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    AsianConnect Betting Brokerage ?!

    http://www.asianconnect88.com/

    Share thoughts on this?

    General Conditions
    As a condition of use, you undertake that :
    1. You are not restricted by limited legal capacity;
    2. You are over 18 years of age.
    3. You agree that you are required to provide us with certain personal details about yourself ( including details regarding your methods of payment) for the purpose of using this service.
    4. You are solely responsible for any applicable taxes which may be payable on winnings paid to you;
    5. You acknowledge the possible risk of losing money arising from the use of the service and the Asianconnect have no responsibility to you for any such loss;
    6. You agree to keep your account name and password secret and confidential and not to allow anyone else to use it. If you misplace you account name or password, you should notify our customer services department immediately.
    7. You acknowledge that any betting made through our service in your account username and password will be regarded as valid;


    This should legally own one´s soul

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    Obviously you're not used to playing at the best conducted books if you find any of that to be out of order.

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    lol hareeba is right

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    i am using them currently
    they have a presence in betting advice fourm been around for quite some time
    if you are not comfortable in keeping ur $$ in ur betting a/c
    you could always deposite the day you want to bet and withdraw ur winnings the next day ,

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    What do they even do!?? sound like punks

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    Quote Originally Posted by roanildinho View Post
    What do they even do!?? sound like punks

    They are a master agent for several asian books i think....
    since you are able to join them as an affiliate..

    Other than that, they function jus like any agent ,deposite with them,open an ac and bet.
    Plus betting through msn,if the website is blocked in ur area..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    Obviously you're not used to playing at the best conducted books if you find any of that to be out of order.
    Im european and I have an account with my local legal Nordicbet partner, Pinnacle, Bet365 and I dont really need more, since my bet-timing will almost always lead me to one of those and my local Nordicbet and Pinnacle dont cut players .... !?
    So Im asking kindly: how do they work, who use them and how safe it is ?
    Last edited by tukkk; 05-30-11 at 01:17 AM.

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    Conditions are reasonable. Bet brokerage firms seem the new wave; there has been one launching in Aus recently and now this one. Bet Brokers (a UK firm) led the way, but they went belly up and I'm not sure everyone got paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tukkk View Post
    Im european and I have an account with my local legal Nordicbet partner, Pinnacle, Bet365 and I dont really need more, since my bet-timing will almost always lead me to one of those and my local Nordicbet and Pinnacle dont cut players .... !?
    So Im asking kindly: how do they work, who use them and how safe it is ?
    to ans ur qn..

    I am using them,more more than a year already
    I dun really have alot of funds with them all the time,i keep most of mine bankroll in moneybrookers.
    You may deposit before match time thru mb and then bet and withdraw again,No limits on number of withdrawal as far as i know

    with regards to qn2 ,
    they function as an agent, seems to be paid based on turnover ,amt of bets by their client .i haven been limited so far.

    with regards to qn3 ,how safe it is
    I think they have a gaming license given by the govt of the Netherlands Antillies,same as the one pinny got .

    bottom line is , when the amt is big ,just withdraw it to mb, : ) ,you feel safer and still can get access to asianbooks odds

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    Quote Originally Posted by tukkk View Post
    Im european and I have an account with my local legal Nordicbet partner, Pinnacle, Bet365 and I dont really need more, since my bet-timing will almost always lead me to one of those and my local Nordicbet and Pinnacle dont cut players .... !?
    So Im asking kindly: how do they work, who use them and how safe it is ?
    LOL
    you don't need more because you are a loser!
    if for a small period, you win money with this book, they immediately will limit your account.
    bet365 had limited my account after I win only 2000€.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuon View Post
    LOL
    you don't need more because you are a loser!
    if for a small period, you win money with this book, they immediately will limit your account.
    bet365 had limited my account after I win only 2000€.
    Originally Posted by tukkk
    Im european and I have an account with my local legal Nordicbet partner, Pinnacle, Bet365 and I dont really need more, since my bet-timing will almost always lead me to one of those and my local NORDICBET and PINNACLE DONT cut players .... !?

    [x] Zuon has no reading skills, where did I mention Bet365 not limiting ?!
    [x] brags about his 2000€ win, seriously, how much more OT can you go

    [x] Zuon trashes this thread without contributing anything

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    Santo and Automat, thanks for your feedback

    Waiting for more feedback about this site, e.g. in what circumstances are they the only option

    The line : "If you want to bet more than books offer" is just too shady for me ... and the fees ... what about them
    Has anyone had bigger amounts with them and how long do withdrawals take, any problems?

