[Highness]

wow this wantitall4moi guy REALLY wants everyone to believe his story with the lengths he's going to tell it. always the sign of being full of it

[jgilmartin]

Can either of you guys show me ONE post mentioning this in the past? I couldn't find one word of it here.

Can't remember exactly which thread but I believe there was a HTT thread where somebody was talking about Ganch working for Heritage.

[HoulihansTX]

This was news to some of us.

[rfr3sh]

go to around 2:22

[Scooter]

wantitall4moi - "I made enough money gambling to never have to work again. I basically quit altogether in 08 when I got married."

Joined: 04-17-10
Posts: 1,257

Joined: 04-17-10

Posts: 1,257

wantitall4moi - "I was old school ALWAYS post up. no credit. Not that I couldnt get credit had it extended more than a few times, but I liked it the way I did it."


"I also never took any roll over bonuses or any of that nonsense."

"But back then you still only needed 5 outs to get the best numbers 99% of the time."

[calamity]

never heard of him.

[shari91]

Can either of you guys show me ONE post mentioning this in the past? I couldn't find one word of it here.

There are a few posts mentioning it in this thread. http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...change-p4.html

Also I've seen it elsewhere but this was the first one that came to mind.

ETA - Freshy posted the vid I was thinking of. Ty!

[Ace_of_Spades]

This is very old news, Ganchrow has been with Heritage, this is no news at all.. Maybe to the newbies of SBR that probably have no clue who he is in the first place. May Jesus Christ Bless Ganch and his statistics!

Yeah cos a Jew like yourself knows everything and everyone in the business. Your shitt is getting old clown.

[LT Profits]

go to around 2:22

There are a few posts mentioning it in this thread. http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...change-p4.html

Also I've seen it elsewhere but this was the first one that came to mind.

ETA - Freshy posted the vid I was thinking of. Ty!

Thank you Guy & Gal. I had never watched the video nor had I delved that deep into that thread thinking it was all about the exchange, ergo my ignorance on the matter. (Well, until a couple of days ago).

[shari91]

Thank you Guy & Gal. I had never watched the video nor had I delved that deep into that thread thinking it was all about the exchange, ergo my ignorance on the matter. (Well, until a couple of days ago).

For every person who knew, I'm sure there were many more who didn't so this was still a great heads up considering they're now here at SBR. Even if they weren't, it's always nice to have a Ganchrow thread. Hopefully he pops back on here soon to say hi.

[The Kraken]

This is the irony to sportsbetting.

I'm nowhere near as "sharp" as Ganchrow, yet basically I'm going heads-up with him. He gets +110 and I get -110. No way I can compete with that. Only a few here can, Durito and 4LC, JJgold, etc.... Not many others. Guys that think they can win long term with these books that employ people that have forgotten more than most of us will ever know are straight up delusional.

[jjgold]

This is the irony to sportsbetting.

I'm nowhere near as "sharp" as Ganchrow, yet basically I'm going heads-up with him. He gets +110 and I get -110. No way I can compete with that. Only a few here can, Durito and 4LC, JJgold, etc.... Not many others. Guys that think they can win long term with these books that employ people that have forgotten more than most of us will ever know are straight up delusional.

Solid poster Kracken

[greatski]

4moi

[FourLengthsClear]

Wanty you should write a book on how to win gambling

I bet your methods back in 2003-2008 would not work now due to US Gambling Laws

Insomniacs might buy it.
There are only so many ways you can express "just pick winners", "bet both sides" and "math doesn't matter".

On the matter of the OP, I wonder what he is actually doing at Heritage. Are they looking to expand their customer base and move away from being a rec/square book?

[SBR_John]

This is the irony to sportsbetting.

I'm nowhere near as "sharp" as Ganchrow, yet basically I'm going heads-up with him. He gets +110 and I get -110. No way I can compete with that. Only a few here can, Durito and 4LC, JJgold, etc.... Not many others. Guys that think they can win long term with these books that employ people that have forgotten more than most of us will ever know are straight up delusional.

Good post but you are not exactly going "heads up" with Ganch. More accurately you are playing against the market. Ganch will try to make sure you get a fair market number but he has no personal opinion on 99% of the games.

[FourLengthsClear]

For every person who knew, I'm sure there were many more who didn't so this was still a great heads up considering they're now here at SBR. Even if they weren't, it's always nice to have a Ganchrow thread. Hopefully he pops back on here soon to say hi.

He has been snooping around. I got a (fairly typical) PM from him not long ago.

I chanced upon your post in the thread http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/handicappe...djustment.html and couldn't help myself but to note a native Excel approximation of same:

=CRITBINOM(INFINITY,(dMean-(1-dVal))/INFINITY,dVal)

where Infinity would be the maximum allowable value for the first argument to CRITBINOM(2^31-2) on my 32-bit machine and with the (1-dVal) in a place as a rough continuity correction-type fudge factor.

Anyway ... just a very casual observation apropos of nothing.

[shari91]

He has been snooping around. I got a (fairly typical) PM from him not long ago.

