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    BetOnline rating

    I was gonna with this book but considering all the problems, i said no thanks. When will SBR lower the rating on BetOnline? Customer service sucks, people money getting stolen, charging people for deposit that not being credited, etc.

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    Surprised i didnt get an infraction

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    Quote Originally Posted by gridiron guru View Post
    I was gonna with this book but considering all the problems, i said no thanks. When will SBR lower the rating on BetOnline? Customer service sucks, people money getting stolen, charging people for deposit that not being credited, etc.

    Customer service sucks TRUE
    People money getting stolen FALSE
    Charging people for deposit that not being credited TRUE, BUT GETS CORRECTED


    No one has ever had money stolen. The customer service is abysmal, and needs improvement immediately. The whole deposit thing is a temporary issue that is resolved.

    BetOnline has enough issues without exaggerating. BetOnline could have been one the great books, but they just keep failing in essential areas of the business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gridiron guru View Post
    Surprised i didnt get an infraction
    Why would you get an infraction? You're just stating an opinion in a professional manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Why would you get an infraction? You're just stating an opinion in a professional manner.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtneer1212 View Post
    Customer service sucks TRUE
    People money getting stolen FALSE
    Charging people for deposit that not being credited TRUE, BUT GETS CORRECTED


    No one has ever had money stolen. The customer service is abysmal, and needs improvement immediately. The whole deposit thing is a temporary issue that is resolved.

    BetOnline has enough issues without exaggerating. BetOnline could have been one the great books, but they just keep failing in essential areas of the business.
    Not so sure it is a false statement that BOL hasn't ever stolen funds. They have made blatant attemps to do so, but end up paying when caught by sponsors/ forums. Very likely BOL has gotten away with stealing legit funds from someone unaware of available options like SBR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Not so sure it is a false statement that BOL hasn't ever stolen funds. They have made blatant attemps to do so, but end up paying when caught by sponsors/ forums. Very likely BOL has gotten away with stealing legit funds from someone unaware of available options like SBR.
    Well if u find out this from a source please let me know as i would like to know this. I have been on other forums as well and have never heard of them stealing money from players only alot of issues that could easily be stopped if they wanted them to, but from everything that has happened all issues have been resolved.
    SBR Rated B+ i could have sworn with this type of rating your $ is totally safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Not so sure it is a false statement that BOL hasn't ever stolen funds. They have made blatant attemps to do so, but end up paying when caught by sponsors/ forums. Very likely BOL has gotten away with stealing legit funds from someone unaware of available options like SBR.

    I will assume it is true when there is evidence that is has occurred. Until then, it is false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtneer1212 View Post
    I will assume it is true when there is evidence that is has occurred. Until then, it is false.
    It's not false--it's unknown/unproven at this point. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened yet--more than likely BOL has gotten away with theft against some poor sap.

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    name a book that hasnt

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    name a book that hasnt
    Can't do it and that's my point. You can't prove a negative. But given BOL's recent attempts at poker theft, it's highly likely they cheated some poor sucker.
    Last edited by HedgeHog; 12-04-11 at 07:31 PM.

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    BOL and last years B+ cinderella Bet Phoenix are akin. I think even Bet Phoenix has paid everyone (not certain and if I am wrong please correct me). The drag on bare knuckle tooth extraction methods of getting the cash out vexes people. Within a month or two, after BP stopped being a sponsor a ratings adjustment was done. After football season is when you might see it

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    Quote Originally Posted by gridiron guru View Post
    I was gonna with this book but considering all the problems, i said no thanks. When will SBR lower the rating on BetOnline? Customer service sucks, people money getting stolen, charging people for deposit that not being credited, etc.

