[Hall2Collie]

agreed

but English players are still generally overrated and overvalued (not necessarily Rooney)...

Yeah they are and he is

It's hard to understand unless you live in England. The Media rallies around a kid from a very young age and builds him up to an impossible level

[The Special One]

And if neither score, Hernandez will, eh, tough life being a United hater.

yes it is... better not to hate them then...

[RedDevil11]

50 million pounds. In this market, absolutely. Though he tends to get injured a lot.

Andy Carroll is English. Add 10/15 mill onto English players. I don't know why though.

Right now. Before he scored those 2 goals vs Villa, i would have said 15-18 mill. Rooney hasn't been that great for some reason. And what is quite annoying is United have been able to still win. Berbatov seems to have picked up where Rooney hasn't. I swear this team gets so much luck.

Ace, are you having a laugh? £15-18M for Rooney and you think Torres is worth £50?? And so if there is a £10/15M premium on English players you're really valuing Rooney at around £3M? I'm just saying there is no way Rooney would be valued at anything less than £50M even if he's not scoring like the last few seasons. ((There is no way he is worth less than Bent or Carroll). Anyone who watches United knows he brings more than just goals...Berbatov wouldn't have as many as he has right now if it weren't for Rooney's assists (which he leads the league). His backtracking and work rate is second to none and he still commands so much respect from defenders that his presence alone opens up spaces for others. When Ronaldo was there, we didn't need his goals either but he definitely brought these other qualities that made him so valuable to the club's success and no one was complaining then and he would have been easily valued at atleast £35-40M then.

[Ace_of_Spades]

Yeah, my estimation on Rooney is probably not the correct figure, but he hasn't been that Rooney we know. I don't know what his current value would be.

[hitman09]

To me I think Carroll worth 30 millions cause he has the potential to be a very good player, to be a star as I have seen he is strong on both feet and he is height and strong like Drogba, but the most thing push his price up high cause he's very young and he is English.

[JOHON8]

Yeah, my estimation on Rooney is probably not the correct figure, but he hasn't been that Rooney we know. I don't know what his current value would be.

People are criticizing him because he isn't 'perfect'.

He is scoring goals, assisting and winning games for United this season. Last season he was by far the best EPL player of the year and one of the best on earth. He was so over worked that year that he failed to perform well in the WC during the summer. Now he comes back after all that crap and he's still getting results. United know this better than anyone which is why they agreed to keep him with the record fee.

Don't believe all the hype that Rooney isn't performing well, he casually scored 2 goals in the game vs Birmingham 2 days ago, and he's still struggling to get his 'perfect' form back.

[Glada Tartan]

Im on Torres to score

[tankman777]

david luiz will not play this game

[Daveyboy]

Im staying away from this one because Liverpool are playing with passion and Chelsea dont. Technically and tactically Chelsea are better, but there are better odds elsewhere to take a risk than this one.

[RbN]

Both teams play awfull football, well oke...Liverpool a bit more awfull LOL, kick and fcuking rush, pitty on the english football fans. But what can u expect with midfielders like Mikel, Essien lmao

[Bartmeister]

Liverpool bad record away. I like Chelsea!

[swiss88]

Im staying away from this one because Liverpool are playing with passion and Chelsea dont. Technically and tactically Chelsea are better, but there are better odds elsewhere to take a risk than this one.

Well a few weeks ago I agree you could say Chelsea didn't play with much passion, but in their last few games they really played well as a team and looked motivated, their last win at Sunderland being a good example of that.
However, I agree with you about the upcoming match, I'll stay away and just enjoy the game as there are too many unknowns.

[RbN]

Well a few weeks ago I agree you could say Chelsea didn't play with much passion, but in their last few games they really played well as a team and looked motivated, their last win at Sunderland being a good example of that. However, I agree with you about the upcoming match, I'll stay away and just enjoy the game as there are too many unknowns.

U actually can enjoy a Chelsea or Liverpool game? Havent seen much worser football last years...

[blackf1re]

That is bollocks. At Sunderland they played as well as I have ever seen them this season and even the home fans admitted that Chelsea's attacking display was a joy to watch.

Their starting XI is clearly the best in the country for me (although Man Utd probably have the better squad) and now that they have picked up form and confidence again I can't really see past a home win.

[swiss88]

U actually can enjoy a Chelsea or Liverpool game? Havent seen much worser football last years...

Yep Chelsea vs Liverpool is still a big game in England, hell if I was looking for quality football I'd be watching Barcelona every week and only Barca, but you know I like football..
Well if you can't like Torres playing against his former team, Liverpool being able to offer something else with Suarez and Carroll, Chelsea playing better the last few games, then I can't help you especially with comments like this: "Both teams play awfull football, well oke...Liverpool a bit more awfull LOL, kick and fcuking rush, pitty on the english football fans. But what can u expect with midfielders like Mikel, Essien lmao"

[FindTheLock]

with suarez this could be interesting. I like the over the best.

[i_pick_winners1]

We love you suarez
better than torres
you came from ajax
to liverpool
you're continental
you're ******* mental


please don't take our luis away!