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    Justin7
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    5Dimes tennis

    If you don't play there, you have to have a look. They offer a gazillion matches on challengers.

    Even with $50 limits, I'm able to get down 5.5k on these challengers in 5 minutes. There's nothing wrong with nibbling at the pie, as long as you get your fill.

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    For tennis betting they are by far the best out for the US player, Pinny still has far better lines as overall though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceminers26 View Post
    For tennis betting they are by far the best out for the US player, Pinny still has far better lines as overall though.
    Betonline is making inroads on tennis also. They are taking dimes on total with a 16 cent line (which they also use on spreads near Pick'em).

    If you're playing Tennis, you want all 3 (Pinny, 5d and BO). Catalina is pretty good also... 20 cent lines on MLs.

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    does 5d still have soft limits ? been a while since I multi-popped a wager there

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    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    BetOnline is making inroads on tennis also. They are taking dimes on total with a 16 cent line (which they also use on spreads near Pick'em). If you're playing Tennis, you want all 3 (Pinny, 5d and BO). Catalina is pretty good also... 20 cent lines on MLs.
    If you can get Pinny, that's the way to go but for US, yes I agree 5dimes (challenger option and tons of tennis options with all caps, totals, 1st sets, ect. and Betonline only because they are the only one I have seen put out totals for 1st sets.

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    wtf is wrong with you
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    This can't be real.

    Greatest level of all time?

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    wtf is wrong with you

    Why would anyone possibly care if they post something in this forum that might be detrimental to your interests?

    If I had a choice of making 2 bits or costing you $500K, I would take the 2 bits.

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    It doesnt matter what the lines are if you dont get paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andywend View Post
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    Why would anyone possibly care if they post something in this forum that might be detrimental to your interests?

    If I had a choice of making 2 bits or costing you $500K, I would take the 2 bits.
    Is this supposed to make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andywend View Post

    Why would anyone possibly care if they post something in this forum that might be detrimental to your interests?

    If I had a choice of making 2 bits or costing you $500K, I would take the 2 bits.
    What if you could keep making the 2 bits but considered telling everyone and their mother how to do it instead so that you made 0 bits from now on? What would your choice be then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker View Post
    What if you could keep making the 2 bits but considered telling everyone and their mother how to do it instead so that you made 0 bits from now on? What would your choice be then?
    Start selling books.

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    thanks i will take a look

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    wtf is wrong with you
    You're a selfish pos

    Less guys like you would make this world a much better place. The op can say whatever the hell he wants and you getting mad and calling him out shows how childish you are. Be an adult.

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    How much money do you just give away, Inkwell? You might want to question the motives of the OP rather than the people who are wondering why the OP is posting what he is.

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    His job is to keep this forum interesting, posting these kind of things (which sounds weird at best to me) only means he does his job.

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    It´s not about giving shit away, I couldn´t care less what he gives away, he doesn´t know anything worthwhile anyway. It´s about being an annoying douche that tries to sound smart. Tony isn´t going to let you win at challenger tennis even at $50 a pop. Even if he did, whats the point of this thread. It doesn´t take much smarts to beat $50 limit markets. It´s like coming on here and bragging about beating SIA. Big deal, oh wait, that was a different thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkwell77 View Post
    You're a selfish pos

    Less guys like you would make this world a much better place. The op can say whatever the hell he wants and you getting mad and calling him out shows how childish you are. Be an adult.
    Try not being a ******* moron.

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    justin7 must be dead broke. I once looked up to him but now I have lost all faith

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    i love 5dimes having all these challenger matches to bet on. i must of did like 6 different parlay tickets about an hour ago. now my degenerate self can stay up all nite watching the scoreboard. btw dont know if anyone noticed but in one click Vasselin went from -1000 to -800. steam on his opponent Minar maybe?

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    If you don't play there, you have to have a look. They offer a gazillion matches on challengers.

    Even with $50 limits, I'm able to get down 5.5k on these challengers in 5 minutes. There's nothing wrong with nibbling at the pie, as long as you get your fill.
    What exactly did Justin do wrong here other than point out that 5 Dimes offers betting on Challenger Tennis?

    Obviously, the lines must be REAL SOFT and if the only way you can make money gambling is by making $50 bets on Challenger Tennis, then you have no right complaining about others doing the same thing.[/color]

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    No serious tennis bettor plays in the USA

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    go vikings

    not sure why you'd put 110 bets on in 5 minutes but ... maybe i missing something?
    Last edited by faststeady; 09-13-11 at 06:01 AM.