    Maybe when they stop paying SBR then SBR will lower the rating

    Obummer has no chance in 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by mighty maron View Post
    BOL and last years B+ cinderella Bet Phoenix are akin. I think even Bet Phoenix has paid everyone (not certain and if I am wrong please correct me). The drag on bare knuckle tooth extraction methods of getting the cash out vexes people. Within a month or two, after BP stopped being a sponsor a ratings adjustment was done. After football season is when you might see it

    BP ewallet payouts last year: 3+ months
    BO ewallet payouts this year: 1 day

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    It's not false--it's unknown/unproven at this point. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened yet--more than likely BOL has gotten away with theft against some poor sap.
    I hope you never serve on a jury.

    Well, it doesn't looked like he killed anyone in this case, but I'm sure he has killed others, so I say fry him.

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    I was referring to the probabilty of a statement being true or false. You are looking at it from a legal perspective where the standard is much higher. It is very likely that BOL has stolen funds and gotten away with it. Are they guilty of this beyond a reasonable doubt? Probably not.
    Last edited by HedgeHog; 12-05-11 at 06:10 AM.

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    Can someone actually link to some valid cases of Betonline "stolen" funds that isnt from a shot taker? There is absolutley no substance to this thread that I can see and I have never had any problems with being paid personally from BetOnline, if there are problems with payouts I would love to see the actual cases.

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    Guess you missed the recent attempted theft of 65k from a poker winner. There was no proof that he was a shottaker or chip dumper. W/O SBR's help the guy would've been stiffed. Now another 26k poker winner is being given the runaround on his winnings w/o any evidence of foul play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregm View Post
    Can someone actually link to some valid cases of Betonline "stolen" funds that isnt from a shot taker? There is absolutley no substance to this thread that I can see and I have never had any problems with being paid personally from BetOnline, if there are problems with payouts I would love to see the actual cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtneer1212 View Post
    I hope you never serve on a jury.

    Well, it doesn't looked like he killed anyone in this case, but I'm sure he has killed others, so I say fry him.
    Lol thats some funny sh-it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Not so sure it is a false statement that BOL hasn't ever stolen funds. They have made blatant attemps to do so, but end up paying when caught by sponsors/ forums. Very likely BOL has gotten away with stealing legit funds from someone unaware of available options like SBR.
    This.

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    place is such a joke....they would have a perm. place on the right side of the pages here at SBR is they didnt line the pockets

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    They are SBR B+ rated and i like them so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishStoner View Post
    They are SBR B+ rated and i like them so far.
    because they pay them for that rating...read the threads buddy

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    I heard other complaints about them.

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    BOL has horrible CS, they bounce checks and attempt to steal legit poker winnings. Yet SBR keeps BOL at B+ and on their recommended list. I'm guessing their ad check is the one that cleared.

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    All of the A+ books bounce checks too, did you want to downgrade all of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    All of the A+ books bounce checks too, did you want to downgrade all of them?
    No, just the ones that attempt blatant theft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    BOL has horrible CS, they bounce checks and attempt to steal legit poker winnings. Yet SBR keeps BOL at B+ and on their recommended list. I'm guessing their ad check is the one that cleared.
    The only false statement here is "trying to steal poker winnings" and the rest of what u said here u already new before u deposited there but yet your complaining about it like as if u didn't know....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legions36 View Post
    The only false statement here is "trying to steal poker winnings" and the rest of what u said here u already new before u deposited there but yet your complaining about it like as if u didn't know....
    You need to re-read the 65k thread again. BOL STOLE the guy's money first before SBR pressured them to pay him. That is a fact.

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    yes thats a FACT

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    never a downgrade...always a sponsor book BOL is...BOL still slowpaying

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    I'd feel comfortable depositing at BOL as I'm a small timer and always withdraw via p2p and have never had a problem. If I were going to deposit over 5k somewhere I'd never consider them.

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    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...33/index7.html

    is just the newest of the BOL seizures and slow/no pays....

    the site makes me sick

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    Eight months after this thread began and BOL remains a B+, SBR recommended Book. If anything they've gotten worse---Shit Book.

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