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    jjaycuny
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    Interesting online casino theory

    I was talking with someone about 5dimes (which I have yet to have a pro status for) and he was telling me that he ONLY plays the online casino. When I laughed and told them that was stupid, he made an interesting point; He said if I offered you an investment that returned a guaranteed 1% a day, would I take it? I said of course. He then said that when he puts money into an account he figures out whatever small amount 1% is of his bankroll, and stops playing for the day once he wins it. He uses the martingale system in roulette. Obviously this takes a shit load of discipline and a non-gambler's personality. He makes a guaranteed few K a year doing it. I wanna try this but I know I'd get loaded and blow it.

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    The only guarantee is that he will lose his whole bankroll eventually.
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    but using the martingale system, you have an incredible advantage to win 1% of your bankroll. If you put 1k in, you only have to win $10 a day. doubling your bet each time in a game like roulette seems very high %. but like he said, you have to stop once you've met that quota for the day

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    bet 1 = 10
    bet 2 = 20
    bet 3 = 40
    bet 4 = 80
    bet 5 = 160
    bet 6 = 320
    bet 7 = 640

    I've seen more than 7 straight red and 7 straight blacks

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    believe me I know that, i've seen 9 straight blacks. He mixed it up between playing red/black and 2 to 1. He made 7k doing it.

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    If that system actually worked everyone would be reach, it's not a secret system or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Pujols View Post
    The only guarantee is that he will lose his whole bankroll eventually.


    As will lots of us here on SBR

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    Online casinos are programmed to put you on wicked losing streaks so you go bust at a real casino perhaps this may work but even then eventually you will hit that sick losing streak and really it only takes 7 losses in a row (not that terrible) to go bust which any long term gambler has experienced
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    How does mixing it up between red and black change the odds of losing 7 straight?
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    Clearly this guy works for 5dimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by urge2kill View Post
    How does mixing it up between red and black change the odds of losing 7 straight?
    haha are you serious? did I ever say that mixing it up changes the odds? I'm simply telling you what he did. He mixed it up between the 2 and won 7k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan707 View Post
    Clearly this guy works for 5dimes
    damn you caught me

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjaycuny View Post
    but using the martingale system, you have an incredible advantage to win 1% of your bankroll. If you put 1k in, you only have to win $10 a day. doubling your bet each time in a game like roulette seems very high %. but like he said, you have to stop once you've met that quota for the day
    this is as stupid as it gets

    millions of gamblers over the centuries have lost everything (many their lives even) playing Martingale and other loss chasing schemes

    casinos around the world have made fortunes on the back of such fools

    and as for stopping when having made the quota for the day - more garbage - why is the first sequence next day going to be any better than the next sequence today? If you are onto a winning method the more you play the more you win.

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    Yup, well said Hareeba.

    The only thing this method does is delay the inevitable.

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    The problem with the Martingale system is noone is going to just win 1 unit and quit, cmon now. You're gonna keep doing it like a shark with the taste of blood in his mouth until disaster strikes and you suffer that horrendous losing streak that robs you of your existence.

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    not sure 5 dimes even allows more than a $500 wager on the American Roulette option..this is pure stupid rubbish..tell your friend to stop

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    online games of chance is so rig'd!

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    If it works for him great and if he is cashing the checks great again. I am not ever playing rigged online casino games. Even the live games are rigged. If you are about to hit a big one in blackjack,all they have to do is "forget" to scan another players card and the whole hand is scratched. Nothing is foolproof.

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    This works well for about 156/157 days. The other day not so much
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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    not sure 5 dimes even allows more than a $500 wager on the American Roulette option..this is pure stupid rubbish..tell your friend to stop
    if i were going to do this i would not play the american version of roulette.



    the OP sounds like the poster The General that used to be a mod here and at other places.

    he used to say he would win a small amount each day and stop

    lol

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    I'm sure the 500 year old losing system is going to work for your buddy. He is much different from the millions of other people that the martingale was going to make rich.

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    How exactly is this a "guaranteed" 1% a day?...

    Oh right, because on your friend's home planet, nobody has ever lost 8 consecutive bets, anywhere at any time in recorded history. Completely impossible.....

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    lol

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    Well damn it...I thought this was the one...the thread that would make me millions...o well...I am sure anyday now someone is going to give us the hidden secret to make millions at gambling without any chance of losing...honestly do these stupid ideas ever stop???

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    people have been losing all their wealth with the martingale system since the cavemen sat around throwing rocks and gambling with their women and meat. please revisit this thread and update us when your friend loses everything.