    Waiting for answers

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    looks nice

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    Asianconnect can be a possibility to get an IBCBET account, when Dafabet starts to give me a personal limit.

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    Interesting...

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    What is the name of the brokerage that has opened in Aus Santo?

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    keep away from them, they are a shady company

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzostar View Post
    keep away from them, they are a shady company
    why you think so?

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    gonzo ...

    Asian Connect <> ACBet, much like bwin is not the same as youwin, youwin is not the same as youwager, etc etc

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    asianconnect and acbet is almost the same as people know that. but the problem in the case gonzostar mentioned is based on the fact the guy was bonusabuser. and there were no more other cases so i dont see any proove of the statement watchout they are shady company as there are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzostar View Post
    I just read it. ACbet admitted that they made a mistake, and the guy (and everyone else who had funds confiscated) got paid in full.

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    I'd be curious how they're getting around limits - if it's via multiple accounts at ibc/sbo then those books are not going to be amused .... which may lead to problems.

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    acbet is shut now anyway, and IBC is well aware of AsianConnect ...

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    AsiaConnect is great. I'm using them for more then 2 years, never ever had a problem. Payouts are lightning quick. It's great if you're living in a country where Pinnacle&Sbo are restricted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeeeHAWWWW View Post
    I'd be curious how they're getting around limits - if it's via multiple accounts at ibc/sbo then those books are not going to be amused .... which may lead to problems.

    That always confused me about these brokerages, I dont see how someone with the sort of risk management many asian books have in place couldnt be aware of the presence of all the these brokerage accounts. But a friend in europe says he used Samvo for a few years and he says he never had a problem, I have been looking at 7betsports but still havent made the plunge.

    I do remember this article from 2007 about betbrokers, it was a brokerage that had money from alot of guys like formula ones eddie jordan and financial brokers behind it, had vinnie jones and some celebrities and tons of City brokers involved. Pretty good article in 2007 about betting brokerages popularity in london and betbrokers rise and the aftermath the next year. I am not sure who runs betbrokers now.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/m...-big-bang.html

    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/m...-of-funds.html

    I did visit the samvo betting shop. Pretty nice place, definitely not like your typical betting shop, more like a Deutsch Bahn lounge or nice private lounge in an airport but with gambling. These girls weren't there though and neither was Hayley turner.



    Last edited by gregm; 10-09-12 at 06:33 PM.

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    you all think I'm crazy but you will see what will happen.
    the bankruptcy of ACBET will create a wave that will take down Asianconnect.
    They repeat that they have money an it will not be a problem, but as you all know those were the exact word used by Lehman Brothers PR manager before they declared bankruptcy) Also if they had money to pay all the bettors who had money in their Acbet account, why don't they do it and also why do they have to lie about doing an update instead of telling the truth. I'll tell you why because they are trying to find a way to grab what they can and run

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    Like to hear SBR's take.

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    Asianconnect is licensed in Netherlands Antillies but so is players only and sportsbook.com. I love these brokerages but we shall see if they are built on as flimsy a foundation as so many sportsbooks

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    The only problem with them is the new deposit fee for Skrill deposits, so they're not worth using any more for most users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregm View Post
    Asianconnect is licensed in Netherlands Antillies but so is players only and sportsbook.com. I love these brokerages but we shall see if they are built on as flimsy a foundation as so many sportsbooks
    Well first licensing doesn't mean jack most anywhere. There are very limited select few good gambling commissions around the world but these are closed markets. Example: WCGRB in SA is imo the best gambling commission period but this is for people living there. Understand all the gambling commissions in open markets are for the benefit of the operator (almost period). It's to make them legal, it's for tax strategies, for obtaining merchant accounts or whatever else. The seal on the bottom of a website makes no difference. Those gambling commission are not there for nor should they ever be considered sells for the players. That's something for underwriters or police to look at or w/e.

    To correct a point though sportsbook.com is operating with a Malta license for sports and Kahnawake license for other products. Sportsbook.ag is Antigua licensed.

    Asian Connect

    Asianconnect N.V.
    Address: Dr.M.J. Hugenholtzweg z/n
    UTS-Gebouw
    Curaçao

    They operate under cyberluck license here.

