[bobbywaves]

Bookmaker & DSI have reduced their free payouts for diamond members from weekly to bi-weekly. Apparently because they removed a certain free withdrawal method, losing processors which were causing the major payout delays. As a diamond member, I haven't been offered any compensation for this inconvenience as of yet.

[durito]

compensation

[bobbywaves]

compensation

Yes....In my humble opinion, compensation is in order..... Two free payouts a month have been taken away which diamond customers like myself were accustomed to. These free weekly payouts were one of the factors that played a part in my decision to sign up with Bookmaker/DSI.

[John Dough]

Things change, processors come and go, books have the right to change policies as necessary.

If you can't handle this sort of thing, you probably shouldn't use offshores in the current environment.

[Hareeba!]

You can make two free withdrawals every month and you're complaining ?

That sounds to me to be way better than any other US serving book.

Even Pinnacle offers only one.

Surely you can organise your affairs so that a withdrawal once a fortnight is adequate ?

[John Dough]

You can make two free withdrawals every month and you're complaining ?

That sounds to me to be way better than any other US serving book.

Even Pinnacle offers only one.

Surely you can organise your affairs so that a withdrawal once a fortnight is adequate ?

Not to mention that since he still gets betpoints it's unlikely he needs to withdraw 4X/month anyway.

Those of us with a clue have been cut off from betpoints a long time ago and recently lost the only withdrawal method that was free b/c of processor issues. I now get zero free withdrawals per month, but you won't see me whining about it. In the current environment for US residents, sh!t happens. You either deal with it or quit using that shop.

[Monte]

Even Pinnacle offers only one.

Just that with Pinny i could cash out 100k and not paying a single cent.

[TheBeautifulGame]

Withdrawal fees are completely alien to me due to the fact that I use Moneybookers. I've never been charged to withdraw by Moneybookers although Bet911 (remember them) stated they charged a $30 withdrawal fee for Moneybookers which is why I never joined. $30! Jesus, every other site is free(except pinnacle) and it should be.

[John Dough]

Withdrawal fees are completely alien to me due to the fact that I use Moneybookers. I've never been charged to withdraw by Moneybookers although Bet911 (remember them) stated they charged a $30 withdrawal fee for Moneybookers which is why I never joined. $30! Jesus, every other site is free(except pinnacle) and it should be.

Why do non-US residents continue to post stuff like this? Of course they're alien to you.

This contributes nothing when Americans are discussing payout methods/fees.

[Hareeba!]

Withdrawal fees are completely alien to me due to the fact that I use Moneybookers. I've never been charged to withdraw by Moneybookers although Bet911 (remember them) stated they charged a $30 withdrawal fee for Moneybookers which is why I never joined. $30! Jesus, every other site is free(except pinnacle) and it should be.

Pinnacle is free for one withdrawal per month.
Very few of the US serving books offer free withdrawals.
I think Betjam does and Greek does if you've had action in each of the previous 4 weeks.
All UK and Aussie books offer free withdrawals to the best of my knowledge.
I too use Moneybookers for my USD accounts and it costs nothing to deposit or withdraw.

[John Dough]

Very few of the US serving books offer free withdrawals.
I think Betjam does and Greek does if you've had action in each of the previous 4 weeks.

5Dimes, Sportsbook.com group, BetOnline, Heritage all offer one free payout per month (low limits with the exception of SB, but at least they're free).

[kisado]

For me, it's absolutely imperative that the shop I use offers a free payout. Not because I'm stingy but just the principle of it. Why pay a fee to get my money back? I understand that it may cost the book a few pennies to process a payout but IMO they should chock that up to operating costs. A very small percentage of players at a given sportsbook even make a withdrawal at all. I just don't see the point of paying a fee to cash out funds that you deposited.