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    This is total b.s because my wife's brother went to school with a guy who designs gaming software and there is a built in protection against martingaling. I can personally guarantee that if you try a martingale system on any online casino you are 99.9% surely to lose. Sbr's points casino with it's "DGS" software is a prime example of this. Go ahead. Try it and see. At least there you'll only lose points and not cash. Its real simple fellas. owners of online casinos are just stealing money and calling it gaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topgame85 View Post
    Online casinos are programmed to put you on wicked losing streaks so you go bust at a real casino perhaps this may work but even then eventually you will hit that sick losing streak and really it only takes 7 losses in a row (not that terrible) to go bust which any long term gambler has experienced
    My only question is when was the last time the Yankees or Patriots have lost more than 7 in a row? The marty will ruin most people but there are cases where teams have won big at casinos using it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail View Post
    This is total b.s because my wife's brother went to school with a guy who designs gaming software and there is a built in protection against martingaling. I can personally guarantee that if you try a martingale system on any online casino you are 99.9% surely to lose. Sbr's points casino with it's "DGS" software is a prime example of this. Go ahead. Try it and see. At least there you'll only lose points and not cash. Its real simple fellas. owners of online casinos are just stealing money and calling it gaming.
    So does the software basically analyze your bet and make it lose no matter what you bet? I'm surprised nobody has done anything to any of these online shops then if what you say is true. That is blatant theft and would piss people off. When people get pissed they usually get radical unless they are soft. Geez man at least the Vegas casinos are regulated, that is horseshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan707 View Post
    The problem with the Martingale system is noone is going to just win 1 unit and quit, cmon now. You're gonna keep doing it like a shark with the taste of blood in his mouth until disaster strikes and you suffer that horrendous losing streak that robs you of your existence.
    Even if you have the control to stick with a plan, you would need a ton of money to make sure it was somewhat full proof. Then you would have to ask yourself, "what is the point of winning .1% of my bankroll!" At that point it takes the fun out of it. If you are trying to make money gambling, open a casino!

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    Quote Originally Posted by easywinner View Post
    My only question is when was the last time the Yankees or Patriots have lost more than 7 in a row? The marty will ruin most people but there are cases where teams have won big at casinos using it.
    and were they only even money chances?

    it will ruin ALL people if they keep playing it ... just a matter of time

    if you are making -ev plays the more you play the more certain is bankroll wipeout

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    and were they only even money chances?

    it will ruin ALL people if they keep playing it ... just a matter of time

    if you are making -ev plays the more you play the more certain is bankroll wipeout
    Doesn't matter if they were or not, the point is neither one has lost 7 since i started betting. Marty is playing with fire, but what's it matter if you win? To each their own i suppose. Marty has worked for some people, ruined most. I've read stories of teams rolling casinos for a couple hundred thousand using a marty before. It will screw you when you hit the right negative variance, but who is anyone to say that you can't hit them first and roll with your profit? That's all i'm saying. We all know it's bad strategy but it can work in the short term for the right person/team. You can't deny that. I also won't deny that it will ruin everyone in the long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail View Post
    This is total b.s because my wife's brother went to school with a guy who designs gaming software and there is a built in protection against martingaling. I can personally guarantee that if you try a martingale system on any online casino you are 99.9% surely to lose. Sbr's points casino with it's "DGS" software is a prime example of this. Go ahead. Try it and see. At least there you'll only lose points and not cash. Its real simple fellas. owners of online casinos are just stealing money and calling it gaming.
    There is a built in protection against Martingaling called 4th grade level math.
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    I'd be inclined to say this is a disaster waiting to happen, but I'm not even sure it can be classified as a disaster.

    I will go further to say that while his system is doomed to failure, I have devised and tested a theoretical strategy that is capable of beating Microgaming Pontoon by extracting and reversing the risk quotient and placing it outside the parameters of the RNG technology they utilize. So have fun with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail View Post
    This is total b.s because my wife's brother went to school with a guy who designs gaming software and there is a built in protection against martingaling. owners of online casinos are just stealing money and calling it gaming.
    This is total BS because my cousin's parole officer's great grandfather called to tell me that the guy your wife's brother went to school with is a clownshoe if he expects anybody who knows anything about online casinos to believe they spend even one second of their development time building in artificial controls to combat The Fearless Martingaler. Owners of every casino (online and otherwise) offer games that are by their mathematical rules in favor of the house. There is no need to cheat. There is no need to steal. In fact, if you can show me a casino that offers a game where Martingale would not eventually fail; then I will show you a casino that is cheating.

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