[zoo youk]

I took 11 point tease -225. Pats and Saints. Saints line at was -3.5 -110 which I got saints +7.5...now the Pats line was -13.5 -110 but they also had hanging the Pats -15 +115

they gave me the Pats at -4 meaning they took the 11 off the 15,they did not give me the 13.5 but my bet is still charging me -225 and the +115 is not factoring in. here is copy of live chat.


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You are now chatting with 'Diana'
Diana: Hello. How may I assist you today?
me: hi diana
me: i did a two team 11 point teaser with the Patriots and the Saints and it came out Saints +7.5 which is correct but it gave me the Patriots -4...with the Pats current line at -13.5 -110 shouldnt I have received the Pats -2.5
Diana: can I have the ticket?
me: $125.00 $50.00 Pending 2 Team Teaser (ties lose) Teaser tl 11fb & 8bk Pending 1/14/12 4:30pm NFL Football 109 New Orleans Saints +7½ * vs San Francisco 49ers Pending 1/14/12 8:00pm NFL Football 112 New England Patriots -4 * vs Denver Broncos
Diana: Just a moment please
Diana: the line seems to be ok
Diana: maybe it changed as you were taking it
me: how so?
me: no..its been steadily at 13.5
Diana: I will ask a manager
me: it gave me the -15 you guys have posted at +115
Diana: what should the line be then?
me: the -13.5 is -110
me: 13.5
Diana: Just a moment please
me: ok
Diana: so it should have been 13.5 and gave you 7.5?
me: what?
me: no..
me: 11 point tease...you guys have posted -15 +115 and 13.5 -110(which is the correct game line)
me: so it gave me the 15-11 which equals Pats -4, when in reality in should have gave me Pats 13.5 -11 which equals 2.5
Diana: but you took the 15 one according to the ticket
me: no i didnt...the odds are still at -225...if i took the 225 the +115 would be factored in and its not
Diana: Just a moment please
Diana: it is +115
Diana: for the patriots
me: YES at -15!
me: the line is -13.5 -110
Diana: Just a moment please
me: could you transfer me to a manager please
Diana: Just a moment please
me: do you understand what im saying..if I took the 15 the +115 would have been factoring in and its not..its still charging me at -225...hence I selected the pats -13.5 and it made an error and subtracted the 11 from the 15 and not the 13.5
Diana: yes
Diana: I am asking a manger
Diana: he is checking
me: ok np
me: not trying to be a jerk...just makings sure we are on the same page
Diana: yes, I know
Diana: you choose a 11 point teaser in football
Diana: main lines in nfl are the only lines you can choose to do teasers
Diana: the main line in New England is -15 +110
Diana: 15 - 11 = -4, exactly what you ended it up with
me: how is that the main line..the main line is always -110 that makes absolutely no sense
Diana: and also Saints main line is -3.5 , -3.5 + 11 = +7.5
me: the new england -15 +115 is your alternative line
me: across the board it is new england -13.5
Diana: No sir, main line is the one with a moneyline next to it
Diana: we do our FLAT line wich is -13.5 on an alternate line
me: can i speak to a manager
Diana: Flat line not the same as MAIN line
Diana: Yes, you need to call in. 1 800 4420151 and ask for Robert.
me: well than the price should chance on my bet as the +115 wasnt factored in to the -225
Diana: he will talk to you if you have any questions
Diana: if you need payouts then you should refer to our chart listed on the site

[Glitch]

well you'd be able to argue a win or loss by the number but the teasers are a flat rate per selection...i think they give you -225 on the risk amount. Not on the odds.

so you got screwed but i guess they are saying the one that is automatically displayed and has ml next to it is the main line they use to figure the new teaser spread.

[zoo youk]

I want the 2.5 which is what I was supposed to get..not the 4. I am not quite understanding what they mean by "main line is the one with the money line next to it"

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

But Denver's going to win anyways so is a mute point

[playersonly69]

That is WHY they post the lines in such fashion, it is to affect the teasers.

They have always done this and do it every week to be honest, they will never change this nor do they need to. You could always take the underdog and the better end of the deal.


Pinnacle and other books do the same thing. Have you ever seen how pinnacle and alot of book will put up line of -9.5 and -9 when the line is really -7.5 at other books? Well it is to offset the teasers

[Mikail]

This is not the first time I've heard of books doing this. That it why you always must check your wager before you confirm it.

[michael777]

5dimes has been doing this with teasers for quite a long time

[ebbearsfb1]

Didn't u check before u put ur password in? Or did u not submit the ticket ?

[SportsMushroom]

what dont you understand? its fairly simple

the line that is displayed as soon as you open the page is the main line, if you have to click on a button or a drop down box to find a line then that is an alternate line

you are either pretending not to know that or its your first time gambling

also it is common practice to use main lines to calculate teasers, its the only thing that makes sense, if they just let you pick whatever line you want to make your teaser that would not be smart

[darkhat]

yah it sucks, too bad you didn't realize before you confirmed with your password.

[zoo youk]

fuckin gay.

[LVHerbie]

Right or wrong 5dimes shades their lines to protect against certain teasers and you have to verify the real number before placing the bet... Juice on the main line isn't factored into teasers and this is standard everywhere (which is what allows them to shade their lines)...

Most of time you going to better off playing teasers somewhere else besides 5dimes...

