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    SBGGLOBAL's "D-" SBR Rating

    Didn't really see why SBR has SBG rated the lowest possible rating (next to an F). Read something about a 70:1 prop bet they weasled out of over 2 years ago, but other than that, what are the present day issues with them I wonder?

    Never have been really fond of SBG because of the way they poach the loose change on wagers made. Sure it's only 50 cents here, 50 cents there, but all that change over the course of say one year adds up, doesn't it?

    Why I use SBG is because they pay the person-to-person fees to deposit $50 or more, and have yet to find any other Book that does that. Find a lot that will pay the fee on depositing $500, or $300, or $200 even like at Betjm, but who else will pay the fee on $50 or $100?

    The other reason why I use SBG is they offer a true dime line on MLB. Don't think U.S. players can get better than that online, can we?

    So I deposited $50 lost, then $100 lost, then lost another $100, then $50 more and am in now for $300. With my last $50 deposit I got the balance over $400. Not talking big money here. Decided to get my $300 back, and requested a payout via ** which they charged me a $47 fee. Paying them $47 to send me $300, even though the person-to-person charges to deposit were only $9.

    Don't we have the right to know (when paying them a whopping $47 payout fee to just send us $300), if you don't get the money in minutes, in hours, in days ... what the delay is? I clearly and specifically asked them a simple, direct question, "why in over 2 business days is the money still sitting in my account?"

    Talk about evading the question, they dodged it up, down, sideways and anyway other than providing a simple, direct answer. I got responses like, "we process payouts in the order they're received." So naturally I asked, are you saying you have payout requests from 2 if not more business days ago that you've yet to process? What could possibly be the reason for that? Is it ...

    A) SBGGLOBAL is bankrupt and doesn't have the money
    B) SBGGLOBAL is mismanaged/understaffed and cannot handle the day's workload
    C) SBGGLOBAL is implementing an intentional gaming industry stalling tactic

    ???

    Now if the answer was 'B', I'd simply ask them based on the number of payout requests they have to process ahead of mine, how many more days do I have to wait. They should know exactly on what day my payout will be processed based on their queue, shouldn't they? They know EXACTLY the number of payout requests ahead of mine, and how many they can do daily, and with simple math can determine the timeframe for my request. Is that so difficult?

    Basically at this point, SBGGLOBAL's payout policy appears to be we'll process your payout if and when we're good and ready to do so. Definitely not the type of Book we should be entrusting our action/$ to, is it? Charging me a $47 fee for a $300 payout, which I expect and accept as a same-day (or at worst next business day) processing, is I feel just them spitting in my face and insulting me when they won't tell me the day to expect to receive the paper. Mind you I opened the account with them over a year ago, have deposited flawlessly with them dozens of times, so there's no question on the integrity of my deposits which are all good funds.

    No straight answer from SBGGLOBAL. No answer at all in fact, just the run-around. If they can't (or should I say if they won't) tell me when exactly they'll process my tiny $300 payout that I requested and am paying them $47 to do, use SBGGLOBAL at your own risk.

    SBGGLOBAL's 'D-' SBR rating appears to be valid I'm afraid to say, based on my own personal and current experience.

    If and when SBGGLOBAL can muster $300, and can employ someone to process it, and have implemented the stalling tactic long enough so they come to the point where they will actually pay me the money, I'll be sure to let you know. In the meantime, I plan to be here daily sharing all of their actions (or lack thereof) with the forum. Don't be mad with me SBGGLOBAL, as this is how you choose to operate, and so you need to take responsibility for your own actions. Just like when I lose a bet I place on your site, I take responsibility. Not an excuse in the world as to why you have failed to process a $300 payout in over 2 business days. Even if there was a power outage, you should have a generator, or a system failure, you should have a back-up. Not that they're saying the payout delay is a computer system issue or anything. Though that is my main gripe, they're just not saying anything.
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    Found this on http://www.sportsgamblingreview.com/sbgglobal.htm

    SBG Global Deposit / Withdrawal Options

    SBG Global will process player withdrawal requests 24 hours a day and 7 days a week.

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    But on their site they do say ...

    "payouts can be requested Monday through Saturday only."

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    Found this on http://www.donbest.com/sbgglobal/review/

    Minimum Bet: $1 on-line

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    But when trying to do a $1 wager their site says ...

    "The minimum amount per wager is $10"

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    LOL stop playing there.

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    Found this on http://www.topsportsbooks.com/sports...rtsbook-review

    SBG Global will process player withdrawal requests 24 hours a day and 7 days a week.

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    Why are these simple basic facts published incorrectly no matter where you look?

    Starting to see why SBR says this, ". sbg Global has a documented history of deceptive and unfair business practices, and maintains a rating of D- on SBR's sportsbook blacklist."


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    Found this on http://www.osga.com/Books_list.htm

    1. has no outstanding 'no-pay' complaints on record
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    May be time for me to file one

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    Try scrolling down a bit in the review and read what happened in 2006.

    Until they fix that, they will stay D-.

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    would say to stay away from this place!!

