refuses to reconsider at all--"take it to Lou" he says. Unfortunately, PMs to SBR Lou for a second Mod's opinion have gone unaswered thus far.

    My infraction letter from last night appears below and I've underlined the post that J7 flagged. My statement corrects Cory's post that Legions and I condone Sandusky's action. I go on to say that Scammers and Pedophiles are alike in that they both twist things to their advantage (making bad behavior somehow appear innocent). Justin's take on all this is that I am inferring Cory is a pedophile, when the inference is clearly meant toward Sandusky. Anyone with an ounce of common sense can see what was meant if they read the two quotes together, instead of just taking my quote out of context. Since J7 refuses to admit he possibly made a mistake, I'm asking Lou or any other unbiased Mod to review this matter and correct it.


    HH








    You have received an infraction at Sports Betting Forum & Handicapping
    Dear HedgeHog,

    You have received an infraction at Sports Betting Forum & Handicapping. Please refer to our Forum FAQ for more information on our site rules. If you have any questions about this infraction, please e-mail forum@sportsbookreview.com for more information.

    Reason: Insulted Other Member(s)
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    Pedophile inference is too far. Play nice.
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    This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

    Original Post:
    Easy streetsports complain


    Originally Posted by cory1111

    Legion whoever said I was mentioning other sportsbooks? You and your EZ lovers,(damn you can start a group) love to put words in my mouth. Hedgehog, also condones Sandusky from the sound of his other posts. Are you going to be fond of Sandusky too? And trust me definitely not worried which books you use, because if your taste is Ez then I can imagine what the other ones are.


    "My response to Cory"

    Wrong. I said he and you seem to get accused a lot and both of you claim to be innocent. Talk about twisting things.....guess that's what scammers (and pedifiles) do.







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    I've heard so many name being called at posters in so many threads, all but this thread where its prohibited for some reason not like the others. Oh well at least i know that J7 shows which way to pull on decisions in certain areas, all this does is make me wonder how he ruled on the Cory case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legions36 View Post
    I've heard so many name being called at posters in so many threads, all but this thread where its prohibited for some reason not like the others. Oh well at least i know that J7 shows which way to pull on decisions in certain areas, all this does is make me wonder how he ruled on the Cory case.
    What pisses me off is that Cory can directly infer that you and I are fond of a well-known molester and that's fine. But if I make a reference to pedophiles in general, J7's all over my ass like Sundusky in a shower stall. I can see how he might misread it at first glance, but to be unwilling to correct his own mistake displays obvious bias. As such, he should bow out of moderating all EZ threads if he can't keep an open mind.

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    I'm with you HedgeHog. I see insults bandied about in just about every thread I read where two or more posters have a difference of opinion. The pedophile reference was obviously referring to Sandusky. The scammer referred to Cory, so that is the insult -- which I have seen plenty of posters use to refer to Cory. It does appear that these infractions are not handed out impartially. I am willing to bet that this sort of insult, or even worse, can be found on almost any thread that is over one page long! If an infraction is going to be handed out for one insult, every insult should get one --- instead of the mods picking on posters they don't like.
    Last edited by BranchDavidian; 06-20-12 at 03:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BranchDavidian View Post
    I'm with you HedgeHog. I see insults bandied about in just about every thread I read where two or more posters have a difference of opinion. The pedophile reference was obviously referring to Sandusky. The scammer referred to Cory, so that is the insult -- which I have seen plenty of posters use to refer to Cory. It does appear that these infractions are not handed out impartially. I am willing to bet that this sort of insult, or even worse, can be found on almost any thread that is over one page long! If an infraction is going to be handed out for one insult, every insult should get one --- instead of the mods picking on posters they don't like.
    That is the correct reading of the context. However, J7 charges me with the pedophile remark which is easily defended as it was NOT directed at Cory in any way. I agree that I could also defend the indirect inference to scammer, but that's not what he flagged me for last night.

    There's an obvious pattern of J7's bias (see below). Over the past year I have received 5 infractions--all given by Justin7 in EZ threads. WTF, don't other Mods read EZ threads? How is it that he's the only one spotting infractions in these particular threads. Further, you'll see that one of his demerits got overturned--also due to his misinterpretation of another quote I made. Talk about an obvious agenda!


