1. 09-13-11 01:04 AM #36
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    That's ridiculous
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  2. 09-13-11 01:04 AM #37
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    OP u fukking idiot, why would you wager money with a terrible bookie like that??



    there's like a 100 A and B rated sportsbooks, why not wager with them???
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  3. 09-13-11 03:12 AM #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    If a PPH site is taking scammers as agents, we can still apply some pressure.
    I remember one time we did and the book paid the player even though the agent stiff him. I also remember another time when the book agreed to pay up when the agent defaulted on them then later backed out. So yes it is definitely possible to get paid albeit, a long shot.
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  4. 09-13-11 04:53 AM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull117 View Post
    OP u fukking idiot, why would you wager money with a terrible bookie like that?? there's like a 100 A and B rated sportsbooks, why not wager with them???
    simple

    they do not want to post up

    no reason other than that, they want to gamble on credit
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  5. 09-13-11 05:50 AM #40
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    Can't really feel sorry for anyone who risks playing at a book named "bestwerdsgret"... Whatever it's called...
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  6. 09-13-11 07:30 AM #41
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    Listen, I had guys playing which I made money off of with no risk if they won, think about it... Also here was a message textes to me this morning from a weird number:

    I wouldn't make any threbats that would provoke physical retaliation from the bookie.
    Money just isn't worth putting yourself or family in danger.
    the problem with taking this to the authorities..
    you do not have any proof he booked the bets for you? I'm assuming he doesn't fax u a receipt for your winnings.


    Lmao!!! I have an email from him, who cares about receipts!!! No, his name wasn't Derek, it was Allan
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  7. 09-13-11 07:37 AM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Living The Dream View Post
    Listen, I had guys playing which I made money off of with no risk if they won, think about it... Also here was a message textes to me this morning from a weird number:

    I wouldn't make any threbats that would provoke physical retaliation from the bookie.
    Money just isn't worth putting yourself or family in danger.
    the problem with taking this to the authorities..
    you do not have any proof he booked the bets for you? I'm assuming he doesn't fax u a receipt for your winnings.


    Lmao!!! I have an email from him, who cares about receipts!!! No, his name wasn't Derek, it was Allan
    u sound like a rat bro you want your money go get it no need for the authorities man up or take your loss and keep it moving
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  8. 09-13-11 07:40 AM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by allabout the $$$ View Post
    u sound like a rat bro you want your money go get it no need for the authorities man up or take your loss and keep it moving

    I would never go to the authorities, I said IRS, which us better.. and a rat??? You mess with the bull you get the horns!! I work in a prison, you stiff a honeybun and you get a lock in the sock
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  9. 09-13-11 09:06 AM #44
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    dude you basically shit were you eat

    you were making money off the losses of your referrals, you had good income for no risk, the perfect gig, if you were smart enough you would have placed YOUR bets online or at a different bookie and not with what was essentially your business partner
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  10. 09-13-11 09:11 AM #45
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    Agreed, however that doesn't rule out the fact he agreed to something he is openly stiffing
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  11. 09-13-11 09:12 AM #46
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    Why the heck do people just sign up at a random D-F list book without even doing some research.
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  12. 09-13-11 09:16 AM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Living The Dream View Post
    Agreed, however that doesn't rule out the fact he agreed to something he is openly stiffing

    not saying he is not at fault, all im saying you could have avoided it

    you basically gave him an excuse to stiff you, bookies, whether local or online, seem to be pieces of shits in general
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  13. 09-19-11 12:02 AM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan View Post
    I remember one time we did and the book paid the player even though the agent stiff him.
    I couldn't remember the name of the shop we helped collect from before until I found it on a total fluke via a search of the SBR archives. It was MetallicSports/BetMet (SBR Rated C) who is now known as JungleWager (SBR Rated C) and anyone interested in this particular case can read about it here.
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  14. 09-19-11 06:59 AM #49
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    I agree with the posters point that why would you play with these guys when the high rated A+ and even A books are out there.
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  15. 03-18-12 03:07 PM #50
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    Ok, so this thread popped out of nowhere for some stupid reason.

    Anyway, I was stiffed.

    Never turned any info into the IRS, though I wish I did.. moved on and I am killing it offshore and collected the last 3 weeks
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  16. 03-18-12 03:09 PM #51
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    I love how people act all tough, and then they threaten to snitch.... Get a fuckin life... this isn't the 3rd grade.
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    Acted tough?? The dude stiffed me and threatened me and I acted tough? I hope he stiffed you also...


    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty View Post
    I love how people act all tough, and then they threaten to snitch.... Get a fuckin life... this isn't the 3rd grade.
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    I love people who stick up for stiffs..

    You a stiff also?
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  19. 03-18-12 08:14 PM #54
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    LOL at me being a stiff... obviously don't know shit.... And when I do get stiffed, which happens every now and again, you take it up with him man to man or you move on. Going to the cops/IRS? When what you are doing is technically illegal too (taking other peoples action).
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  20. 03-18-12 08:30 PM #55
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    So you are sticking up for a stiff?? Fuk him.. I didn't go to the irs, but what if I did? So what? Stiffing is unacceptable and he would deserve whatever he got. Fuk him and if you are standing up for a stiff, fuk you too. You are as low as him if you stick up for him
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  21. 03-18-12 09:01 PM #56
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    You are just as bad as he is if you go to the feds, irs, etc... Both sides are doing something illegal to begin with, and its just fuckin childish and immature to bring government authorities into a situation like this. I can already tell what kind of person you are just off of that....
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    Well I didn't do it. Don't start with illegal BS. You are sticking up for a stiff to an extent that makes me wonder why? Maybe you are him and are an agent at betwestcoast.

