1. 12-01-11 11:56 AM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    sure you have, you're more delusional than jjgold
    Tell you what, asswipe.....

    How about we make a 10k bet that I can prove how non-delusional I really am.

    Jag off.
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  2. 12-01-11 12:01 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongo View Post
    I had my beard in Vegas place a $5 wager for me
    i like to be your beard to place $5 wager for you, I work cheap

    I go by the name tony come

    when you win, please control your excitment
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  3. 12-01-11 12:02 PM #38
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    bingo let me know pal
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  4. 12-01-11 12:04 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by opie1988 View Post
    Tell you what, asswipe.....

    How about we make a 10k bet that I can prove how non-delusional I really am.

    Jag off.
    How would that prove you've got info on Bill Walters? You're delusional like JJ it's ok.
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  5. 12-01-11 12:07 PM #40
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    Fu-ck the government.
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  6. 12-01-11 12:09 PM #41
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    What was the purpose of that interview? I can't think of anything meaningful except bragging right. Who are pissed off? Books, and the Feds. So there you go.
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  7. 12-01-11 12:10 PM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrongturn View Post
    What was the purpose of that interview? I can't think of anything meaningful except bragging right. Who are pissed off? Books, and the Feds. So there you go.
    Maybe he put $10M on himself at 25:1 that he could get a 60 minutes story done on him in a certain period of time.
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  8. 12-01-11 12:12 PM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyDunlop View Post
    Maybe he put $10M on himself at 25:1 that he could get a 60 minutes story done on him in a certain period of time.
    good theory, wouldn't surprise me at all.
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  9. 12-01-11 12:15 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by opie1988 View Post
    Because it's illegal, and always has been.

    Trust me, it's not just the IRS....it's also the FBI.

    It's never a good idea to go on tv in front of millions of people showing off your homes, planes, etc.....and then basically brag how you have beaten 4 federal indictments. I promise you the US attorney doesn't take kindly to this.

    This is a big deal. I've already seen some fallout from just the very beginning.
    didnt he get in trouble with the feds 10+ years ago? if he he did then it was super stupid of him to show off on tv
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  10. 12-01-11 12:18 PM #45
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    Don't know why the books would be pissed at this interview.
    This was amazing publicity for the sports book industry.
    He was a moron for stating his background with the feds. Why the hell he is not betting $3,000 bets with many many many runners I will never know.
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  11. 12-01-11 12:18 PM #46
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    a lot of people talking out of their ass itt
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  12. 12-01-11 12:28 PM #47
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    Wouldn't be surprised if a couple billywalters beards posted here.
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  13. 12-01-11 01:03 PM #48
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    His runners at most properties are well known by the books and they play by the rules. He has a bunch of them at Hilton who are instructed to not cause any problems.
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  14. 12-01-11 01:07 PM #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    How would that prove you've got info on Bill Walters? You're delusional like JJ it's ok.
    you've been reading...

    never heard of you son

    why prove anything?
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  15. 12-01-11 01:12 PM #50
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    BW has infiltrated sbr imo. Rubberband plays have made him billions.
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  16. 12-01-11 01:12 PM #51
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    Actually..the only reason he is involved in this story is because of his name.. Someone got caught lying to the feds about where HE got the money to gamble over 10k bets. Has nothing to do with Billy except for the fact his name is big... They want to try to connect the dots but no money trace...This is what the feds are pissed about..Its the IRS really.. Only because the runner cannot show proof of how he has 5 cars, a semi-mansion,.and enough money in his bank accounts to wipe his Arse with 100's....
    If someone continues to deposit large sums of money in and out of a bank account with no trace or records of where the money came from it raises flags..
    Then again,.because they "THINK" he is one of Billy's guy'..Then they think well..previous problems should be checked up on again...
    Just a plea for more money... "someone didn't want to pay certain people off.."
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  17. 12-01-11 01:12 PM #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits n' Gravy View Post
    His runners at most properties are well known by the books and they play by the rules. He has a bunch of them at Hilton who are instructed to not cause any problems.
    finally someone who has a clue
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  18. 12-01-11 01:19 PM #53
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    Not the 1st time the Gov't been after him. He survived the last time and will most likely do so again
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  19. 12-01-11 01:33 PM #54
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    Glad there going after him
    Tax evasion is very serious
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  20. 12-01-11 01:35 PM #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Glad there going after him
    Tax evasion is very serious
    can't take a guy winning can you?
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  21. 12-01-11 01:37 PM #56
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    green bay was a loser (3-7)...cleveland was a loser (6-13)...san diego under was a winner (31-0)...not sure which side of the total he was on in the Dallas game...it went over...NE +3.5 was easy winner and K State up to 8.5 only won by 8...probably push or lose.....
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  22. 12-01-11 01:41 PM #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits n' Gravy View Post
    His runners at most properties are well known by the books and they play by the rules. He has a bunch of them at Hilton who are instructed to not cause any problems.
    What kind of problems would they cause?
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  23. 12-01-11 01:45 PM #58
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    How can I get a job being of of Billy Walter's "runners"?
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  24. 12-01-11 02:01 PM #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    He is a crook
    His wealth came from illegal activities and not gambling