    So not the same area:

    A couple things: Antigua has strict requirements for initial licensing such as criteria to meet, after that is somewhat lax a lot of reporting but that's all. It's also not third party subbed out licences. (Asian Connect is not licensed there). Where they are licensed (Curaçao) had written some of the best policies early on. Required physical presence on the Island, all servers be maintained there, required segregated funds etc. The policies were good, the enforcement was always questionable. In time it's gotten worse. There are now many companies that claim licensing there and don't even have it and the ones that do are subbed out. These would be pretty easy to find but there isn't a legit law enforcement division of their gaming commission such as exists in many closed regulated markets.

    Anyways all that just babble. I've always trusted Asian Connect I've referred to them and some to PN and BBB but right now I'd be a bit careful. They're huge and probably fine, but the ACBet thing does make me curious. Did a relationship spoil, if so, which and why? I've heard some talk that regarding development project of one of their associates. This makes me suspect maybe they are involved in this, but why close early. I don't know, nor do I even know they are involved with this. I've heard other talk further back that makes me a little nervous. but we're just talking about idiots who have big mouths where they shouldn't, I'm speculating, they're speculating etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop View Post
    Well first licensing doesn't mean jack most anywhere. There are very limited select few good gambling commissions around the world but these are closed markets. Example: WCGRB in SA is imo the best gambling commission period but this is for people living there. Understand all the gambling commissions in open markets are for the benefit of the operator (almost period). It's to make them legal, it's for tax strategies, for obtaining merchant accounts or whatever else. The seal on the bottom of a website makes no difference. Those gambling commission are not there for nor should they ever be considered sells for the players. That's something for underwriters or police to look at or w/e.

    To correct a point though sportsbook.com is operating with a Malta license for sports and Kahnawake license for other products. Sportsbook.ag is Antigua licensed.

    Asian Connect

    Asianconnect N.V.
    Address: Dr.M.J. Hugenholtzweg z/n
    UTS-Gebouw
    Curaçao

    They operate under cyberluck license here.

    So not the same area:

    A couple things: Antigua has strict requirements for initial licensing such as criteria to meet, after that is somewhat lax a lot of reporting but that's all. It's also not third party subbed out licences. (Asian Connect is not licensed there). Where they are licensed (Curaçao) had written some of the best policies early on. Required physical presence on the Island, all servers be maintained there, required segregated funds etc. The policies were good, the enforcement was always questionable. In time it's gotten worse. There are now many companies that claim licensing there and don't even have it and the ones that do are subbed out. These would be pretty easy to find but there isn't a legit law enforcement division of their gaming commission such as exists in many closed regulated markets.

    Anyways all that just babble. I've always trusted Asian Connect I've referred to them and some to PN and BBB but right now I'd be a bit careful. They're huge and probably fine, but the ACBet thing does make me curious. Did a relationship spoil, if so, which and why? I've heard some talk that regarding development project of one of their associates. This makes me suspect maybe they are involved in this, but why close early. I don't know, nor do I even know they are involved with this. I've heard other talk further back that makes me a little nervous. but we're just talking about idiots who have big mouths where they shouldn't, I'm speculating, they're speculating etc.
    Great post prop. I didnt realize that sportsbook.com had licensing out of Malta, I would assume that has something to do with its assumedly small non-US player base? One thing I really remember about Curacao ( Netherlands Antillies) and licensing was that it used to have my favorite books of all time, VIP, and even Nine.com and their x-rated calendars they sent to my home. LOL. Vip was a blast to wager at, probably the best rewards system out there, I still have a wide screen tv I used with the points from VIP, but they just tanked at the end. Pinnacle is licensed there as well.

    The only thing I really feel about all this negative talk about brokerages is that it seems to be generated by a few posters who rarely post. I really think brokerages are one of the most interesting things that have happened in the sports gambling world in a long time, I will definitely watch to see how this plays out with acbet ,but brokerages are a fascinating concept for wagering.
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    I was thinking of trying them but I always had question marks in my head about reliability. But if Sawyer says he is happy with them, they are defo worth a try.

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    So, does anyone know the name of the brokers in Aus?
    Also, I would be keen to get a definitive list of all the brokerages available.

    To date I know of..
    Samvo
    Premium Tradings
    Asianconnect
    BetButler
    123Soccerbrokers
    Bet7-Sports

    Any help much appreciated

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    Anyone know the brokerage in Australia?

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