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Why didn't SBR tell us?
Don't the think for a minute that THE GREEK decided this morning to pull the plug. This was in the planning stage for months. Heritage knew also...
So why did SBR not tell us? It's the Joe Blow small players that were the last to know...
SBR knew yet they kept a secret..
Same BS as BetEd, Nobody knew about them either..Yet tons of players lost their ass
I am beginning to think its all scam...
SBR is supposed to be there for the player..well it does not seem so
if we cant gamble online sites like this one will be next to close shop
Tony 5dimes of all people gave a clue to this happening. There was a thread in which the person could claim the entire win on some disputed outcome or accept Tonys offer and keep his 5dimes account. Op said he wanted it all...Tony said that 5dimes will soon be one of the few US offshore books left.
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Originally Posted by mighty maron
yep I remember that
The two best books for Americans have always been Bookmaker & DSI due to their pro limits & loyalty program, industry leaders by far now with the Greeks departure. 5 Dimes is a distant 3rd choice due to their low limits & collars.
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I agree with that,5 dimes ok, but after a certain amount they show you the door...
But does Bookmaker stay ..who knows?
damn i didn't think this would happen to thegreek, i thot they were solid as a rock
Their scared of losing more advertising dollars and the skim on all the referals.
eyeball I understand why you might suspect that, but it's just not the case
sportsbook people are very secretive about letting out info like that in general
The first I hint I had about it was Thursday night, when someone (not an SBR person, obviously) told me that there would be "big news" coming very soon, but he couldn't tell me what it was
I finally knew what the news was only hours before it was posted at SBR
the idea that people at SBR know about this stuff well in advance and keep it secret because they don't care about posters or players is flat-out wrong
[quote=CarpeDime;10827666]eyeball I understand why you might suspect that, but it's just not the case
sportsbook people are very secretive about letting out info like that in general
The first I hint I had about it was Thursday night, when someone (not an SBR person, obviously) told me that there would be "big news" coming very soon, but he couldn't tell me what it was
I finally knew what the news was only hours before it was posted at SBR
the idea that people at SBR know about this stuff well in advance and keep it secret because they don't care about posters or players is flat-out wrong[/quot
Ok good point..I will keep an open mind..
Not bashing anyone here just confused as anyone else
Eyeball, I don't think they could have done anything if they did know. Double edge sword.
SBR has not been about helping players for a very long time. If your sportsbook has an ad banner at SBR, you have zero chance in any dispute.
SBR absolutely knew this was coming.
Last edited by scott235; 07-24-11 at 05:23 AM.
Heritage will be a sponser at SBR very soon if they are not already.
Well SBR cant know everything, there is always a risk when betting offshore even on big books like betjam and beted (different situations thou)
Try to keep your balance low making withdrawals, i believe thats the safest way to keep playing offshore.
Loshack you are so full of crap its not even funny
From Strip malls outside of Montreal to call centers in the UK this rumor was floating out there for almost a year along with matchbook
Now tell them what else is out there
I really don't think this was in the works anywhere near a year. Betjam was paying to advertise on covers up until just last month. And when you could get cash with points Betjam was the cheapest option, which I'm sure they paid for so they would get more players. They wouldn't have been investing money in the company if they were thinking about shutting it down.
I'd like to know what the story is behind the closing. What pushed them to this decision, or what is coming that scared them off?
Just like to interject that 5Dimes doesn't have low limits. If you bet max on a play... give there system a chance to adjust the line and you can go max again. I risked 10k on Dallas Mavs to win the Finals and was paid in full. I also risked several 2H wagers during the NBA finals at 3K a side and had no issues. You can practically risk any amount I would imagine? You just need to let the system adjust the line in 2-3 minutes.
Well, the US still has: Legends, 5Dimes and BetOnline
This is a good thread. Always looking for more people to point fingers at.
It is really not SBR fault. betjamaica should have told all customers this was coming. Are there any sportsbooks for U.S players that we dont have to worry about closing? If so, I would love to know one.....
Even if SBR knew....... if they post something like that with the details not yet worked out, people would have panicked, started asking tons of questions that there were no answers to, etc...... There was no reason for alarm, since you are getting your cash (unlike the BetEd or BoS fiascos). If you don't want to go to Heritage, thats fine (although you are an idiot). But SBR acted responsibly here.
SBR did know. Also, time and time again, the only time SBR has gone to bat for the forum is when the book is a non sponser (ie: easystreet).
so if u think they knew ,why would u belong to sbr if u think they are a fraud,,dont like some of the things they have done but im not so sure they knew
Very fair question. I trust a small subset of posters on this forum for important industry info.
If you keep large amounts of money in off shore accounts, you are just begging to get ripped off. If you do not know tis by now, there really is not much hope for you guys.
I don't see any advantage in prior knowledge to this move. Perhaps a better forum could have dealt with the information in a constructive way, but this place would have erupted into a panic.
SBR will still go to bat for players, but their role as industry informer is a thing of the distant past.
So does that mean these books will get hit by the feds at some time in the future?
The Nixon tapes will prove that we only became aware of this the day before.
For everyone involved this is a negative. It's literally trading two A+ books for one B+ book. We are trying to analyze what kind of deal it really is and if the moves are good, bad or indifferent for players.
I can honestly say right now that we have no idea if the players are safe or not with this deal. They are certainly not as safe as they were unless the Greek is somehow guaranteeing balances which so far I've seen no mention to that effect.
Bottomline is this deal came alive somewhat in the middle of some recent night. SBR is concerned and is trying hard to understand the deal, the move and if the players money is sufficient and safe. Give us until this time next week.
You are right, The Greek and BetJam didn't just wake up in the morning and decided this. This was months in the making. Yes it was a tacky move to not let their players know, but it was also a good business decision.. Some ask why they did it? The U.S is making is hard for these sportsbooks to operate, but not impossible. They just didn't feel like dealing with the hassle. It would be the equivalent of a player using multiple books, but one particular book taking too long for payouts so the player moves on. The book could have been solid but the long payouts were just not worth it anymore. Going back to the situation, they made money but it just wasn't worth the hassle...
My best guess is that there will be familiar books who pick up the slack left by the departure of betjam and greek. And maybe even a few news ones who step up and take some market share.. While I can't speak for years down the road, I can tell you that players will be able to wager and not worry about their cash in the short term. So go ahead and wager. Today you're good, tomorrow you're good. Next month you're good. 3 years down the road, who the heck knows.........
Some of these posts are unreal
Heritage will be a sponser at SBR very soon if they are not already.
You knew.
Really cause thatīs exactly what Bill said they were doing.
yeah they could have let me deposit into betjam b/c heritage has no cc processor===
Comedy gold
Last edited by Halifax; 07-25-11 at 11:30 AM.
what do you consider to be large amounts? in other words what is an acceptable amount?
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