[Tully Mars 63]

So SBR says the account is open and cleared for payout and BOL posts the jury's still out?

[Zach_Da_Muppet]

Alex,

I would LOVE to see this evidence buddy.....anxiously awaiting this.
Truth always prevails whether you like to admit it or not. No wrongdoing was done here, if you can provide a single scrap of evidence I'd love to see it. Until then quit wasting my time, oh yeah...everyone should know that I try to login today, and account is closed.

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Lars: Thank you for contacting BetOnline Live Chat Service. How may I assist you today?
Zachery: what is going on with my account
Zachery: b61122
Zachery: i cant login again
Lars: Hi Zachary
Lars: Let me check

Lars: Your account was shut down due to Poker fraud
Lars: You have been banned from our site.
Zachery: ??
Zachery: I JUST spoke yesterday about this
Zachery: they reopened my account
Zachery: and told me I could cashout
Lars: Not at all.
Lars: We have some very specific notes on your account
Zachery: lets see them
Lars: Stating not to re-open it ever again
Zachery: i dont want my account reopened after all of this hassle obviously
Zachery: hence the reason I requested my money to be cashed out partially and the other sent to 5dimes....Lars: That's not going to be possible at all, as explained, tour account was shut down due to Poker fraud
Lars: your*
Lars: You have been banned from our site.
Lars: Is there anything else I can assist you with at this time?

Is this some sort of sick joke? Newsflash guys, like I said...if your investigation didn't reveal anything in 12 days then that should tell you something here. As stated before, the forum would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see your case.

ANXIOUSLY awaiting....this should be hilarious. Please feel free to post IP's, hands, chat conversations, emails, anything. I'll be entertained reading this in the cali sun on vacation. Good day

[Tully Mars 63]

Wow... SBR says it's open and cleared for payout then BOL closes it again and says you're banned for cheating... evidence please.

[BrianLaverty]

It's pretty obvious what's going on here....and its not betonline screwing him.

[Legions36]

Something had to have happened recently and im sure they will provide this info to SBR to prove it.

[SBR Lou]

So SBR says the account is open and cleared for payout and BOL posts the jury's still out?

We reported what we had been told by the operations manager at that time.

Four hours after being given that update, a new message was sent to us last night introducing additional evidence. The new evidence is said to suggest that Zach 1. is connected to multiple accounts, 2. attempted to deposit with a CC to multiple accounts, 3. received the ~$6,000 in profit from what was dubbed an obvious chip-dump from two other CC depositors. We were also told that Zach's details also popped up in the central fraud software used by many industry sportsbooks and poker rooms, and that there were seven entries which resolved to him.

We're asking for additional details in support of this new evidence in order to confirm the fraud/********** scheme.

[BetOnline]

The accounts involved have all been closed AND the funds they deposited are being refunded back to their cards.

Cheers
Alex

[Legions36]

Case closed, at least they have they gave u back your money cheater, some places wouldn't even do that.

[Zach_Da_Muppet]

Please post the username's or account numbers and the affiliated site, as I would love to hear this also. And thank you Lou for looking into this further and continued patience. Are there any debts that have not been fully paid off? And perhaps the biggest question I have is, why take my bets in the first place or let me make a deposit? Seems a little sketchy that this is an issue only after I win....I have had this account at Betonline for a long time, and have been paid out beforehand, so maybe I am missing something here.

[Tully Mars 63]

We reported what we had been told by the operations manager at that time.

Four hours after being given that update, a new message was sent to us last night introducing additional evidence. The new evidence is said to suggest that Zach 1. is connected to multiple accounts, 2. attempted to deposit with a CC to multiple accounts, 3. received the ~$6,000 in profit from what was dubbed an obvious chip-dump from two other CC depositors. We were also told that Zach's details also popped up in the central fraud software used by many industry sportsbooks and poker rooms, and that there were seven entries which resolved to him.

We're asking for additional details in support of this new evidence in order to confirm the fraud/********** scheme.

If all that's true then that's the correct out come.

[Zach_Da_Muppet]

as far as the other players...why should they get their money back? Because they lost at poker?

[Dark Horse]

We reported what we had been told by the operations manager at that time.

Four hours after being given that update, a new message was sent to us last night introducing additional evidence. The new evidence is said to suggest that Zach 1. is connected to multiple accounts, 2. attempted to deposit with a CC to multiple accounts, 3. received the ~$6,000 in profit from what was dubbed an obvious chip-dump from two other CC depositors. We were also told that Zach's details also popped up in the central fraud software used by many industry sportsbooks and poker rooms, and that there were seven entries which resolved to him.

We're asking for additional details in support of this new evidence in order to confirm the fraud/********** scheme.

The guy probably stole hundreds of thousands this way. You got caught, asshole.

[Legions36]

Please post the username's or account numbers and the affiliated site, as I would love to hear this also. And thank you Lou for looking into this further and continued patience. Are there any debts that have not been fully paid off? And perhaps the biggest question I have is, why take my bets in the first place or let me make a deposit? Seems a little sketchy that this is an issue only after I win....I have had this account at Betonline for a long time, and have been paid out beforehand, so maybe I am missing something here.

Usually when u request payouts books look further into your play for things like this and then they catch u, thats why they let u play because they don't know about it yet. Hey Zach if SBR says so and Betonline im pretty sure your out of gas and a book like this will not lie about this for a measly 7k. Get over it u got caught and your getting your original deposits back and now u lost all your credibilty with SBR if u ever need them in the future.

[Lint Pockets]

f*ck this place after reading all this bullsh*t i won't be depositing on there. i play poker and bet sports so i wanted to have a poker room to play at too. knowing this joke site me and another player will sign up for the same heads up sng a few times and they will claim i know the person and not pay me.

I guess i jumped to conclusions and should have waited the outcome of this case before posting what i did. I apologize for my original post as i thought this cheating scumbag was actually getting screwed over by your site. I will be giving your site a try in the future.

[Tully Mars 63]

Well when they were doing things like asking me to provide both my last names and not answering my questions I certainly thought they were a scam and I repeatedly posted that. Especially when I considered the posts being made by Zach. But in the end they paid me, they PM'ed me and explained most of the problems/delays with my payout. They made a reference that part of the problem "might" be with some processors they were using but for the most part they explained they "screwed up" and apologized.

Looks like I was wrong as well. I'm happy to admit that and I wish BOL nothing but the best.

[SBR Lou]

For the record,

We have confirmed that Zach attempted to deposit to a total of two BetOnline accounts using the same CC. Both accounts were linked by IP. We have also confirmed that Zach has scammed a total of seven gaming sites. Each one had a poker room. The notes for each entry contained either CC or checking acct fraud.

The card Zach used at BOL will be refunded. The two CC's of his accomplices in the chip-dump will also have their cards refunded.