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    HH, what is the criteria for getting 'infractions' here? I saw in another thread someone say, and I quote, "I hate fags.' Is that infraction-able?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_orangekat View Post
    HH, what is the criteria for getting 'infractions' here? I saw in another thread someone say, and I quote, "I hate fags.' Is that infraction-able?
    Apparently not. But say "I hate scammers" in the EZ thread and expect a PM from Justin7.

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    I have some recent experience with the SBR legal system where an 'infraction' against me was removed after I spoke up in a corrective manner, like you're doing HH.
    I by know means have a lot of forum experience, and my time with SBR is in no doubt the most forum participation I possess.

    I think just about every interesting poster's work can found infraction worthy if examined close enough. In addition there are specific dynamics between individual posters and individual mods.

    All considered though, one if the under pinning reasons for the popularity and profitability of this site is its 'open and uncensored' credo.
    This credo creates obvious infraction related challenges, complicated further by both agenda/vendetta driven posters, and 'hang em high' low tolerance Mods.

    HedgeHog, I think in your case you unfortunately stumbled into the 'forbidden zone' of buzz words, regardless of your intentions. The mere alluding to the realm is why you got snagged.

    Basically anything that will put you harms way in prison, will put you in harms way here.
    The good news is ok and not ok have more definition than in most any other public arena.

    That's all I got people, thanks for listening.

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    Maybe next time keep SB&I posts professional and take your discussion of little boys to PT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    Maybe next time keep SB&I posts professional and take your discussion of little boys to PT.
    Maybe you should check the PT forum, because the thread in question is in there too (Easystreet Complaint). As such, is your point that my comment should have been tolerated by J7? If so, we agree.

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    No its that SB&I is a business forum and no place for comparing people to pedophiles here. Take the petty crybaby shit to PT.

    Standards should and do vary across subforums

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    No its that SB&I is a business forum and no place for comparing people to pedophiles here. Take the petty crybaby shit to PT.

    Standards should and do vary across subforums
    Hey genius, the thread is also in the PT forum so PT rules should apply. Regardless no poster was called a pedophile. Perhaps you can join J7 in a basic" reading for comprehension" class.

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    Hey stop it u two brutes!
    Read my highly articulated and brilliant post above!

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    I see, it is impossible for you to get pedophilia off your mind -- you have to bring it into threads about sportsbook payouts. Makes sense.

    Here's a reading comprehension test for you: where did I say you called a poster a pedophile? Ah ... Seems you are the one with a reading problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    I see, it is impossible for you to get pedophilia off your mind -- you have to bring it into threads about sportsbook payouts. Makes sense.

    Here's a reading comprehension test for you: where did I say you called a poster a pedophile? Ah ... Seems you are the one with a reading problem.
    You're arguing semantics? OK, so which person did I COMPARE to a Pedophile--Sandusky??? Last I checked, he doesn't post here. And BTW nice pic, when do you plan on giving Peter Pan back his hat?

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    Sorry, you were the one making reading comprehension comments like the big timer that you are. I love irony.

    HedgeHog the biggest whiner on SBR. Must be related to Tomato.

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    i have seen posters bash jews, blacks and hispanics, gays on a daily basis. I guess it is just who the like

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    Want some cheese with that whine? You've been insulting him for months without any evidence to back it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skrtelfan View Post
    Want some cheese with that whine? You've been insulting him for months without any evidence to back it up.
    No, but I'd like a reasonable explanation for the current infraction, preferably by the Mod who gave it. Also, I'd like to know why he's the only one handing them out in EZ threads. Too much to ask for a little clarification?

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    You got an infraction for calling a guy a pedophile and you can't figure out why?

    Lou or some other nitwit once gave me an infraction for quoting a BodogBecky blog post​ where she called herself "BlowjobBecky." I explained to the nitwit "You do realize I was quoting her blog, right?" but never got a response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skrtelfan View Post
    You got an infraction for calling a guy a pedophile and you can't figure out why?

