[dwightf23]

Hey guys i'm located in the U.S and i wanted to know what is the best way to get a UK paypal or moneybookers account if anyone know where I can maybe rent one or maybe work something out i'm desperate right about now thanks in advance

[bettorjon]

what for? why dont you just get it yourself? its not that hard

[dwightf23]

I need one to use on BetFair because they do not allow US members

[Hareeba!]

I need one to use on BetFair because they do not allow US members

Neither Moneybookers nor Paypal will allow US residents to fund gambling entities

[dwightf23]

I know that why you think I am on here asking for help

[Hareeba!]

I know that why you think I am on here asking for help

ok, sorry
but it seems what you should be asking is how to establish a residential address outside of the US ?
and there's another very recent thread discussing that issue in this forum

[dwightf23]

An address is not the problem I will need a bank account to verify the paypal account are you in the UK?

[Ruifgalmeida]

And you couldnt acess your acounts via US Ip , so the only solution live in Canada

[thespeculator]

i think you would have to move physically, not just open an account with another address and then place your action from the u.s , betfair won't allow it and neither will moneybookers allow you to transfer from a computer in the u.s. I don't know that much about computer's so maybe there are ways to use other networks

[dwightf23]

IP address is not a problem either I can use a VPN or socks so that my ip will be in the UK

[Carloschihuahua]

I don't know if this helps, but the verification* in moneybookers can be done in three different ways. One is through uploading funds via a bank account, which has to be in the same name as yours, the second is to have a letter sent to your address with a code that you fill in on the website. The third is uploading funds via a CC that has to be issued in the country of where your supposed address would be.

I put a * next to the verification because that kind of verification only raises your limit of transactions from around €1000 to €5000 in any ninety day period.

But they also carry out random security checks where you have to send in a picture of your passport and proof of address (gas bill, bank statement etc).

[dwightf23]

Thanks Carloschihuahua I can get moneybookers verified two ways out of the choices that you listed which will be the address verification or uploading funds with a virtual cc but my next problem will be depositing and withdrawing from the account I would still need some help from someone in the UK

[kilmerAsHolliday]

You also have to pass BF KYC process. If they find you are breaking their rules they'll take your balance and not return it.

[dwightf23]

whats there kyc process?

[goombah]

I don't know if this helps, but the verification* in moneybookers can be done in three different ways. One is through uploading funds via a bank account, which has to be in the same name as yours, the second is to have a letter sent to your address with a code that you fill in on the website. The third is uploading funds via a CC that has to be issued in the country of where your supposed address would be.

I put a * next to the verification because that kind of verification only raises your limit of transactions from around €1000 to €5000 in any ninety day period.

But they also carry out random security checks where you have to send in a picture of your passport and proof of address (gas bill, bank statement etc).

My Moneybookers account is currently frozen. For their address verification, they are requiring a utility bill or a bank statement mailed to your address.

[dwightf23]

A bill can easily be photo shopped I know people that can get that done for me

[bracerman]

Best way to do it is ask a friend in a MB/NT friendly country to set you up with a bank acct or CC in their name.

[dwightf23]

I aint got no friends over sea's

[biff]

does paypal allow non-US citizens to use paypal for gambling? i thought they are just against it, no matter what your location.

[NotSoBad]

Go to Mexico.

[zebras99]

does paypal allow non-US citizens to use paypal for gambling? i thought they are just against it, no matter what your location.

It allows gambling for UK customers.

[Hareeba!]

A bill can easily be photo shopped I know people that can get that done for me

if you're caught you could be had for fraud and risk losing your funds and never able to play at those books again

[dwightf23]

Which one of you guys are from the UK?

[jairocon]

Seriously - you're asking here publicly how to scam?

[Carloschihuahua]

I think your biggest problem would be if they decide to make a security check on you, as you will need to send them a picture of your passport, and photoshopping a passport is both very hard and illegal.

[biff]

It allows gambling for UK customers.

well i'll be damned. always though paypal had a stick up their ass but it turns out this is only the case for US customers.

[dwightf23]

How am I scamming? who am I taking money from? I am using my own hard owned money

[eleuropeano]

I'm in europe and I have a lot of frieds who want to use betfair, but they can't. anyway you twist it, you always run some risk to lock your money is some catch 22 somewhere...

[eleuropeano]

*friends in the US i mean.

[mminkovski]

You can't use any of these methods.

[dwightf23]

What method can I use there must be a way?

[dwightf23]

Can everyone on here do me a favor if you ever hear anyone that you know talk or mention 5Linx cant you send me a msg thanks in advance.