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    Quote Originally Posted by stevex View Post
    And you coming in here CONSTANTLY and bitching about "some guy named powers," is going to get you where in life?

    Really? Think about it....move on
    Until Alex Powers changes his ways and stops being a dirty crooked thief, Im going to make sure in every single EZstreet thread that people know not to send this guy 1 cent...If you have a problem with it, here's an idea...Dont read the fckn thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    As EasyStreetSports has no right to the money it kept, its conduct constitutes theft.
    Will SBR sue Easy if they refuse to pay the player?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp123 View Post
    i dont care if he made 500 chargebacks because in this case he didnt and he did nothing wrong . i hate that shit they sportsbooks that is , that just take and take and when its time to give they just make up shit not to pay ....justin did a very good job on this i am impressed !!!
    Im actually very impressed my Justin's work in this too. I just wish there was some recourse that could be done in Costa Rica against this criminal

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    Haha hey pokerplayer if you wanna go ahead and waste your life typing "dirt" on some guy from some sportsbook in Costa Rica that's your call....

    Have fun buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevex View Post
    Haha hey pokerplayer if you wanna go ahead and waste your life typing "dirt" on some guy from some sportsbook in Costa Rica that's your call....

    Have fun buddy.
    I'll have a blast...Thanks for the encouragement

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    Justin is a pawn in the game he cant and wont do shit for the players..

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    Quote Originally Posted by brumbies View Post
    Will SBR sue Easy if they refuse to pay the player?
    Unfortunately, I dont think they can.

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    Such a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevex View Post
    pokerplayer, get a life dude

    You can do that....right?
    Lolll its all what EZ find to say..

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevex View Post
    Such a joke.

    YOU are a big joke dude

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    guys like stevex and sharpcat and a few more are so pro easy it makes you think that they are shills for powers and are so one sided siding with the book its almost disturbing . In this case the BOOK WAS WRONG AND ITS EASY TO SEE IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp123 View Post
    guys like stevex and sharpcat and a few more are so pro easy it makes you think that they are shills for powers and are so one sided siding with the book its almost disturbing . In this case the BOOK WAS WRONG AND ITS EASY TO SEE IMO

    Agreed...But ive seen a few posters in here elude to the fact that Stevex might actualy be Alex Powers. It would make sense because Im sure Alex Powers (with all the players he's stolen from over the years) could never show his real name in a public forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerplayer22 View Post
    Agreed...But ive seen a few posters in here elude to the fact that Stevex might actualy be Alex Powers. It would make sense because Im sure Alex Powers (with all the players he's stolen from over the years) could never show his real name in a public forum.

    One day someone will find him and give him what he deserve. Its all about karma.

    anyway. This decision will cost him more than 46k in customer lost and long term reputation. Like i said in a previous post. Its just marketing 101. same if the guys cheat. give him the money. you will make more after.

    Just me. I was opening an account on their site the first time i see a thread about this story. Of course I sopped my subscribtion. But me, it was just for 500$. How many big punter will read only one thread about this story and change of mind about their new book. With all the book around the web. you dont need to read 2 story like this one for just go see away IMO.

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    EZ has sealed their fate with this fiasco.They will be no more than an Oddsmaker type book throwing out rediculous bonuses on $100 deposits and hoping to reel in the occasional fish.All these fly by night stiff jobs have one thing in common,they all offer big bonuses and don't offer B2B transfers.Buyer beware these days,take the time to do your own research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerplayer22 View Post
    Agreed...But ive seen a few posters in here elude to the fact that Stevex might actualy be Alex Powers. It would make sense because Im sure Alex Powers (with all the players he's stolen from over the years) could never show his real name in a public forum.

    imo these guys are mainly defending the book because they dont want the obvious to be true. They probably each have 4 figure+ balances there and are hoping this book doesnt crash because then they will lose their money too... this is my best guess as I have caught myself defending a book that had some obvious negatives when I had a balance there myself.

    just my opinion...

    -stash

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    Has the other forum being referred to in this thread made similar controversial decisions on books sponsoring them in the past? Is there a previous precedent? Interesting to see the differing views among the two different arbitrators.

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    This book will gladly take your casino action, until they lose big. Then they take your money.
    This book will discuss the matter at length with SBR, until they lose. Then they close the door to SBR.

    It's the same mentality, expressed in different situations. In both cases, they're into the appearance of honesty and legality, but only for as long as it serves their purpose. As soon as it doesn't, they'll immediately switch.

    Alex Powers, if you read this, keep it up bud. Just a matter of time before you f*ck with the wrong guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    imo these guys are mainly defending the book because they dont want the obvious to be true. They probably each have 4 figure+ balances there and are hoping this book doesnt crash because then they will lose their money too... this is my best guess as I have caught myself defending a book that had some obvious negatives when I had a balance there myself.

    just my opinion...

    -stash
    I never think about that. but thats look logical.

    Or theyre simply working for them. But these guys are posting in the somme cappers thread sometime. so i guess youre more right. big balance with EZ doent wanna see the site crash

    still fking big moron

    BIN BANG

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    I see that when EasyStreet became an RX sponsor, a thread was started on that book.
    In the 1st 23 posts, there are 3 posts by Fishhead shilling for that book.

