1. 06-17-10 10:51 AM #1
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    Argentina will dismantle Greece 6/22

    Argentina will roll over Greece , 2 units on Argentina -1 (+122) Greece can't score and after watching Nigera play against this defense down a man, I'm liking a 2-0 or 3-0 Argentina win.

    Anyone disagree and why.

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  2. 06-17-10 10:55 AM #2
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    yeah, thats great odds on the -1. should be max stakes on that play.
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  3. 06-17-10 10:58 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonbruins View Post
    Argentina will roll over Greece , 2 units on Argentina -1 (+122) Greece can't score and after watching Nigera play against this defense down a man, I'm liking a 2-0 or 3-0 Argentina win.

    Anyone disagree and why.

    -1.0 sounds great . Do you realize that Argentina doesn't care if they win or lose next game . They are in to final 16 . I bet them big today against Korea on AH and made over $3600.
    I can't see them drawing against Greeks . But do not go crazy on your bet .
    Argentina with 6 points can just chose whom they wanna play next round .

    GL.
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  4. 06-17-10 10:59 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitalyo View Post
    -1.0 sounds great . Do you realize that Argentina doesn't care if they win or lose next game . They are in to final 16 . I bet them big today against Korea on AH and made over $3600.
    I can't see them drawing against Greeks . But do not go crazy on your bet .
    Argentina with 6 points can just chose whom they wanna play next round .

    GL.

    Good point.
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  5. 06-17-10 11:01 AM #5
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    chances are argentina will field their reserves here. still decent players, but i doubt if for example messi will play.
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  6. 06-17-10 11:01 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitalyo View Post
    Argentina with 6 points can just chose whom they wanna play next round .
    Spot on
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  7. 06-17-10 11:02 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitalyo View Post
    -1.0 sounds great . Do you realize that Argentina doesn't care if they win or lose next game . They are in to final 16 . I bet them big today against Korea on AH and made over $3600.
    I can't see them drawing against Greeks . But do not go crazy on your bet .
    Argentina with 6 points can just chose whom they wanna play next round .

    GL.
    +1 for bringing this to light
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  8. 06-17-10 11:06 AM #8
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    Yes Argentina can trash Greece easily.

    Only problem is that Argentina has pretty much secured first place with the two wins.

    In order for Argentina to lose first place Greece has to beat them by 5 or more goals.

    Argentina can lose this game by few games and still keep first place.

    I still think Argentina can win this but in soccer teams usually don't try if they don't have to. So, I wouldn't risk anything big on the big spreads.

    You should look into betting Korea to dismantle Nigeria instead...that will be +EV
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  9. 06-17-10 11:20 AM #9
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    Yeah we already cleared that up buddy, but thanks for repeating, doesn't hurt to say it twice
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  10. 06-17-10 12:58 PM #10
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    Yea I said 2 units guys , not putting the house on it but I like the line alot and it will drop.


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  11. 06-17-10 02:02 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by SRBI View Post
    Yeah we already cleared that up buddy, but thanks for repeating, doesn't hurt to say it twice
    When i started typing there was no responses in the thread. I was eating breakfast and typing and I got up from the computer...by the time i finished and posted the msg, few other ppl have already responded.
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  12. 06-17-10 02:14 PM #12
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    Argentina would probably play their reserves and would hold possession for the match. I would not bet Argentina -1.

    Argentina would also won't mind Greece advancing as they would give a harder game to Uruguay or France in next round than South Korea. I can't see any value betting in this game. You have a talented unmotivated team playing a highly motivated team with nothing to lose.

    Maybe playing Greece to score is the +EV play in this match depending on the odds.
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  13. 06-17-10 02:36 PM #13
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    Argentina's second team is better than most teams first, its likely Aguerro, Millito, Pastore, Palermo will play and be looking to prove themselves as the starters have been playing so well.

    The main focus will be on the defesive side, they will try to improve the defending after the terrible mistakes in the last games.

