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    ericmangin
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    Taking Down Sports Too?

    Will A+ Books be Affected at all by these new online gaming legislations?

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    No idea.

    Did any of the affected poker sites use Gold--Pay by the way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericmangin View Post
    Will A+ Books be Affected at all by these new online gaming legislations?
    the genuine A+ books aren't affected as they don't have US customers

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    other books like The Greek and 5 dimes will have a real headache over this,

    might decide to cut all links to the us

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    by the looks of the situation, it might be next. what should we players do to protect our bankroll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeanite View Post
    by the looks of the situation, it might be next. what should we players do to protect our bankroll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    the genuine A+ books aren't affected as they don't have US customers



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    I just had a highly rated book process a deposit. Business as usual.

    The poker sites got brought down because a former employee that had intimate knowledge of the processors and bank accounts was working with the feds. There are deposit methods that the feds can never touch. Those will always be available. Books may tighten up and limit the number of deposit/withdrawal methods but to think they will all pull out of the US market is ludicrous.

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    Naw, i mean what do u think is going to happen when u buy banks in the US to process payouts which these guys did. Its probably better they did this cause look at the scheme with UB and AB come on, and thats only all the stuff they found out just think what they didn't find out. I think sports will be fine, if they do decide to mess around i will be forced to move out of here.

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    pokerstars got too big for itself. tv shows, advertising, they were out there!

    you'll never see betjamaica jackets or the greek commercials.

    the government can't touch these books cause there is no way to regulate and spirro and scotty johnson are actually too smart for that.

    we might have to deal with payout restrictions or a possible delay but our money is always safe at bj or the greek. always!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericmangin View Post
    pokerstars got too big for itself. tv shows, advertising, they were out there!

    you'll never see betjamaica jackets or the greek commercials.

    the government can't touch these books cause there is no way to regulate and spirro and scotty johnson are actually too smart for that.

    we might have to deal with payout restrictions or a possible delay but our money is always safe at bj or the greek. always!

    yeah i agree. I always wondered how pokerstars was advertising itself like it was on tv and everywhere else like they were untouchable.

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    Stick with taking a trip to Walmart or the grocery store and you'll be fine.

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    They plled out of US market because they are PLC.. betjamaica, the greek and 5dimes aren't..

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    Greed kills everything. Who do you think gave that anonymous tip came from on the Australian who snaked a reported $100m from PS and FTP was visiting Vegas? I bet it's hard to not say anything when you're getting taken for millions, but when you know you're in the wrong and the only person capable of destroying your empire gets snitched on, what do you expect? These companies were making billions off of poker. FTP and PS knew what they were doing was illegal in regards to processing payments within the US. If these two sites were able to pay off banks and processors, what's not to say that they didn't bribe gaming officals in which they were regulated knowing that they possibly could have been running a rigged game? That's a whole other debate though, but certainly something to consider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericmangin View Post
    Will A+ Books be Affected at all by these new online gaming legislations?
    there are no new gaming legislations..

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    Just like Mtneer said... stick with western and moneyg and you are set. The books that would rely on cc's and e chek would be the ones possibly affected by what happened.

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    Its already gotten tougher to make deposits. ** and ** seem to call out more people then ever. I feel that gaming will become so hard that people will get frustrated and turn away. That more then anything will kill the big A+ books that operate in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    the genuine A+ books aren't affected as they don't have US customers
    which books are you referring to?

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    he is referring to books like pinny, betfair etc.

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    There are some very important, key differences between the major poker sites that got into trouble and respected offshore sportsbooks. Simply saying "the gov't went after poker, so sportsbooks are next" may seem logical, but if you take the time to learn about the details of the poker situation (try the 2+2 legislation forum), you'll realize it's not nearly as likely as you may have first thought.

    In general, the sportsbooks have done a better job than the poker sites of maintaining a buffer between the country(s) in which they actually operate and the US (banks, funds, owners, mainstream advertising, etc.)

    Anything is possible, I don't claim that there's zero chance any sportsbook well eventually face a similar problem, but I firmly believe that the poker indictments in no way signal that the sky is falling for offshore sportsbooks and the end is near. More likely, some books may face temporary processor issues or fewer deposit/withdrawal options, but that's been happening off and on for several years, and they tend to eventually get worked out.
    Last edited by John Dough; 04-24-11 at 07:50 AM.

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    Sportsbook dont move as much money as Poker , so they are safe for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericmangin View Post
    Will A+ Books be Affected at all by these new online gaming legislations?
    can you define "these new online gaming legislations", I'm not sure what you are referring to.

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    Sports betting will continue

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    Quote Originally Posted by alalha View Post
    Sports betting will continue
    I sure hope so, i will move before i stop to lucrative.

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    Poker bluffed and lost. Sports betting played it smarter with a low profile. Staying under the radar is the way to deal with the US government.

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    Sportsbooks not going away. Will just be challenging depositing/withdrawing for US players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    Sportsbooks not going away. Will just be challenging depositing/withdrawing for US players.
    Everything should be back to normal soon, i think what ever happened from this already happened in January when they got those processors.

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    I really dont think books will be affected!

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    Hopefully by the time that sportsbooks would be targeted, there will already be some new legislation that defuses this matter.

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    As someone else posted, there is no new legislation. Don't believe everything you read.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeFall View Post
    can you define "these new online gaming legislations", I'm not sure what you are referring to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barcelonafc View Post
    other books like The Greek and 5 dimes will have a real headache over this,

    might decide to cut all links to the us
    5dimes isn't taking cking acct payments anymore.

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    Hope we see some restrictions on account deposits and withdrawals, maybe $800 minimum on each, these small deposits and constant deposits and withdrawals can't help.

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    Most of this thread is wishful thinking, pretty much worthless.

    Hate to say it but prospects are bleak for US players. Expect more shadiness and less reliability from offshore books.

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    i will be preying the sportsbooks dodge a bullet and not take us players out of there market cuz if they doi will be proxying my ip adress as i live in costa rica

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    Quote Originally Posted by philswin View Post
    Hope we see some restrictions on account deposits and withdrawals, maybe $800 minimum on each, these small deposits and constant deposits and withdrawals can't help.
    Not true. The average scalper "churns" (deps and wd's) way more than those picking sides... it takes more money and transactions, esp if they are bonus whoring.
    Last edited by scott235; 04-26-11 at 02:27 PM.

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