[Brick]

Good old teaser protection

[milwaukee mike]

Right or wrong 5dimes shades their lines to protect against certain teasers and you have to verify the real number before placing the bet... Juice on the main line isn't factored into teasers and this is standard everywhere (which is what allows them to shade their lines)...

Most of time you going to better off playing teasers somewhere else besides 5dimes...

5dimes has goofy lines like this all the time as the "main line"

just like people have said here it's to screw teasers over

[Glitch]

I want the 2.5 which is what I was supposed to get..not the 4. I am not quite understanding what they mean by "main line is the one with the money line next to it"

if you get a manager on, you can cancel it- if the line has not changed since bet placement but they will probably tell you thats the only time you can do that. that is deceptive on their part and a supervisor will understand.

they couldnt change the payout but they could cancel the bet because they tricked you with a tricky line. (even though their general policy is not to) they have cancelled many for me when i brought them a technicality. they always say its the last time.

[playersonly69]

I should say on MANY occassions I am taking the other side who is getting the added points however

[playersonly69]

if you get a manager on, you can cancel it- if the line has not changed since bet placement but they will probably tell you thats the only time you can do that. that is deceptive on their part and a supervisor will understand.

they couldnt change the payout but they could cancel the bet because they tricked you with a tricky line. (even though their general policy is not to) they have cancelled many for me when i brought them a technicality. they always say its the last time.

But they didnt trick anyone! That is the line plain and simple

[cant call it]

This is not the first time I've heard of books doing this. That it why you always must check your wager before you confirm it.

[5mike5]

no ground to stand on....check it

[zoo youk]

if you get a manager on, you can cancel it- if the line has not changed since bet placement but they will probably tell you thats the only time you can do that. that is deceptive on their part and a supervisor will understand.

they couldnt change the payout but they could cancel the bet because they tricked you with a tricky line. (even though their general policy is not to) they have cancelled many for me when i brought them a technicality. they always say its the last time.

they went ahead and canceled it for me...thanks for the advice.

[LT Profits]

They were very nice to cancel because they did nothing wrong. 5 Dimes always teases off the their main line and NOT the -110 line on the dropdown and all of their teasers have fixed odds, meaning it does not matter if the line being teased off of is at -110 or +130 or -150. You should know that going in.

[davidchong]

you saved $125

[zoo youk]

They were very nice to cancel because they did nothing wrong. 5 Dimes always teases off the their main line and NOT the -110 line on the dropdown and all of their teasers have fixed odds, meaning it does not matter if the line being teased off of is at -110 or +130 or -150. You should know that going in.

well now I do. not normally a teasers player. lesson learned.

[SHARP69]

Good for you

[warriorfan707]

The main line should not be an altered line, thats retarded

[LT Profits]

The main line should not be an altered line, thats retarded

But the very reason (and only reason) for that being the main line is for teaser protection. And yes it's fair because your can tease the more favorable side with the added points if you want to (i.e., teasing Denver +15 instead of the conventional +13.5).

[5mike5]

But the very reason (and only reason) for that being the main line is for teaser protection. And yes it's fair because your can tease the more favorable side with the added points if you want to (i.e., teasing Denver +15 instead of the conventional +13.5).

exactly

[jjaycuny]

The main line should not be an altered line, thats retarded

Exactly. I thought that when they display the alt line that can be changed by the drop box back to a -110, that -110 was still the main line

[CityCowboy]

The line that you see at the top is the main line and it's the only line that is available for a teaser. Any line that you see below the top line cannot be used for teasers because they are alternate lines that other books are not offering but it is being offered by 5 dimes as an alternate line for you to have more choices but only the main sportsbook line at that moment can be teased, not the alternate options that are already more to the clients favor. The flat line is not always the main line and in this case the flat line was an alt line.

[michael777]

i'm confused

[jjaycuny]

The line that you see at the top is the main line and it's the only line that is available for a teaser. Any line that you see below the top line cannot be used for teasers because they are alternate lines that other books are not offering but it is being offered by 5 dimes as an alternate line for you to have more choices but only the main sportsbook line at that moment can be teased, not the alternate options that are already more to the clients favor. The flat line is not always the main line and in this case the flat line was an alt line.

so in other words, if they are displaying an alt line, and you go to the drop box and select a -110 line, that -110 line is not the main line? I find that strange. I thought all -110 lines are considered the "main lines"

[FourLengthsClear]

5Dimes do this with their teaser number a lot - almost always when it is 'wongable' and very often in/around key numbers.

Their are lots of complaints about it but they don't go anywhere given that a) you are asked to confirm the bet with the numbers displayed and b) there is nominally a better value on the other side.

[Kindred]

5slimes is garbage especially for teasers

[zoo youk]

I cant bet there anymore

Live betting is like crack to me and i always lose my ass on it. I lost everything in live betting tonight from this bet that was canceled

Blessing in disguise really all hard work to grind out a nice balance than always just to lose it in a matter of minutes live betting.

[ThaWoj]

yep good old teaser shading.

i actually (sometimes) like that they do this b/c i generally take dogs when i tease so this offers more value for me. im getting the dog, at say -135 or so, and my teaser is still paying as if it was -110.

they shade these teasers knowing the majority of the public takes the chalk and they try to make it go thru the key numbers -- e.g. saints will be 7 point chalk but theyll make the line saints -9.5 +140 or so that when u tease it down youll get -3.5 instead of under 3