    Anyway, as long as Argentina finish the group first I don't care what they do.
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  14. 06-17-10 05:25 PM #14
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    Maradona wants to win every game
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  15. 06-17-10 05:35 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by cro View Post
    Maradona wants to win every game
    Totally agree. Someone else wouldn't care if they win this, but not him.
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  16. 06-17-10 05:53 PM #16
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    Maradona is no rocket scientist...and any of you could coach Argentina with the talent they put on the pitch. With that said, he's not going to risk his stars or guys on cards for no reason if he doesn't have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Sanchez View Post
    Maradona is no rocket scientist...and any of you could coach Argentina with the talent they put on the pitch. With that said, he's not going to risk his stars or guys on cards for no reason if he doesn't have to.
    Its harder to manage a team of stars than an ordinary team, you need a strong man like Maradona who is an even bigger star, personality and ego than all his players put together. Maradona is one of the few men who could keep such a talented group of players together, when it comes to team spirit, motivation, man management and getting the team cohesive he has done a great job. He has created an "us vs them" mentality with his outrageous comments against the media, similar to what managers like Mourinho and Alex Ferguson, it takes pressure off the team and puts it on him and fires them up to prove the doubters wrong.
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  18. 06-17-10 06:22 PM #18
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    I bet Greece to advance so I hope you're wrong and I get a draw out of the game...if Greece draws they will advance right??
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  19. 06-17-10 06:26 PM #19
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    Word is that Mardona is only in it for the money. They definitely have a team that could make more noise then those stupid vuvuzelas, but coaching is a huge aspect in football just take a look at France. Again, those are rumors that I heard so don't start bashing me saying thats it not true just a rumor that I heard of.
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  20. 06-17-10 06:38 PM #20
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    Arge i think will win comfortably even with their reserves. Watch for Aguero to go crazy.
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  21. 06-17-10 06:54 PM #21
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    gonna pound this line hard
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  22. 06-22-10 09:05 AM #22
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    At -106 now, lets get this.
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  23. 06-22-10 11:36 AM #23
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    why not take under 3 then
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  24. 06-22-10 11:47 AM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karayilan9 View Post
    Its harder to manage a team of stars than an ordinary team, you need a strong man like Maradona who is an even bigger star, personality and ego than all his players put together. Maradona is one of the few men who could keep such a talented group of players together, when it comes to team spirit, motivation, man management and getting the team cohesive he has done a great job. He has created an "us vs them" mentality with his outrageous comments against the media, similar to what managers like Mourinho and Alex Ferguson, it takes pressure off the team and puts it on him and fires them up to prove the doubters wrong.
    Great Points Kara, i still think that Maradona can be outmatched by a better coach and hasnt face a good enough team with a better coach combination (Ex: Brazil, Germany) that would be the true trial of fire for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmolition View Post
    Great Points Kara, i still think that Maradona can be outmatched by a better coach and hasnt face a good enough team with a better coach combination (Ex: Brazil, Germany) that would be the true trial of fire for them.
    Maradona is not as stupid as his critics make out, he has a team of good tacticians helping with that side of the game. His WC 86 winning manager Bilardo is general manager and the two have had good relations since Maradona was a youth.

    The other key part of managing, motivation, moral, team spirit and getting the best out of players is what Maradona will be great at. He is the boss of that team and everybody respects him as the boss and will do anything for the great one.
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    Greece with ultra-defensive line up:

    GK Tzorvas

    RB Vyntra
    LB Torosidis
    CB Kyrgiakos
    CB Papadopoulos
    CB Papastathopoulos
    LBR Moras

    MF Tziolis
    MF Karagounis
    MF Katsouranis

    F Samaras

    This is a 6-3-1 system. Two stoppers and one sweeper and one guy to play Messi man to man. The other two on defense are wings. Then there is another 2 holding midfielders and one forward.

    Greece will be playing for the draw hoping Nigeria can beat South Korea.
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  27. 06-22-10 12:27 PM #27
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    Argentina reserves will want to impress to get in starting 11 , and many scouts recruiting for clubs .

    total mismatch , expect 2-0 or 3-0 .
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  28. 06-22-10 12:33 PM #28
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    Okay guys I have a big feeling about these matches at 2:30 e.t. Parlay Argentina ML + South Korea ML and cash this baby.
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  29. 06-22-10 01:02 PM #29
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    over -2.5 looks good.
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  30. 06-22-10 01:24 PM #30
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    Took the Argentina -1 line . Owned these Greeks
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  31. 06-22-10 03:20 PM #31
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  32. 06-22-10 03:21 PM #32
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    -1 cashed baby!

    Had to sweat it out in the 2nd half though.
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  33. 06-22-10 08:56 PM #33
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    wow they are winning the whole thing
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  34. 06-23-10 12:07 AM #34
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    Solid performance by Argentina, what can you do Greece is broke.
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