[bobbywaves]

For me, it's absolutely imperative that the shop I use offers a free payout. Not because I'm stingy but just the principle of it. Why pay a fee to get my money back? I understand that it may cost the book a few pennies to process a payout but IMO they should chock that up to operating costs. A very small percentage of players at a given sportsbook even make a withdrawal at all. I just don't see the point of paying a fee to cash out funds that you deposited.

Imperative for me as well, as it's against my principles to pay for deposits or withdrawals. I never have, never will. Sure, books have a right to change their procedures as they see fit. Just as I have a right to voice my displeasure about it & take my business elsewhere if I see fit.

[megamillionslose]

Cash out twice or more on your bet points & those COCKSMOKING managers at Bookmaker will eventually take away your Diamond status & confiscate all your bet points!

Not to mention that since he still gets betpoints it's unlikely he needs to withdraw 4X/month anyway.

Those of us with a clue have been cut off from betpoints a long time ago and recently lost the only withdrawal method that was free b/c of processor issues. I now get zero free withdrawals per month, but you won't see me whining about it. In the current environment for US residents, sh!t happens. You either deal with it or quit using that shop.

[bobbywaves]

Cash out twice or more on your bet points & those COCKSMOKING managers at Bookmaker will eventually take away your Diamond status & confiscate all your bet points!

I redeemed bet points for cash many times from both DSI & Bookmaker, over $10,000 worth. They never removed my diamond status nor confiscated bet points, as I'm sure they know I would most definitely take my business elsewhere if that ever happened.

[megamillionslose]

Maybe that's why they didn't confiscate your bet points.Bookmaker one of the two preferred books my fave NFL teaser tout usually quotes lines from & i love their 8% daily rebate on racebook exotic wagers.Unfortunately the Dept. of Justice crackdown has made me wary of keeping too much money at a book that had their domain shut down.May be truly wise to start transferring or cashing out some of your funds soon since Bookmaker is going to get a nice influx of funds for king FB shortly.Once FB season is over wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see serious problems for those seeking to cash out since the DOJ crackdown had to have cost BM seven or eight figures in losses that they probably won't be able to recoup

I redeemed bet points for cash many times from both DSI & Bookmaker, over $10,000 worth. They never removed my diamond status nor confiscated bet points, as I'm sure they know I would most definitely take my business elsewhere if that ever happened.

[lumpy19]

Not to mention that since he still gets betpoints it's unlikely he needs to withdraw 4X/month anyway.

Those of us with a clue have been cut off from betpoints a long time ago and recently lost the only withdrawal method that was free b/c of processor issues. I now get zero free withdrawals per month, but you won't see me whining about it. In the current environment for US residents, sh!t happens. You either deal with it or quit using that shop.

Easy there buddy. I've had my limits cut at bookmaker but I'm still getting my betpoints. I wish they'd take the betpoints and give me back regular limits.

[bobbywaves]

Easy there buddy. I've had my limits cut at bookmaker but I'm still getting my betpoints. I wish they'd take the betpoints and give me back regular limits.

Easy there buddy, I never heard of Bookmaker cutting anyones limits. It's obvious Bookmaker/DSI welcomes professional action with their high limits.

[megamillionslose]

Numerous non-Asian handicap overseas soccer matches have strict $250 limits(even after they adjust the line).Bookmaker was TOO SCARED to post CBKB over/under numbers on ALL games until the tourneys this past year(probably after suffering STEEP losses from Right Angle Sports clients & followers the past few years).WIMPY management DIDN'T HAVE THE BALLS to follow TheGreek's lead of switching from a 20 cent line down to a 10 cent line this MLB season.Throw in the domain shutdown by the DOJ & the writing is easily on the wall

Easy there buddy, I never heard of Bookmaker cutting anyones limits. It's obvious Bookmaker/DSI welcomes professional action with their high limits.

[John Dough]

Easy there buddy. I've had my limits cut at bookmaker but I'm still getting my betpoints. I wish they'd take the betpoints and give me back regular limits.

