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    vitalyo
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    1vice.ag Void wagers .

    Game between Brazil vs Mexico 1vice voided all of my bets but then paid wagers on the MONEY LINE at readjusted price , that's fine .But the book voided AH wagers . LOL . Haw can you void handicapp wagers ? Bad line ? OK . Money line YES ,bad line readjusted . Why don't they do the same for AH ???

    LOOK .This is not palpable error !!! Bad book making YES .

    Obviously 1vice bookmakers didn't know that Brazil was fielding team B for this game ,I am sure they didn't know it was a netural venue .NOT a home game .(Across the board Brazil was listed as a HOME team while it was N venue ) That's what handicapping is all about
    Least they can do to adjust all of my bets to the average market price .
    FUNNY part starts here . +3 goals wager was voided LIVE when Mexico was up 2:0 in the 1st half! O/U and straight winner still pending wagers at the time (teams can comeback right , but +3 (voided while the game was played) . Again why wouldn't they void them all (see what happens). Only after the game was over . How nice of them !!
    Can't take the bets and void them / Can't void them after the event was over !
    Can't void them half way trough the game . NOW can they pay half of my wagers at the new price and toss away the other bets as a void ? If i would lose would they do the same ???

    Again i had never experience anything remote to this .
    Made two wagers +3 -130 for $360 , +3 -130 for $160 . VOIDED
    Money line wagers readjusted with a new price and paid .

    LOL .






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    +3 available only at 1vice, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squared Box View Post
    +3 available only at 1vice, right?
    betrevolution had same line +3 -130 . As i said it is a bad bookmaking .
    I contacted 1vice and Zach as a good will refunded my wagers for the draw = $49

    Now i have wagers for the money line graded with a new price .
    AH wagers voided
    Wagers for the draw refunded . I don't need them to be refunded .
    WTF happened here .
    The thing is . If 1 vice would grade my AH wagers at the market price they will pay more then - 130
    More likely EVEN odds . Can't adjust them as a money line ! + the # on AH is the + # with much juicer odds.
    All of my wagers came in on Mexico Money line O/U AH .
    The line on AH settled @ -1 +1 hours before the game !!! My wagers were voided when Mexico was up 2:0
    So pls don't try to be smart with me .
    GL.

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    1vice readjusted the line +1 -1 hours before the game
    The wagers got voided when Mexico was up 2:0
    Money line was readjusted after the game and paid. My guess the group took tons of money on the "sure" shot Brazil .
    I had never seen the Book paying half of the bets at the new price and refuse to do the same for the rest of the wagers .LOL my DRAW wagers got refunded as a good will
    MY AH wagers ! Not an easy task for 1vice /on how to readjust them ?
    Shits the team won straight up
    . So lets void them this way and pay ML at new price . 1 vice scored big . Congrats

    GL .


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    Where is gummy bears to explain this debacle?

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    I emailed you 1 hour before the game started so that you could place the wagers again with the correct line. I did not even receive a reply from your email.

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    Here is a copy of the email that I sent you BEFORE the game started:

    Hello XXX,


    The soccer line for Mexico was backwards. We are cancelling the bets.


    Regards,


    George

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    what a joke of a book!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gummy bears View Post
    I emailed you 1 hour before the game started so that you could place the wagers again with the correct line. I did not even receive a reply from your email.

    If you can't afford to hire people to move lines quick and efficiently than thats on you. If the line isn't an obvious bad line "Aka a number that never existed on the market at the other major books" than you are supposed to honor the wager.

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    Yes our line movers make mistakes, it happens everywhere. Most of the sportsbooks out there will void the bet when the mistake is found. We found it early enough where the player had a chance to repost the bet with the correct line( a lot of places wont even bother to contact the player to notify him). He knew he was taking a bad line and he chose to take advantage of it instead of contacting the book. He took a shot and he lost. Thats the bottom line here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitalyo View Post
    betrevolution had same line +3 -130 . As i said it is a bad bookmaking .
    I contacted 1vice and Zach as a good will refunded my wagers for the draw = $49

    Now i have wagers for the money line graded with a new price .
    AH wagers voided
    Wagers for the draw refunded . I don't need them to be refunded .
    WTF happened here .
    The thing is . If 1 vice would grade my AH wagers at the market price they will pay more then - 130
    More likely EVEN odds . Can't adjust them as a money line ! + the # on AH is the + # with much juicer odds.
    All of my wagers came in on Mexico Money line O/U AH .
    The line on AH settled @ -1 +1 hours before the game !!! My wagers were voided when Mexico was up 2:0
    So pls don't try to be smart with me .
    GL.
    Betrevolution and 1vice clone their lines from the same bookmaker feed.

    Errors in Bookmakers feed are common although Bookmaker never makes the error on their site, not sure if it is just a software glitch or if Bookmaker intentionally does it just to screw over copy cat books who can not book their own numbers.

    This was an obvious line error and the book has the right to cancel the bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApricotSinner32 View Post
    If you can't afford to hire people to move lines quick and efficiently than thats on you. If the line isn't an obvious bad line "Aka a number that never existed on the market at the other major books" than you are supposed to honor the wager.
    O/U was 2.75 goals I would say +3 (-130) was a bad line.

