Originally Posted by
saintpeter
1. The gambling have two faces, win or loose... if they dont limit you when you loose why they will limit you when you win?
Yes, you can win and you can also lose - the customer signs up with a book knowing this and they still choose to do so anyway. If a book limited every loser and let the winners win as much as they want then they are not a book, they are an out of business book. Sportsbooks are not banks - they are a business that offers a service to people, it is up to the people whether they choose to use that service or not, and likewise it is in the books interest to limit people who are bad for business for them - rightly or wrongly, but either way every business has the right to not do business with someone who is costing them money.
Say you run a restaurant and a customer complains about this and that so much that in the end you give them a free bottle of wine, or knock something off of the bill - if they do this once then thats one thing. But say the same customer comes in a week later and starts trying to do the same to get another freebie - is the owner not in their rights to ban that customer from ever eating there again ? I mean people have to eat right, so by your logic by refusing to serve this customer then the restaurant is making them starve and therefore could be sued as well.
2. When they start working and avertising their site, they were using the name "Bet & Win", but the fact was that not every single bet you were placing, you were wining. Then someone move them a court case and they were forced to change their name.
Wasnt aware f this, but never really used BWin so will take your word for it.
3. When you open your account and even when you read your terms and conditions, there isn't any information and nobody told you that you will be limited if you became a winner...
They tell you that they can limit you as and when they see fit in most cases, but if you still agree to sign up knowing that they can limit you whenever they want to, then you cant complain when they do limit you regardless of the reason they give.
4. Their excuse to such limit is that such a while they are verifying accounts and for the current moment is the best option for me to have that limit. So, they care about my winnings and they dont care about my looses?
Of course they care about your winnings - every single business on this planet cares about something that is costing them money, whether over the short term or the long term. Whether it be fuel costs, expenses, price of raw materials + manufacturing etc, and every business has the right to choose to do what it can to protect themselves and limit those costs - whether that means moving manufacturing to India or somewhere where these costs are lower for them, or whatever.
5. If they can't handle they business stay out of the markets... i have 8 people living in my home, maybe i need to start opening accounts on the name of each one and get as much money as possible till they have limits on all accounts then... it's not polite, i didn't did that and i want the respect that every gambler likes to have it...
Really not advisable, and for someone who professes to be a professional gambler, and has years of experience gambling online, then I would have thought that the reasons this is not advisable should be perfectly clear to you.
The fact is that they are on internet, internet is free but there are something running and being developed about internet crime and rules that fit every single business or website no matter which country is installed.
They are a business, businesses are not free no matter where they are.
I make the money with bets, and made tons per day.... blame me to have a good acurancy... but i can't be limited just because i'm good or just because they can't identify my betting pattern... it's not fair!
Agreed, it isnt fair, but when has business ever been about fairness.
And ofc i using other bet services... i trade on currencies and on sportbetting... that's my way of life for so many years...
Then keep using the others and making your money there instead.
Gamble for some people is a decease, and companies like BWIN take advantage of this people in order to suck as much money as possible... and i dont see them placing limits into the accounts of these persons... the very few that can have some consistency on winnings are limited or their accounts are just closed with the excuse of the local of residense is on a country where they are not alowed to operate... but again, the account was allowed to open and they didn't care about that till they start loosing money....
I just want to be fair,,, that's all!
Cheers
saint