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    Keep playing there, I'm sure things will be just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goblue12 View Post
    Try scrolling down a bit in the review and read what happened in 2006.

    Until they fix that, they will stay D-.
    Yikes you're right, I didn't scroll far enough down.

    11/26/2006 11:55 PM
    sbg global (SBR rating D-) cancels five-figure withdrawal, asking player to get in contact with management. Management has been unavailable and has not attempted to contact the player. SBG users with substantial balances are advised to withdraw their funds immediately. This past year the sportsbook has reverted to its old ways of hassling and stealing from large balance holders after a relatively quiet two year period.

    Sports-Gambling (SBR rating D-): New player reports confiscated $3,000 balance after transfer from SunsetSports (SBR rating F-) account, for being "too sharp". The sbg global (SBR rating D-) Group has confiscated over $33,000 in legitimate balances in past year.


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    I can't think of any reason to play there

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    To many other great shops to worry about these idiots

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    SBG is a joke. If you are a square player they will give you the best service in the world but if you are gambling in an effort to actually make money, it won't be long until they shut you down and steal your balance. So many options, why pick SBG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberinvestor View Post
    SBG is a joke. If you are a square player they will give you the best service in the world but if you are gambling in an effort to actually make money, it won't be long until they shut you down and steal your balance. So many options, why pick SBG?
    Wrong.

    I'm sure that comment will play well to the reading audience, but ... wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halifax View Post
    Wrong. I'm sure that comment will play well to the reading audience, but ... wrong.
    Agree with Halifax. Always had good experiences with SBG. They have limited me somewhat, but still a worthwhile shop for me.

    BAUS

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    SBG is not that bad a book will pay you eventually but they are slow to do it. IMHO greek and bet jam are better choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halifax View Post
    Wrong. I'm sure that comment will play well to the reading audience, but ... wrong.
    Respect your opinion Halifax but they stole from me and have stolen from others, Justin worked my dispute and called it outright theft what they pulled on me.

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    I honestly offer to avoid this book.

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    that's the reason you avoid shit books

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    SBG=

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    100% shit book

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    Though it took 5 business days, finally got my 3 bills. Taking a week isn't my main gripe. SBG failing to answer my direct questions, such as ... what's the delay, and when is the soonest I'll get my money, is what irks me. Cannot entrust my action to a place that cannot and/or will not give you a straight answer. Why they choose to run their Book this way is senseless. How they cannot know what is going on with the money is inconceivable.


    In addition, I sent SBG an email last Sunday night as follows:



    To customer.support@sbgglobal.com

    From: *
    Sent:Mon 7/11/11 12:15 AM
    To: customer.support@sbgglobal.com

    **Greetings: I wish to hereby request a payout of three-hundred ($300) U.S. Dollars via **. For some reason, your website is failing to show this option. Please deduct $300, plus the payout fee from my account # W*****, so that I may pick up $300 which you should send TO:

    Name: *
    City & State: *
    Country: *

    Phone #: *

    Please confirm you've receive my request, and provide a timeframe for my picking up the funds.

    Thank you,

    *

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    SBG NEVER (to this day a week later) replied to the email. Of course, if you email them that you want to make a deposit, they'll not only reply to that, they'll do so in minutes.

    In comparison, when doing a payout say from betjm in the AM, you get the payout info by 6 PM, and can ALWAYS get your money the next day (if not the same day). So when chooing an online sportsbook for me, knowing places that I can get my payout within 24 hrs, and not knowing with SBG when or even if I'll get paid, SBG is right where they belong and deserve to be ... on the Blacklist.

    Also, SBG if you want to keep losing business by providing poor customer service, be sure to keep failing to reply to those payout request emails, etc. Go ahead, just ignore them. Because if losing business is your goal, you're doing a great job. And as I implied, taking a week to get the money would be ok, if that's what you openly disclose and tell me upfront. So why not just man-up out in the open, instead of hiding behind the scenes? The image projected by SBG when it came down to me asking about my payout (and for a small amount), is that they are not a place we want to use. Too much needless grief, not to mention, they poach all the loose change on sportsbook wagers. It's a pretty sad tale of woe at SBG
    Last edited by 4seasons; 07-17-11 at 01:10 PM.

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    I see all the deposit methods are still on their web site but they have removed all the payout methods from their site

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion View Post
    I see all the deposit methods are still on their web site but they have removed all the payout methods from their site
    All payout methods are removed from their site over the weekend. They were back up at 9am this morning

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    I know that SBG has a terrible reputation in the past from reading this forum , however my personal experience has been completely different. I joined SBG Global in April 2010 , and have not had one problem. In fact , i have made three withdrawals in the past 2 weeks amounting to some 25K and received all three withdrawals within 72 hours from making each request, one of which I had within 24 hours, which is far superior to most books out there.

    I like the fact they take a decent wager, and in my own opinion the past issues are that....past issues.

    Based on my experience over the last 15 months dealing with them, I would give this book a B+ rating at least.