You must know you're in the minority as far as keeping your betpoints. That's kinda bizarre, never heard of anyone else in your situation, but I believe you.

[John Dough]

the DOJ crackdown had to have cost BM seven or eight figures in losses that they probably won't be able to recoup

Where in the world did you come up with 7 or 8 figures? They reportedly had less than 6-figures seized.

[bobbywaves]

Numerous non-Asian handicap overseas soccer matches have strict $250 limits(even after they adjust the line).Bookmaker was TOO SCARED to post CBKB over/under numbers on ALL games until the tourneys this past year(probably after suffering STEEP losses from Right Angle Sports clients & followers the past few years).WIMPY management DIDN'T HAVE THE BALLS to follow TheGreek's lead of switching from a 20 cent line down to a 10 cent line this MLB season.Throw in the domain shutdown by the DOJ & the writing is easily on the wall

I'm not concerned about Bookmakers soccer limits, soccer takes a back seat here in the USA. I'm not concerned about Bookmakers 20 cent baseball line, as I play their sister site DSI's 10 cent line. As far as the domain shutdown, they didn't miss a beat & it was business as usual unlike other books (BetEd). Bookmaker has no balls? They allow you to bet 50k on the Superbowl. Despite the reduction in free payouts which I'm not happy about, Bookmaker is still one of the best books for Americans.

[David]

Payouts are becoming harder for books.

[Hareeba!]

Easy there buddy, I never heard of Bookmaker cutting anyones limits.

well you have now

[bobbywaves]

well you have now

Doesn't mean I believe it, there's not a snowballs chance in Hell that Bookmaker cuts limits.

[John Dough]

Doesn't mean I believe it, there's not a snowballs chance in Hell that Bookmaker cuts limits.

I guess they don't have delays or cut the teaser odds of sharps either.

[Hareeba!]

Doesn't mean I believe it, there's not a snowballs chance in Hell that Bookmaker cuts limits.

believe what you will but they do

it appears from your earlier posts that you think the world starts and stops in the US

well buddy, it don't, there are other places and sports and CRIS/DSI/Bookmaker do reduce limits for sure

[soxwin1917]

Doesn't mean I believe it, there's not a snowballs chance in Hell that Bookmaker cuts limits.

You're making the other Americans like myself in this thread look bad. Stop talking.

[bobbywaves]

believe what you will but they do it appears from your earlier posts that you think the world starts and stops in the US well buddy, it don't, there are other places and sports and CRIS/DSI/Bookmaker do reduce limits for sure

You got it buddy, it does for me as USA is where I live. Obviously I only care about US books, tell me again why I should care about books that don't cater to Americans?

[bobbywaves]

I guess they don't have delays or cut the teaser odds of sharps either.

U guessed right Johnny.

[John Dough]

U guessed right Johnny.

You're really intent on proving your ignorance, eh? Mission accomplished!

[bobbywaves]

You're making the other Americans like myself in this thread look bad. Stop talking.

Hmmm.....So being an SBR Pro apparently gives you the right to tell people to stop talking? Let me enlighten you, this is called a forum. I have a right to say what I want as often as I want, as do you. If you don't like what's being discussed or have nothing intelligent to add, then I suggest you leave.

[Hareeba!]

You got it buddy, it does for me as USA is where I live. Obviously I only care about US books, tell me again why I should care about books that don't cater to Americans?

I wasn't suggesting you care about books which don't cater to Americans.

I was simply pointing out to you that you were incorrect to state that Bookmaker never limits anyone. That's all.

[bobbywaves]

I wasn't suggesting you care about books which don't cater to Americans. I was simply pointing out to you that you were incorrect to state that Bookmaker never limits anyone. That's all.

Feel free to click on the following link & scroll down to limit collars: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Reviews/BookMaker/

[Hareeba!]

Feel free to click on the following link & scroll down to limit collars: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Reviews/BookMaker/

you don't want to believe everything you read

it may be true of US sports but most certainly not on some others