    Regardless I am done with this situation. Me theatening to turn a stiff into the irs and someone else threateningly to beat someone's ass are no different.

    I am now done arguing with a guy sticking up for a stiff pretty hard for some reason.

    I dont think anyone else on this board would stick up for s stiff.

    Interesting.


    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty View Post
    You are just as bad as he is if you go to the feds, irs, etc... Both sides are doing something illegal to begin with, and its just fuckin childish and immature to bring government authorities into a situation like this. I can already tell what kind of person you are just off of that....
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    I don't even know who "he" is... I don't deal in credit and agents cause I actually have the $$ to post up.

    The fact is you are just as bad as the neighborhood kid who bets over his head, loses everything and decides to go to the cops because the bookie is doing something illegal so he doesn't have to pay. Pathetic... and no I'm not a stiff, nor do I know people associated with whatever site it is that you are talking about.
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    What are you talking about? I was the one stiffed, not stiffing. Betting over my head?? I have plenty of $$ in my offshore book and have given up on locals because if the asshole you are sticking up for.



    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty View Post
    I don't even know who "he" is... I don't deal in credit and agents cause I actually have the $$ to post up.

    The fact is you are just as bad as the neighborhood kid who bets over his head, loses everything and decides to go to the cops because the bookie is doing something illegal so he doesn't have to pay. Pathetic... and no I'm not a stiff, nor do I know people associated with whatever site it is that you are talking about.
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    I'm still not sure whats worse... stiffing or snitching for something illegal that both sides are doing, but both sides are lowlifes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty View Post
    I don't even know who "he" is... I don't deal in credit and agents cause I actually have the $$ to post up.

    The fact is you are just as bad as the neighborhood kid who bets over his head, loses everything and decides to go to the cops because the bookie is doing something illegal so he doesn't have to pay. Pathetic... and no I'm not a stiff, nor do I know people associated with whatever site it is that you are talking about.
    You don't deal in credit or agents?


    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...ton-north.html


    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...nnorthinc.html


    There is also a link in one of those threads to this thread:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...-its-scam.html

    Amazingly the book that then"agent" that you lied about using and the credit you lied about using is guess what site??

    Beteastcoast, which is very similar name to betwestcoast.

    Found this all here:

    http://BrianLaverty.mysbrforum.com/


    I don't care anymore as I am past this..

    But now I can figure out why you came to bat when I mentioned the site that the guy who stiffed me is using.

    Fuk off
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  27. 03-18-12 10:24 PM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsr View Post
    Just curious why you would play with this book anyway when there are books out there that you know will pay
    What I was wondering as well, there's a few out there that will pay, no questions asked. Why take the risk?
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    I like your posts in those threads. I guess you lie a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenhippo View Post
    What I was wondering as well, there's a few out there that will pay, no questions asked. Why take the risk?
    This was just a mistake where I got burned. I was trying to set up someone with some friends and we all got burnt.

    I now just worry about myself and have been happily collecting from legitimately books offshore.
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    Nevermind, see this thread was months old
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  31. 03-18-12 10:33 PM #66
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    I know the guy in charge, but didn't know this was the website you were talking about. Someone earlier said it was "bestwerdsgret" and I kind of just assumed that was the name of the site. Know the person associated with beteastcoast....
    I've dealt with kevin before, as he is a friend and has more knowledge of the industry then anyone I know... but never heard of "Allan" or "Derek", so really no idea WTF you are talking about. And I don't deal in credit as I've said many times....
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    Yeah and for some reason it popped up today and this guy was defending a stiff who amazingly uses the same site as his boy... Even though he told me he doesn't use credit or agents. We can see he himself isn't very honest.

    It's over. I have moved on. Goodluck to the stiff and the guy defending him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty View Post
    And I don't deal in credit as I've said many times.... [/COLOR]
    Not true according to your posts in the links I provided.

    I am done. Goodluck.
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    Did you deal with Kevin? No? Okay.. cause i didnt defend the website at any point, just a person who works for them and apparently you never even dealt with.

    Did I ever say I bet on credit? I've bet with Kevin in the past cause he was able to give me good lines that weren't always available at other books... but always posted up and never bet on credit in my life.

    Are you really defending and advocating snitching? Amazing.. cause I'm pretty sure you are just as much at fault as he is because you are also "taking action". You wanna get someone else in trouble with the government for the same exact thing you are doing? WOW. Thats amazing.

    In NCAA Sports, there is an unwritten code between coaches that they never snitch each other out for doing illegal recruiting. #1 recruit takes money from one coach who isn't playing fair, so he goes there instead... Do you snitch on that coach? I'd like to think more gamblers are loyal like this, but its people like you that are almost as bad as stiffs and don't have any respect for the unwritten rules in the sports betting industry...
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    Did I turn him in, no. Did I threaten him to, yes.

    He is scum and you defending him doesn't say much about you and its ironic the same site is used by the guy you are defending and your buddy.

    Goodluck bro
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