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    Challenger matches are pure guesses

    Where is the value

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    Challenger matches are only good if you know the fix is in and know which side to bet or you have some inside info. on one of the players. Who's injured, who's ultra-motivated, who will tank, etc. That's the reason for the miniscule limit, to prevent someone in the know from pounding the book hard. Also, the juice on these matches are about double the juice of a standard ATP/WTA Tour level event. No value. Only time value will arise is if you are in the know. Otherwise, it's a crap shoot of mug players with questionable motivation whilst you're betting into lines which would make Bodog look like Pinny. If you're placing $50 bets to have a cumulative "$5.5k" worth of action, are you even going to get paid? Seems to me Tony will not approve of this circumvention of the $50 limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    It´s not about giving shit away, I couldn´t care less what he gives away, he doesn´t know anything worthwhile anyway. It´s about being an annoying douche that tries to sound smart. Tony isn´t going to let you win at challenger tennis even at $50 a pop. Even if he did, whats the point of this thread. It doesn´t take much smarts to beat $50 limit markets. It´s like coming on here and bragging about beating SIA. Big deal, oh wait, that was a different thread.
    Every once in awhile, I read a post and have to seriously re-evaluate my opinion of a poster. Is that poster as smart as he has appeared? Does he "get it"?

    Durito, do you get it? Why would you put in 6k in bets on challengers at $50 a pop with an expected hold of 6% (in 5 minutes), versus 6 1k bets at SIA with a hold of 6%? Your mental facilities have seemed crippled as of late, so I'll hold your hand for a bit. The former is better than the latter due to lower variance. But more importantly, it's another 6k of volume. And lastly, what are the implications of being able to bet a gazillion challengers at +EV so quickly? It means you can crush them with pure stats, not knowing jack shit about injuries, motivation or anything else (unless you can quantify it).

    The point of this thread... there is a lot of easy money out there for anyone willing to put in a little effort. Do I care if I burn out an opportunity worth several hundred a week? Not really. Because for every opportunity that disappears, another one appears that is better. If you'd spend more time thinking, and less time crying about douches and smarts, you might confirm this for yourself faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisado View Post
    Challenger matches are only good if you know the fix is in and know which side to bet or you have some inside info. on one of the players. Who's injured, who's ultra-motivated, who will tank, etc. That's the reason for the miniscule limit, to prevent someone in the know from pounding the book hard. Also, the juice on these matches are about double the juice of a standard ATP/WTA Tour level event. No value. Only time value will arise is if you are in the know. Otherwise, it's a crap shoot of mug players with questionable motivation whilst you're betting into lines which would make Bodog look like Pinny. If you're placing $50 bets to have a cumulative "$5.5k" worth of action, are you even going to get paid? Seems to me Tony will not approve of this circumvention of the $50 limit.
    in the past, 5dimes stated limits were per ticket....meaning you could keep popping it over and over.

    not sure if this is the case any more or not

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    On a random 5d note, I got a classic a couple days ago. I was hoping to find a way to bet more on Challengers, not necessarily at 5d. Tony took it the wrong way. He responded: "I run a business, not a petting zoo." For some reason, that cracked me up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post

    Because for every opportunity that disappears, another one appears that is better.
    Naive comments like this are why so many people come after you. Thanks to you and other "authors" the lowest hanging fruit is all but gone, and books are closing, lowering limits, limiting faster, and wising up in general every single day.

    But hey, at least the $50 tennis market is still off the chain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForgetWallStreet View Post
    Naive comments like this are why so many people come after you. Thanks to you and other "authors" the lowest hanging fruit is all but gone, and books are closing, lowering limits, limiting faster, and wising up in general every single day.

    But hey, at least the $50 tennis market is still off the chain!
    So are you in the Durito camp of "Justin7 is giving too much away", or the Durito camp of "Justin7 doesn't know anything"? Nevermind the inherent contradiction.

    Your Pandora's box of worries will happen regardless of anything I say or publish. Quit crying, and start thinking. That is the only way to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Quit crying, and start thinking. That is the only way to win.
    so why again do you still play at SIA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Every once in awhile, I read a post and have to seriously re-evaluate my opinion of a poster. Is that poster as smart as he has appeared? Does he "get it"?

    Durito, do you get it? Why would you put in 6k in bets on challengers at $50 a pop with an expected hold of 6% (in 5 minutes), versus 6 1k bets at SIA with a hold of 6%? Your mental facilities have seemed crippled as of late, so I'll hold your hand for a bit. The former is better than the latter due to lower variance. But more importantly, it's another 6k of volume. And lastly, what are the implications of being able to bet a gazillion challengers at +EV so quickly? It means you can crush them with pure stats, not knowing jack shit about injuries, motivation or anything else (unless you can quantify it).

    The point of this thread... there is a lot of easy money out there for anyone willing to put in a little effort. Do I care if I burn out an opportunity worth several hundred a week? Not really. Because for every opportunity that disappears, another one appears that is better. If you'd spend more time thinking, and less time crying about douches and smarts, you might confirm this for yourself faster.

    What did i say about 1k bets versus $50? Nothing. I was laughing at you posting plays at SIA and then asking about their payout methods.

    How many 5dimes accounts you have? How many at SIA? How does a so called long time pro like yourself that does not multi account still have accounts at either of these places?

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    What did i say about 1k bets versus $50? Nothing. I was laughing at you posting plays at SIA and then asking about their payout methods.

    How many 5dimes accounts you have? How many at SIA? How does a so called long time pro like yourself that does not multi account still have accounts at either of these places?
    please enlighten me also

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie12 View Post
    please enlighten me also
    Here's an oldie but a goodie that will give you a bit more insight sir.

    Camoflauge and sportsbooks

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