    Lou or some other nitwit once gave me an infraction for quoting a BodogBecky blog post​ where she called herself "BlowjobBecky." I explained to the nitwit "You do realize I was quoting her blog, right?" but never got a response.
    I'll reserve another spot in the reading classroom. I didn't call any poster a pedophile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    I'll reserve another spot in the reading classroom. I didn't call any poster a pedophile.
    Correct, you called him a "pedifile." Your spot in the reading classroom is right down the hall.

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    This guy gets an infraction, opens a thread and whinges about it.
    Move this shit and your pedophile remarks to the Saloon.

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    Skrtelfan: Actually I'm enrolled in the Spellin' Class, Tommy got the last spot in Reading. And once again, the pedophile (which, yes, I horribly misspelled in my quote) remark was obviously toward Sandusky. Re-read the two quotes if you're not too busy "farting on cakes" (w/e the fukk that means).

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    You know HH your starting to piss me off now. I can't stand people super slow on the uptake, and so easily manipulated.
    Stop reposting the word over and over again that you DON'T want to be associated with.
    And stop answering every petty attempt to goad you on.
    Geez, you seemed a lot smarter to me when you wrote interesting observations about the name of this forum!

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    HH class A moron

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    Let me see if I understand. It is an infraction to insult Sandusky by calling him a pedophile, but it is ok to insult posters by calling them morons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BranchDavidian View Post
    Let me see if I understand. It is an infraction to insult Sandusky by calling him a pedophile, but it is ok to insult posters by calling them morons?
    add all the racists that flood SBR too

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Biased Mods should not be allowed to police the forums. Justin7's disdain for EZ Street, and apparent fondness of Cory1111, should exclude him from moderating any thread involving either. The infraction below is a horrible misuse of authority. Despite all efforts to explain the matter to him, he refuses to reconsider at all--"take it to Lou" he says. Unfortunately, PMs to SBR Lou for a second Mod's opinion have gone unaswered thus far.

    My infraction letter from last night appears below and I've underlined the post that J7 flagged. My statement corrects Cory's post that Legions and I condone Sandusky's action. I go on to say that Scammers and Pedophiles are alike in that they both twist things to their advantage (making bad behavior somehow appear innocent). Justin's take on all this is that I am inferring Cory is a pedophile, when the inference is clearly meant toward Sandusky. Anyone with an ounce of common sense can see what was meant if they read the two quotes together, instead of just taking my quote out of context. Since J7 refuses to admit he possibly made a mistake,
    Anyone with an ounce of common sense wouldn't do business with known thieves. Hate corey all you want, but easy street mugged him. Just because you don't like the victim doesn't mean there wasn't a crime

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    Justin7's final PM about his Phantom Infraction:

    I've already stated my position. You may press your appeal with Lou or Bill.

    Please don't PM (or cc) me anymore on this issue.




    So basically Justin shit the bed and wants another Mod to clean it up for him.....again. In an earlier PM, he insists that the "P" word I used was directed at Cory and not Sandusky. Guess we can add "fukkin mind reader" to his list of titles along with author and mod. Perhaps Lou, Bill, John or whomever can respond as I still want a second opinion.

    If it were just the one infraction, I'd let the matter go as a rare misunderstanding. But it's not. As shown earlier, every infraction I get is from him. Not one other Mod took offense to my many posts this past year, just J7 in EZ threads. Tell me again it's not personal. He should not be monitoring EZ threads, and this bogus demerit should be repealed.

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    Thread should be returned and the infraction deleted.

    If HH's points are debatable then all comers including SBR brass should debate them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Thread should be returned and the infraction deleted.

    If HH's points are debatable then all comers including SBR brass should debate them.
    Much appreciated. Thanks to Lou as well.
    Last edited by HedgeHog; 06-21-12 at 01:18 PM. Reason: Lou

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    Hedge,

    The infraction is reversed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Skrtelfan: Actually I'm enrolled in the Spellin' Class, Tommy got the last spot in Reading. And once again, the pedophile (which, yes, I horribly misspelled in my quote) remark was obviously toward Sandusky. Re-read the two quotes if you're not too busy "farting on cakes" (w/e the fukk that means).
    You were replying to Cory but talking about Sandusky. Ok there buddy. And EZ Street are the ones who fart on cakes.

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    an sbr mod gave me an infraction

    wow some people whine about everything

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