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    Oh ok well I didn't read the post to well I thought we were talking about a steam move that the poster bet on. My mistake

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    Get lost. +3 -130 @ that game is a blatant bad line. 1Vice is right on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gummy bears View Post
    I emailed you 1 hour before the game started so that you could place the wagers again with the correct line. I did not even receive a reply from your email.
    Dear gummy bears that's a lie ! You did not send me any email !!!
    My wagers were sitting as pending right trough the first half and only got voided when Mexico was up 2:0 !
    Take a screen shot of your email with the time stamp and post it here We all wanna see this email .

    GL.

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    The issue is been solved . Zack credited my account in full .
    He is claiming he wasn't aware of this issue .
    I can not fix a problem if I do not know about it!
    Any way it's all good now .

    Cheers .

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    It might be at your junk/spam box. Anyhow Im glad that it was fixed. For future reference I would always appreciate it if you contact us directly before you put it up here. Good luck to you!

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    Have no fears gummy gears is here...Whats the latest bonuses at 1 Vice Gummy,Im pulling out of Betislands?

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    150% fp 12x RO

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    Ok tx Gummy gears....Im gonna give it a shot

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    I will say that Griffen and George try hard to do whats right. I took some of my 5Dimes winnings to try them out. Yesterday I gad a tennis wager on Tsonga to win and the game was stopped with Tsonga winning 4-2 in the final set. Most books let the wager stand because it will be finished the next morning. 1VICE canceled the wagers because they said it messes up their accounting for the week. I was not happy because I had a sure winner. I also had an if wager off of this play that was already a winnner. Griffen made thing right and gave me my winnings. They really try hard to do right by the player as best I can see so far. Props to them so far. I am gonna try a payout pretty soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BET THE HOOK View Post
    I will say that Griffen and George try hard to do whats right. I took some of my 5Dimes winnings to try them out. Yesterday I gad a tennis wager on Tsonga to win and the game was stopped with Tsonga winning 4-2 in the final set. Most books let the wager stand because it will be finished the next morning. 1VICE canceled the wagers because they said it messes up their accounting for the week. I was not happy because I had a sure winner. I also had an if wager off of this play that was already a winnner. Griffen made thing right and gave me my winnings. They really try hard to do right by the player as best I can see so far. Props to them so far. I am gonna try a payout pretty soon.
    Actually what they are doing here is screwing the customer. You caught it, but imagine 5 out of 20 people did not catch it, or just thought it was standard sportsbook procedure. They knew they were going to lose on the favorite and they voided the bets. Any other sportsbook would have just waited until the next day when the match was done.

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    I wish Gummy's book would let me play there again, they banned me because i won a little

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    cancelling tennis wagers in play, wtf? shady practice.

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    I am thinking of sending 1vice a dime for that bonus he mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZetaPsi808 View Post
    I am thinking of sending 1vice a dime for that bonus he mentioned.
    12x rollover? No way you will last that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommygun View Post
    cancelling tennis wagers in play, wtf? shady practice.
    Big time shady...wouldn't deposit there unless they paid me to...

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    gummy bears, you need to fix that with the tennis bets. Especially when you don't even have tennis rules posted. (Or if you do, I can't find them after 5 mins of looking). 99.9% of my bets are tennis and I have never heard of a book cancelling wagers in play, even if they carry over 3 days due to rain. If a book did that to me, I'd be out of there never to return regardless if my player was ahead or behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    gummy bears, you need to fix that with the tennis bets. Especially when you don't even have tennis rules posted. (Or if you do, I can't find them after 5 mins of looking). 99.9% of my bets are tennis and I have never heard of a book cancelling wagers in play, even if they carry over 3 days due to rain. If a book did that to me, I'd be out of there never to return regardless if my player was ahead or behind.
    When a mod calls them out, you know you should get your money out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Beast View Post
    When a mod calls them out, you know you should get your money out...
    Nah I was just talking as a gambler. The first thing I do when I'm deciding whether or not to try out a book is to check out their tennis rules. I've never come across a case where I couldn't find them but I suppose I would've jumped on live chat to ask how they grade retirements as that varies from book to book. I would never ever think to ask how they handle a match carrying over to the next day because that's just a given. If that rule was posted somewhere and I still chose to bet with them then fair enough - although I never would with that rule, especially in France where it rains regularly and the courts don't have lights - but if it's not posted, the bets should stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommygun View Post
    cancelling tennis wagers in play, wtf? shady practice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    Nah I was just talking as a gambler. The first thing I do when I'm deciding whether or not to try out a book is to check out their tennis rules. I've never come across a case where I couldn't find them but I suppose I would've jumped on live chat to ask how they grade retirements as that varies from book to book. I would never ever think to ask how they handle a match carrying over to the next day because that's just a given. If that rule was posted somewhere and I still chose to bet with them then fair enough - although I never would with that rule, especially in France where it rains regularly and the courts don't have lights - but if it's not posted, the bets should stand.
    Shari where are your winninig tennis tips, you've lost the plot these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommygun View Post
    Shari where are your winninig tennis tips, you've lost the plot these days.
    What? I've been posting in EP's thread. 3-0 today so I'm done.

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    so if i am reading this right

    the OP took a shot on a obvious bad line and still got paid?

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    It seems to me that they are a very amateur book.

    "1VICE canceled the wagers because they said it messes up their accounting for the week."

    They don't even have sports-specific rules listed on there site.... Absolutely horrible.

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