1. 11-18-11 11:38 AM #1
    P.F.Kasooff
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    Is VIPSports.eu for REAL ?

    Is this the old VIP group?
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  2. 11-18-11 11:40 AM #2
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    no..its a scam Avoid...sbr I think has complaints and info on it..
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  3. 11-18-11 11:40 AM #3
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    Nope. They are former employees who have hijacked the name.
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  4. 11-18-11 11:40 AM #4
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    99% no. Someone with the player list who was formerly with VIP is using it on a skin of a platform provider. He was not an owner. If someone worked half as at paying players before VIP.com closed in the offseason as they did with marketing, players wouldn't had to chase down balances for 6 mos through SBR.
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  5. 11-18-11 11:50 AM #5
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    Thanks Bill and all...

    Someone definitely has an older database, I'll leave it at that
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  6. 11-19-11 11:50 AM #6
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    yep, GTbets for one.
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  7. 11-19-11 12:00 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer View Post
    yep, GTbets for one.
    Is gtbets legit bill
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  8. 11-19-11 12:25 PM #8
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    VIPsports.eu is suggesting VIP has simply reopened and just had to switch to the .eu. It's really just a BTGgaming skin. That said, no reason to think they will steal old VIP guys' money. Expect the same experience or a little better that people got with Dimeline.
    GTbets is the closest thing to the old VIP. The software source is the same, which is now a little outdated. A bunch of the lower level non-owners are the same. They did finally pay off old owed players that we knew of... which suggests they aren't rebooting to get some quick money. VIP didn't do either of the new sites any favors the way they left a small group of players to have to come find their money. GTbets is in Curacau where Pinnacle and the real VIP was. You actually do need a license to operate there and GTbets doesn't have one yet.
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  9. 11-19-11 01:49 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer View Post
    You actually do need a license to operate there and GTbets doesn't have one yet.
    How long does that typically take?

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  10. 11-22-11 02:19 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAUS View Post
    How long does that typically take?

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    There really isn't a typical scenario. There were only two books there for maybe 4 years? And, one was non-US and the other wasn't taking new US players. It will be interesting to see if they can easily grab one.
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  11. 11-22-11 02:23 PM #11
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    This goes back yrs ago: I liked Gameday, they gave out some nice bonuses. VIP, not so much. I middled a NFL gm betting both sides with VIP they paid it but said I cant do that again
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  12. 11-22-11 06:15 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer View Post
    There really isn't a typical scenario. There were only two books there for maybe 4 years? And, one was non-US and the other wasn't taking new US players. It will be interesting to see if they can easily grab one.
    I don't know the exact years they existed there, but I can think of several books based in Curacao:

    VIP
    Pinnacle
    Royal/SBG were there, then moved to CR. That must have been about 4 years ago?
    Playasap (Defunct I believe)
    Playthescore.com (Which stiffed me 5 figures. Did they have a licence? Does anyone know where Phil Ronis or Omar Ayubi are these days?)
    Sportsbetting.ag currently

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