    A later shilling post of his in that thread:

    Fishhead - "1. Fantastic bonuses

    2. Good lines
    3. Nice website
    4. Customer service
    5. Wilheim endorsed".

    "Nice website." That's great, Fishhead.

    "Customer service". Whoopee, they have customer service.

    and the classic:

    "Wilheim endorsed".

    The man who is still defending them and taking their advertising money after this blatant theft.
    Last edited by Scooter; 03-26-11 at 08:21 AM.

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    Great job Justin!!!

    This scam group needs to be made example of. Only "f" will do. Karma will get them in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brumbies View Post
    Will SBR sue Easy if they refuse to pay the player?
    No. SBR would have no standing. We were not stiffed.

    The player could sue EZ and possibly name The Rx as well. But it would cost at least $20k to prepare & file the case. Easystreet would likely lay down so all the player would get would be the EZ domain name and a big legal bill. Not worth it unless the player has some cash and time to burn.

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    That takes alot of nerve for EZ to request a polygraph test. If this kid went down to CR he probably would be killed by those thugs. Pay the player.

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    Lots of Wil bashing in here.
    The guy is one of the most stand up people in the business.
    I've known him for six years, the guy is gold.
    He got refunds for most that got stiffed by BoS years ago.
    Wil goes to bat for players with disputes and gets his hands dirty frequently.

    Back off of Wil

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    Justin, this is the only part I don't get. Good work as always, but where is the F?

    EasyStreet Sports C+ www.easystreetsports.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    No. SBR would have no standing. We were not stiffed.

    The player could sue EZ and possibly name The Rx as well. But it would cost at least $20k to prepare & file the case. Easystreet would likely lay down so all the player would get would be the EZ domain name and a big legal bill. Not worth it unless the player has some cash and time to burn.
    SBR_John - Couldn't the player land a CR lawyer to take it on contingency? 1/3 = 15k for the lawyer, provided they do have any assets.

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    Was gonna deposit a dime here for baseball.....Not any more

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    Do you guys know that you are defending a lying, charge back scam artist, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Do you guys know that you are defending a lying, charge back scam artist, right?
    The decision is been made ,not on the grounds whether Corry1111 is the model citizen or not . The way it should be !
    GL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Do you guys know that you are defending a lying, charge back scam artist, right?
    Do you know you are defending a scam book that refuses to pay a winner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    Do you know you are defending a scam book that refuses to pay a winner?

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    I got no dog in this fight, this is scammer v. scammer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I got no dog in this fight, this is scammer v. scammer.
    If the book knew he was a scammer, why didnt they refused to take his money in the first place?

    Why did they waited until he did a payout?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Do you guys know that you are defending a lying, charge back scam artist, right?
    Cory may have scammed 31,438 books in the past but in this case, all of his deposits were made with cash (no chance at a **********) EZ soaked up every losing deposit and kept their mouths closed. EZ pocketed every dollar that both Cory and every other player lost in their casino....Then Cory gets lucky and makes a nice score. EZ now doesnt pay??? You cant be serious that you are siding with the book (especially a book that is run by a known scammer himself)???

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I got no dog in this fight, this is scammer v. scammer.
    Correct...but in this particular case, the book 100% needs to pay.

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    Interesting post from Wil over there at the arr ex


    FYI on one royal Cory1111 was dealt K-Q-J-10 of spades and another off suit king. Whatever was playing the hand broke up the kings and drew to the four card royal and hit the ace of spades for a profit of $19,750 then promptly moved on to the next hand in 3.8 seconds. In all - the three Royals were left visible on the screen for a total of 12.3 seconds combined which was one of the key pieces of evidence that the game was being played by a bot which treats a royal like a pair of jacks as far as dwelling on it.

    Think about how any of you guys would react to a $20K winner risking $25 bucks. Human nature is to admire the hand for a bit of time at least, most people would jump for joy, call their wife or friend over and above all things make a screen shot. Had he made screen shots I don't believe Ez St would have a case because that would mean he stopped the game for however much time it takes to make the shots.

    Not to mention the machine has to add 4000 credits to the credits available total. I know computers are fast but we are still looking at least 1 second for that process to happen.

    Ez St Tech Support did some research for me and checked on a good sized number of other players at Ez St who play the same game themselves and not a single regular (that is all they checked, no one timers) came anywhere close to 17.4 hands per minute. Most average less than ten per minute. Only Cory1111 had a number like that.

    More amazing is the concentration it takes to sit at a machine for 5 hours and 26 minutes strait and play 5848 hands in that time to maintain that 17.4 per minute average all the while playing excellent if not perfect strategy.

    In all seriousness I have a hard time watching TV for five hours and 26 minutes straight without stopping to use the bathroom, grab a soda or a sandwich etc never mind use total concentration playing poker for 5 plus hours without stopping. In order to do anything except play he had to play nonstop without even a bathroom break for the entire session. There no gaps large enough for a human to even stand up and stretch their legs for a bit between the entire 5000 plus hands never mind go to the bathroom.

    Some of mention there are different times mostly in split seconds or up to 2 or 3 seconds in some cases. No gaps long enough to do anything other than stay seated for the next hand are apparent during the entire session. It's very possible the bot has to compute what cards to discard on certain hands to maintain the desired programmed strategy. I am only talking a second or two but it is a feasible theory.

    There is no question that poker bots do exist (read 2+2 forum) so I don't see why one has to be ruled out of the question here.

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