[Sobob99]

I'm semi-new to soccer betting, and can someone explain this to me?

I wagered on Intertops:

World CupBelgium v Panama
Belgium v Panama: Alternative Handicaps
Panama +3 @ -200


The final score was Belgium 3-0, and it was graded as a loss. I spoke with customer service to try to get an understanding as to why it wasn't a push, and they said it was graded correctly, and then literally stopped replying. I was on chat with them for 45 mins, and then I gave up without a satisfactory explanation. I thought someone here might be able to explain it properly.

Thanks

[Hman]

Someone is sure to answer your question but I copied to the Soccer Forum for good measure.

[cincinnatikid513]

did your wager say Draw +3

[pattymayo]

Yes, should be a push.

[pattymayo]

That's a pretty routine bet, really. I don't know much about Intertops but pretty shady stuff if they're grading it a loss.

[lakerboy]

European handicap. Draw is loss. Asian handicap draw is push.

Your book had European handicap.

[GT21Megatron]

Simple: Should of played Belgium

[pattymayo]

Simple: Should of played Belgium

Don't be a dick because you've won a few games on a sport you probably never bet on otherwise.

[KVB]

I'm semi-new to soccer betting, and can someone explain this to me?

I wagered on Intertops:

World CupBelgium v Panama
Belgium v Panama: Alternative Handicaps
Panama +3 @ -200


The final score was Belgium 3-0, and it was graded as a loss. I spoke with customer service to try to get an understanding as to why it wasn't a push, and they said it was graded correctly, and then literally stopped replying. I was on chat with them for 45 mins, and then I gave up without a satisfactory explanation. I thought someone here might be able to explain it properly.

Thanks

If your bet doesn't automatically regrade overnight then try again.

If customer service runs you around again, with no explanation then notify SBR..

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/

[Sobob99]

Why is it a loss in a European handicap?

European handicap. Draw is loss. Asian handicap draw is push.

Your book had European handicap.

[GT21Megatron]

Don't be a dick because you've won a few games on a sport you probably never bet on otherwise.

Fuk off Patty...It goes both ways pal. I wasn’t being a dick, you don’t take dogs to -200 in anything....Quit being a snowflake

[Booya711]

Simple: Should of played Belgium

Don't be a dick because you've won a few games on a sport you probably never bet on otherwise.

I would agree with patty 99% of the time on this but an individual should really understand the wager before placing it no??

[lakerboy]

Why is it a loss in a European handicap?

https://www.bookmakers.bet/11885/european-handicap/

[pattymayo]

Fuk off Patty...It goes both ways pal. I wasn’t being a dick, you don’t take dogs to -200 in anything....Quit being a snowflake

I've seen your recent posts, you won a couple World Cup bets don't act like a big shot. Gambling 101.

[pattymayo]

I'd always expect a +3 or -3 to push in soccer if it landed on the number. Never heard of the "European handicap" but LB might be right if Intertops goes by that.

[stackz125]

Belgium -3
Draw+3
Panama +3

Belgium-3
Panama +3

If the bet was outlined like the first example then its a loss

If the bet was outlined like the second example then its a push.

[GT21Megatron]

[KVB]

Good post Megatron, wasn't even thinking about the European handicap. Forgot all about it.

[El Terrible]

If you wanna collect from Intertops you gotta agree to not dispute any charges they may put on your credit card...you gotta sign your life away

[Sobob99]

The options were Belgium -3, Belgium -2, Belgium -2 (Draw), Belgium -1, Belgium -1 (Draw), Panama +1, Panama +1 (Draw), Panama +2, Panama +2 (Draw), Panama +3

There was no Panama +3 (Draw) option listed. That's why I asked customer service, which option was graded as a win, but they stopped replying

Belgium -3
Draw+3
Panama +3

Belgium-3
Panama +3

If the bet was outlined like the first example then its a loss

If the bet was outlined like the second example then its a push.

[MMANick]

It's a push.

[GT21Megatron]

Sobob....I just went to the site and it’s confusing AF....There are all kinds of bets you can make and they do have an alternate option...I would assume this is the option you played because Panama was +2 and if you got +3 that’s where the confusion is....Where is your betslip?

[KVB]

[JayLA]

If it says draw, it's a three way European Handicap line which means a draw loses.

In Asian handicaps, there's no draw option cause draws push.

[VeggieDog]

I would agree with patty 99% of the time on this but an individual should really understand the wager before placing it no??

That was my first thought, also. But there's always baptism by fire.

[pattymayo]

That was my first thought, also. But there's always baptism by fire.

He might have just played only at books where it's a push. If I for some reason played at Intertops I'd expect that to push because I've never seen otherwise.

[Booya711]

He might have just played only at books where it's a push. If I for some reason played at Intertops I'd expect that to push because I've never seen otherwise.

Common sense does say push here but still have to be sure

[TheSchafe]

Sounds like 5 Dimes. Tony states wager was graded as a loss "because I'm God and I said so"...not trying to step on any toes at SBR, but how they're an A+ sportsbook is beyond me. Especially with the pisspoor customer service that they provide.

[Sobob99]

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Un...LbY-x8iLzEhQN3

Here's a screenshot of my betslip

Sobob....I just went to the site and it’s confusing AF....There are all kinds of bets you can make and they do have an alternate option...I would assume this is the option you played because Panama was +2 and if you got +3 that’s where the confusion is....Where is your betslip?

[pavyracer]

The +3 line at 5dimes was -417 for AH. So if you got -200 there was no push. You basically bet a +2.5 line disguised as a +3 with no push.

[Sobob99]

Agree 100%. I was on with their live Chat for close to an hour, and the guy replied every 15 mins with a one liner each time

Sounds like 5 Dimes. Tony states wager was graded as a loss "because I'm God and I said so"...not trying to step on any toes at SBR, but how they're an A+ sportsbook is beyond me. Especially with the pisspoor customer service that they provide.

[Sobob99]

It didn't state European or Asian. To my understanding of soccer, this should be a push

If it says draw, it's a three way European Handicap line which means a draw loses.

In Asian handicaps, there's no draw option cause draws push.

[TheSchafe]

That being said, unless this was some kind of Asian handicap, it may be graded as part loss, part push...but I don't see how it's not a push. Common sense says when you have a +3 spread line and the team loses by 3, you get your money back. Unless it was a freeplay.

[Sobob99]

Same here. There was not "Panama +3 Draw" option listed in the 8 or so options provided, but if it was there, I'd assume Panama +3 Draw would be graded as a win, and Panama +3 would be a Push, while the other options would all be losses.

I'd always expect a +3 or -3 to push in soccer if it landed on the number. Never heard of the "European handicap" but LB might be right if Intertops goes by that.

[Sobob99]

Nope, was not a freeplay. Posted the link of my betslip above

That being said, unless this was some kind of Asian handicap, it may be graded as part loss, part push...but I don't see how it's not a push. Common sense says when you have a +3 spread line and the team loses by 3, you get your money back. Unless it was a freeplay.