    this
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  25. 12-01-11 02:22 PM #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Why make 10,000 bets, and have to sign tax forms?
    They are not being very discreet.
    My thought exactly.

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  26. 12-01-11 06:39 PM #61
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    I think the guy is great, reminds me of the dearly departed Frank Rosenthal. Some people just have the touch! Good luck to him in the future.
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  27. 12-01-11 11:00 PM #62
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    Did he say what his motivation was for going on national television? Seems like he either wanted to stir something up or he wanted people to know how great he is at picking games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opie1988 View Post
    Because it's illegal, and always has been.

    Trust me, it's not just the IRS....it's also the FBI.

    It's never a good idea to go on tv in front of millions of people showing off your homes, planes, etc.....and then basically brag how you have beaten 4 federal indictments. I promise you the US attorney doesn't take kindly to this.

    This is a big deal. I've already seen some fallout from just the very beginning.
    100% You don't mess with the FEDS... YOU WILL LOSE. This jerks ego is so big that he couldn't help himself. The $$$ wasn't enough, he had to go on national TV and brag about being a big shot. He needed everyone to know. Well, have fun paying legal fees and potentially going to prison. Not to mention the FEDS are watching his every move. What a jackass!!! This all could of been easily avoided. Hang in the shadows dumdum
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    Quote Originally Posted by soxwin1917 View Post
    Did he say what his motivation was for going on national television? Seems like he either wanted to stir something up or he wanted people to know how great he is at picking games.
    EGO MANIAC. Simple as that!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hornsrgrt View Post
    green bay was a loser (3-7)...cleveland was a loser (6-13)...san diego under was a winner (31-0)...not sure which side of the total he was on in the Dallas game...it went over...NE +3.5 was easy winner and K State up to 8.5 only won by 8...probably push or lose.....
    Aaron Rodgers got hurt that game. I lost too. If you pause it, you could see the offshore books he uses. I remember thegreek being in there.
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  31. 12-01-11 11:31 PM #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    What kind of problems would they cause?
    Overloading action on a side or total when the book is moving line from the action they've taken or are trying to move to match offshore outs. Trying to raise house limits on low volume bets like 1st 5 total in bases for example. There are so few legit books in Vegas that betting groups know not to play by the rules.

    This failure to disclose accurate info to the casino for Title 31 will likely end up with guy being 86ed from that casino and possibly others. He'll pay the taxes and fines himself or the llc will cover it and be given a warning.

    The casinos really don't get too scared from his action. If he is ahead the house gets it back from parlay and teaser cards from the average guy. From what I understand he is up in cfb this season at a few casinos but nothing too insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coming Back! View Post
    100% You don't mess with the FEDS... YOU WILL LOSE. This jerks ego is so big that he couldn't help himself. The $$$ wasn't enough, he had to go on national TV and brag about being a big shot. He needed everyone to know. Well, have fun paying legal fees and potentially going to prison. Not to mention the FEDS are watching his every move. What a jackass!!! This all could of been easily avoided. Hang in the shadows dumdum
    Thats why he's walked away from the feds four times right?
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  33. 12-01-11 11:48 PM #68
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  34. 12-02-11 01:23 AM #69
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    The guy from one of the books in the 60 min interview said they are glad to take his action. Does he still use beards there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Glad there going after him
    Tax evasion is very serious
    Hard to win when you are paying the vig and taxes.
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