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    Only 2 draws at Euro 2020

    Out of 18 games. Most lopsided favorite only tournament in quite some time. Too many teams involved. The gap is too big. On top of that all the traditional powerful teams playing at home every game.

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    Teams are playing actual home games in this Euro. You can't compare to past neutral games. That's why you don't see draws.

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    Fukking Uefa. They should have pulled the plug on multiple countries hosting the tournament instead shifting it a year with the pandemic going on.

    This shit is just an extension of the qualifiers. Hope it's a one time only thing. Can't wait for Qatar 2022.

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    Czech Republic +¼+101
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    Another reason for no draws..bad goalkeeping:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1404985296505147394

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    Terrible tourney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Out of 18 games. Most lopsided favorite only tournament in quite some time. Too many teams involved. The gap is too big. On top of that all the traditional powerful teams playing at home every game.
    Fair comments, Laker. Per usual, you're on top of it.

    1) Yes. Big teams playing at home = set-up to push the big teams thru.
    2) I liked the tournaments where a team like Poland or Ukraine was hosting. Then, those teams had a fighting chance to advance.
    3) Yes, going to 24 Euro teams is too much. The underbelly is too soft. Some European nations (like Iceland) have a super-low population. Try fielding a team w/ population < 2Mill.
    4) 16 advancing out of 24 is lame. Group play is supposed to be 2 out of 4 advance. Bitter battles where teams are fighting for every point.
    5) Advancing from 3rd-place in group is weak. Some teams already had a foot into the k/o stage. And some could advance w/ ONLY 3 POINTS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Another reason for no draws..bad goalkeeping:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1404985296505147394
    Didn't know Haiti and Canada were in Euro 2020...

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    Out of 18 games just how many of them would you have expected to be a draw?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Fair comments, Laker. Per usual, you're on top of it.

    1) Yes. Big teams playing at home = set-up to push the big teams thru.
    2) I liked the tournaments where a team like Poland or Ukraine was hosting. Then, those teams had a fighting chance to advance.
    3) Yes, going to 24 Euro teams is too much. The underbelly is too soft. Some European nations (like Iceland) have a super-low population. Try fielding a team w/ population < 2Mill.
    4) 16 advancing out of 24 is lame. Group play is supposed to be 2 out of 4 advance. Bitter battles where teams are fighting for every point.
    5) Advancing from 3rd-place in group is weak. Some teams already had a foot into the k/o stage. And some could advance w/ ONLY 3 POINTS!
    Exactly my sentiment. They are trying to make this the world cup but the weaker teams aren't up to snuff. The world cup when it goes to 48 in north America in 2026 will be a huge problem for competitiveness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Out of 18 games just how many of them would you have expected to be a draw?

    5..

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    hard to win these days, all favs hitting

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Out of 18 games just how many of them would you have expected to be a draw?

    Based on the odds per match I think 6 would have been fair.

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    I am glad, we all hate draws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    5..
    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post

    Based on the odds per match I think 6 would have been fair.

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    Who wants draws...

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Who wants draws...
    They pay+250-+300. Who wants-250 chalk to win every game?
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    Draws in the World Cup is the big moneymaker. It's an anomaly this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Another reason for no draws..bad goalkeeping:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1404985296505147394

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    1 draw on friday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Another reason for no draws..bad goalkeeping:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1404985296505147394

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">GOAL ����<br><br>Oh no. ��<br><br>One of the worst concessions in goalkeeping history, and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CanMNT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >#CanMNT</a> take a 1-0 lead over Haiti <br><br>�� <a href="https://t.co/hishXepRT3">https://t.co/hishXepRT3</a> <a href="https://t.co/QbF3CFwdyd">pic.twitter.com/QbF3CFwdyd</a></p>&mdash; OneSoccer (@onesoccer) <a href="https://twitter.com/onesoccer/status/1404985296505147394?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >June 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    1 draw on friday
    Based on the odds the first two games should be good draw options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Based on the odds the first two games should be good draw options.
    love btts sweden game plus odds

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    You would think teams would like draws being that 4/6 3rd place teams go on. Might be some obvious draw scenarios coming in game 3

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    Laker, monitor it. Could be some draws in upcoming games.