    They are certainly better than some A rated books (SBR rating) such as 5 Dimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absolutelyonfire View Post

    I like the fact they take a decent wager, and in my own opinion the past issues are that....past issues.
    So you think stealing from players in the past isn't a big deal anymore because they paid you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    So you think stealing from players in the past isn't a big deal anymore because they paid you?
    No , not saying that at all.....what i'm trying to say is that maybe business structure has changed...is the management the same ?? all businesses change over time , especially in this industry....just look at WSEX !!

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    ha ha, maybe they are hoping a little pause before payout will entice some to play some more rather than cash out

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    I was paid over 100k from sbg global!! Never limited never a problem getting 1 single payout. This was 8 years ago but they paid me no ?'s ask..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    So you think stealing from players in the past isn't a big deal anymore because they paid you?

    U do know there is more to this story.. SBR is only telling u one side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkdown View Post
    U do know there is more to this story.. SBR is only telling u one side.
    So are you saying they didn't steal from me and countless others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absolutelyonfire View Post
    I know that SBG has a terrible reputation in the past from reading this forum , however my personal experience has been completely different. I joined SBG Global in April 2010 , and have not had one problem. In fact , i have made three withdrawals in the past 2 weeks amounting to some 25K and received all three withdrawals within 72 hours from making each request, one of which I had within 24 hours, which is far superior to most books out there.

    I like the fact they take a decent wager, and in my own opinion the past issues are that....past issues.

    Based on my experience over the last 15 months dealing with them, I would give this book a B+ rating at least.

    They are certainly better than some A rated books (SBR rating) such as 5 Dimes.
    To be blunt, I think you're a lying sack of what makes the grass grow. You imply you received a payout of thousands of dollars within 24 hours. Regardless of the amount, even if it was $100, I'm sure that didn't happen and your just lying probably because you're a paid shill for SBG. You can easily prove me wrong by providing documentation, which I won't bother asking you for because I know you'll never comply. Anyone can say anything about anyone online. Talking the talk is easy, but can you walk the walk? Can you and will you prove you got a payout of any amount from SBG within 24 hours? If so, so start by telling me when exactly you requested the payout, and when exactly you were able to pickup your money. If you do that, then I'll tell you how you can provide concrete documentation to backup your story. Otherwise, smoke another one.

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    Why sbgglobal does not offer payout by check/fedex anymore?
    I think they had it before

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4seasons View Post
    To be blunt, I think you're a lying sack of what makes the grass grow. You imply you received a payout of thousands of dollars within 24 hours. Regardless of the amount, even if it was $100, I'm sure that didn't happen and your just lying probably because you're a paid shill for SBG. You can easily prove me wrong by providing documentation, which I won't bother asking you for because I know you'll never comply. Anyone can say anything about anyone online. Talking the talk is easy, but can you walk the walk? Can you and will you prove you got a payout of any amount from SBG within 24 hours? If so, so start by telling me when exactly you requested the payout, and when exactly you were able to pickup your money. If you do that, then I'll tell you how you can provide concrete documentation to backup your story. Otherwise, smoke another one.
    Before you start making false accusations against me , perhaps you could be bothered to spend a few minutes searching some of my posts !! If you had been bothered to do so rather than making false accusations , you will soon find that most of my posts on this site have been with reference to being stiffed by WSEX , which is how I found the site in the first place.

    Anyway to answer your question , I have made 4 withdrawals from SBG Global this month all of which I have received within 72 hours from requesting. The 24 hour payment I received was requested on 7/4 and funds were in my bank account the following day.

    You want proof just send me a private message , and when proof has been established I expect a full apology to your false accusations in public on this board.

    Deal ???

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    Prefer not to be bothered with any referrence to wsex, as it doesn't pertain to you referrence here about sbgglobal. Now if you're talking about a transfer to a bank account, you're talking apples and I'm talking oranges. My payout was via a person-to-person cash transfer. So I would first need to know from you the following:

    - I'm a resident/citizen of the United States, are you? If not, then what SBG can do for you isn't the same for U.S. accounts.

    - For next day availability, you had to pay for a wire, verses getting a free EFT transfer, which takes 2-3 business days, right? So you had to pay the sender's fees, and your bank's incoming wire fees, which is way more than the 47 bucks I paid.

    - If you wager 4 figures, and I wager 3, then what SBG comps you naturally is more than what they comp me, right?

    Just disagreed with what you were saying Abs, and turns out I was right. Maybe you didn't mean to imply otherise. Fact is, you didn't get a next day person-2-person transfer, which took me a whole week to get a mere $300. What's more is that each time I asked SBG about when exactly will I get paid, they repeatedly refused to answer. Why don't they just say that if you request a payout on Monday, you'll get paid on Friday?

    To summarize, for a U.S. resident/citizen (not for a resident outside the U.S.), who wagers a hundred bucks in the sportsbook (who doesn't wager thousands), who requests a payout via person-to-person transfer (not a payout via a transfer to a bank account), will get this lousy service from SBG as follows:

    - Takes 3 days to see the money removed from your account, three, count them, one, two, three days!!!

    - Won't get told the day will be paid, now this, to me, is inexcusable!!!

    - Takes 5 days to get paid $300 to which cost $47, count those dollars, forty-seven of them!!!


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