I'm sure you'll be stunned to hear I have no bloody clue wtf that PM means. But thank you... I've been meaning to check if he's popped in lately and I'm happy to see that he has. We're very lucky that he ever was here at all. His "TT threads for dummies" are bookmarked on every computer I have and always will be. Guy is a legend and a sweetheart.

[PuckOff]

THAT'S what guys with actual brains and ability should be able to do via sports betting.

Guys with actual brains and ability shouldn't end up in prison, son.

[LT Profits]

Insomniacs might buy it.
There are only so many ways you can express "just pick winners", "bet both sides" and "math doesn't matter".

On the matter of the OP, I wonder what he is actually doing at Heritage. Are they looking to expand their customer base and move away from being a rec/square book?

I see they now added dropdown boxes. I feel like I am betting at Pinny again.

[The Kraken]

Good post but you are not exactly going "heads up" with Ganch. More accurately you are playing against the market. Ganch will try to make sure you get a fair market number but he has no personal opinion on 99% of the games.

I see your point and agree that im not really heads up with ganchrow. But the books business is making money and he's on their side and that scares me. Now, im at odds with the books because my goal is in direct conflict with their goals. So it was a bit simplistic, or even flat out incorrect, to view it as heads up vs. ganchrow but to some degree i think his job is more about making money for the business than giving me a fair number. Maybe an enticing number, yes.

I really dont know much about booking, especially at this grand of a scale, but sure to hell know i dont like that ganchrow is on their team.

[raydog]

yeah, ganch works there..
as for the rest of this thread... very deep bullshit we are stepping in with contradiction splattered all over the place...some kids, married or not, job or not, need to grow up and cut the story telling..nobody believes it or cares...jaysus

[rm18]

the bettor always has the advantage the bookie only gives the bettor the chance to beat themselves, because if the line is accurate you dont have to bet

[pimike]

Good post but you are not exactly going "heads up" with Ganch. More accurately you are playing against the market. Ganch will try to make sure you get a fair market number but he has no personal opinion on 99% of the games.

This is true. I'm happy for Ganch and Heritage here. Gangh is a great person and all about #s not about screwing people.

[RickySteve]

The wife is also a great person to hang out with.

Wow, nice post dipsh t. Maybe try to have a f cking clue before you publicly embarrass yourself pretending to be someone's best f cking friend.

I guess not much can be expected from a fake bookie scared sh tless of a $500 NFL bet. On average how many $10 parlays does it take for you to afford an 8-ball? A rough estimate is fine...

[CarpeDime]

This is the irony to sportsbetting.

I'm nowhere near as "sharp" as Ganchrow, yet basically I'm going heads-up with him. He gets +110 and I get -110. No way I can compete with that. Only a few here can, Durito and 4LC, JJgold, etc.... Not many others. Guys that think they can win long term with these books that employ people that have forgotten more than most of us will ever know are straight up delusional.

you aren't going up "against Ganch" you are still just going up against the market as a whole

ganch's main value to Heritage is in risk management

[CarpeDime]

Good post but you are not exactly going "heads up" with Ganch. More accurately you are playing against the market. Ganch will try to make sure you get a fair market number but he has no personal opinion on 99% of the games.

haha wow i swear i hadnt seen this when i posted almost the exact same thing, a little while later

[RickySteve]

Ganch will try to make sure you get a fair market number but he has no personal opinion on 99% of the games.

I'm gonna go ahead and bump that up one more percent.

[Winner_13]

granchrow said that he got limited on nba by pinny..so he does bet

[pimike]

Wow, nice post dipsh t. Maybe try to have a f cking clue before you publicly embarrass yourself pretending to be someone's best f cking friend.

I guess not much can be expected from a fake bookie scared sh tless of a $500 NFL bet. On average how many $10 parlays does it take for you to afford an 8-ball? A rough estimate is fine...

Ouch!

[Not Matt Rain]

I thought he was on some top secret SBR mission . Guess I had some bad intel.

Can't believe that this went unnoticed. lololololol

[blittydeuce]

Can't believe that this went unnoticed. lololololol

troublemaker

[jjgold]

Never heard of a guy that got limited at Pinnacle
That cannot be true

[CarpeDime]

On average how many $10 parlays does it take for you to afford an 8-ball? A rough estimate is fine...

In CR an 8-ball would usually be about $60, and should be relatively high quality unless you are buying from a random cab driver or local scumbag and then who knows what you are getting. You might expect that it would be cheaper, and indeed you can very likely find great deals if you can find a hook, but that is somewhat difficult for a gringo.

In Ecuador, Columbia, places like that, you should be able to get an 8 of pure stuff for $30.

[jjgold]

In CR an 8-ball would usually be about $60, and should be relatively high quality unless you are buying from a random cab driver or local scumbag and then who knows what you are getting. You might expect that it would be cheaper, and indeed you can very likely find great deals if you can find a hook, but that is somewhat difficult for a gringo.

In Ecuador, Columbia, places like that, you should be able to get an 8 of pure stuff for $30.

[yisman]

Can't believe that this went unnoticed. lololololol

Pretty sure the original post was intended as a joke.