    My take on FRI games:
    *Either of the 1st two games could easily draw. SWE not too good, and this Croatia team is not close to past editions. Modric is too old, and no Mandzukic (who always used to score).
    *3rd game, people will build it up b/c it's contest btw two UK teams that don't play too often. Just based on personnel, ENG should win easily. I might even play it on Betpts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Laker, monitor it. Could be some draws in upcoming games.

    My take on FRI games:
    *Either of the 1st two games could easily draw. SWE not too good, and this Croatia team is not close to past editions. Modric is too old, and no Mandzukic (who always used to score).
    *3rd game, people will build it up b/c it's contest btw two UK teams that don't play too often. Just based on personnel, ENG should win easily. I might even play it on Betpts.
    Croatia is awful. I would not be surprised if they lost. They will try to come out somewhat here but they will be careful knowing they can beat the Scots so with a draw here they get through.

    Sweden is Sweden. They really never change. They always struggle to score. Slovakia imo is the better team. Slovakia is a tough team .

    England will beat the Scots. Scotland will try hard but they do not have enough. No talent really. Chuck I went to England vs Scotland in 1996 at the old Wembley. What an atmosphere. Was in England for the whole tournament. Incredible stuff.

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    Oh, wow, those must have been good memories. I'm sure Scotland will play their balls off. Just based on firepower, ENG has to be the winner. I can't see it otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    They pay+250-+300. Who wants-250 chalk to win every game?
    Most of the chalk games have been -110 and so on.

    Too bad you'll guess wrong more often on draw than the odds payout.

    Just take all favorites and and enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Oh, wow, those must have been good memories. I'm sure Scotland will play their balls off. Just based on firepower, ENG has to be the winner. I can't see it otherwise.
    Scottland is plus 1000. That's kind of absurd. England couldn't even win anything with Gerrard and Lampard and Rooney and Terry and all those guys, they were loaded. I've never seen Scottland play, but I honestly thought about throwing 100 on them just as a dart throw and knowing that England is overrated.

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    Live betting is so clutch for these tournaments. If you know a lot about soccer you should clean up live. Today Belgium subbed in De Bruyne and Hazard at halftime, and were +650 at half. When those two subbed in, it was lights out for Denmark. That's really what talent can do for you in these games. Denmark played their heart out but world class talent took over in the end.

    Sometimes if you like a draw for example, the better strategy is actually to wait for one team to score their first goal. Especially if that team is the favorite.

    That really goes for all sports though. The other day I took clippers +300 pre game, which I knew deep down was a mistake, because I'd get better odds in game, but I just wanted to hit submit and not watch lines during the game/check phone.

    Well I checked it at one point and they were +750ish or something, only down 10.

    The live markets react very impulsively and it's easy to take advantage if you start looking at shit like the stock market, ebs and flows, and find where value is.

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    great points

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Live betting is so clutch for these tournaments. If you know a lot about soccer you should clean up live. Today Belgium subbed in De Bruyne and Hazard at halftime, and were +650 at half. When those two subbed in, it was lights out for Denmark. That's really what talent can do for you in these games. Denmark played their heart out but world class talent took over in the end.

    Sometimes if you like a draw for example, the better strategy is actually to wait for one team to score their first goal. Especially if that team is the favorite.

    That really goes for all sports though. The other day I took clippers +300 pre game, which I knew deep down was a mistake, because I'd get better odds in game, but I just wanted to hit submit and not watch lines during the game/check phone.

    Well I checked it at one point and they were +750ish or something, only down 10.

    The live markets react very impulsively and it's easy to take advantage if you start looking at shit like the stock market, ebs and flows, and find where value is.
    You really have to have a gameplan and know what you are looking for before the game begins and you really can maximize this.

    There are some swings, and there always will be.

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    2 draws today.

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    regression?

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