[MY BUM]

If some of you were wondering where I have been for quite some time.It is simple...I quit gambling several months ago because I was tired of emptying my wallet every weekend to all the continueous upsets.I lost about 30 grand in 2 years and I finally woke up and put a stop to it.Now I sit back and laugh at all the upsets like an in forn manchester united AT HOME not being able to beat lowly middlesboro who had won one of their last games and that was against bottom watford.Man-u were -$500 and it didn't come in.That is the type of game that costs me big huge money time and time again.Or how about Roma going into top club inter and beating them 3-1 only to follow that up by going to lowly atalanta and LOSING 2-1.How does one comprehend this? And I failed to mention that atalanta's previous game was a 2-0 loss to lowly ascoli.Barcelona lost surprisingly 2-0 today.Chelsea were held to a surprise draw by newcastle who were missing their best player and had only one win in their last seven and it was against lowly sheffield.The bottom line here is that I gave this gambling CRAP a good honest try for a full two years.I really don't see how anybody can come out on top in the long run.Sure you will win here and there,but over time I really can't see anything but losing money.So if you are like me and sick of losing your hard earned money to these damn sportsbooks...QUIT NOW!!!! In closing I would like to add that it was certainly a joyous weekend for the sportsbooks as I am CERTAIN they raked in a LOT of cash.

[mockingboy]

I took Boro to draw

[MY BUM]

Well goodie for you!!! SMARTASS!!

[Razz]

If some of you were wondering where I have been for quite some time.It is simple...I quit gambling several months ago because I was tired of emptying my wallet every weekend to all the continueous upsets.I lost about 30 grand in 2 years and I finally woke up and put a stop to it.Now I sit back and laugh at all the upsets like an in forn manchester united AT HOME not being able to beat lowly middlesboro who had won one of their last games and that was against bottom watford Boro have been the best team at going into Old Trafford and getting points recently.Man-u were -$500 and it didn't come in.That is the type of game that costs me big huge money time and time again.Or how about Roma going into top club inter and beating them 3-1 only to follow that up by going to lowly atalanta and LOSING 2-1 Letdown.How does one comprehend this? And I failed to mention that atalanta's previous game was a 2-0 loss to lowly ascoli.Barcelona lost surprisingly 2-0 today.Chelsea were held to a surprise draw by newcastle who were missing their best player Owen? He's been out all year. Newcastle +1 was my biggest soccer bet in two months. and had only one win in their last seven and it was against lowly sheffield.The bottom line here is that I gave this gambling CRAP a good honest try for a full two years.I really don't see how anybody can come out on top in the long run.Sure you will win here and there,but over time I really can't see anything but losing money.So if you are like me and sick of losing your hard earned money to these damn sportsbooks...QUIT NOW!!!! In closing I would like to add that it was certainly a joyous weekend for the sportsbooks as I am CERTAIN they raked in a LOT of cash.

Good luck.

[MY BUM]

I can understand the Newcastle+1 bet as at worst you would probably scratch as chelsea would generally only eek it out by a goal.However looking at the big picture with newcastle having absolutly nothing to play for and chelsea desperate for the win,my money would have been on a chelsea win here.I CAN'T understand however somebody putting money AGAINST man-u who were also highly motovated to win and AT HOME and in GREAT FORM HAVING SCORED 13 GOALS IN THEIR LAST 3 HOME GAMES.I simply don't believe anyone could have put money AGAINST man-u in this game.I honestly thing A LOT of money was lost on this game as people surely loaded up on man-u to win.Like I said earlier,I have not bet for months and did not lose any money on these games.I do however make play bets for fun from time to time and had I had money in my account my bet was going to be man-u and ac milan(who won) risking $2000 to win about $800.That was my general approach was to take two big favs and parlay them.I won more bets than I lost but still lost money over time.The teams that lost me the most money this season were Bayren munich early...real madrid mid way and late...chelsea mid way....ajax late and I lost a bundle on taking man-u in the fa cup against reading who said they were sending out a reserve squad as they wanted to concentrate on getting a top spot in the league.Well man-u drew at home but whipped them 3-1 on the road in the reverse fixture in reading.GOD DAMN MADENING IT IS.tHAT IS THE KIND OF THING THAT JUST MADE ME QUIT.I actually had an itch to reup to get in on that man-u -middlesboro draw and i'm so glad i didn't.Doubt i'll get the itch any time soon.It clearly seems the only way to bet soccer is to take the underdog and the gaol(s) there simply is NO VALUE in taking the favourites.

[MY BUM]

Oh and one more thing.I would have lost a big bundle in the NBA this weekend as well.I surely would have risked large on DALLAS at home to beat golden state in game 1.It was dallas -$700 so I woulda had to put heavy money on this one and woulda LOST AGAIN!!! I am quite happy now that I quit this BULLSHIT GAMBLING and now I can rejoyce over seeing the HUGE money I am saving now that I quit.Thumbs up to you people who have the guts to put bets AGAINST the big favourites.I certainly don't.

[noyb]

Thumbs up to you people who have the guts to put bets AGAINST the big favourites.I certainly don't.

that's exactly your problem. you only seem to be betting huge favourites, and complain if one actually loses once in a while. you should be looking for value, the odds of the bookie versus the real (in other words: perceived by you) odds of an event happening, whether this is a favourite or underdog. I could have told you two months ago, and i'm very vaguely remember doing that actually in another distant topic, just backing favourites straight-up would not make you any money, else every punter out there would be a millionaire.

[magpie]

There is no fvcking way that I'd put down more than a few hundred dollars on either a favorite or a high value underdog. On the typical wager, I'm willing to drop $20 or $40, but not much more. Unless you have a problem, this stuff should be a hobby instead of a money making operation. My purpose in wagering is to keep my interest in matches where I don't have a favorite.

[MY BUM]

I certainly don't have a problem and yes I was trying to make this a new money making operation.I now see that was a big and costly mistake.My dream was to be so good at wagering that I could quit my job.It didn't work out and I am still working...yuck.It would have been very nice to make an income from my home just using my computer to study game previews and place bets.I was spending many hours studying game previews and matchups.I would never place a bet without some study on injuries etc.So to do all these countless hours of study for a $40 bet is simply out of the question.You have the correct idea though magpie when you make small wagers to keep your interest in games that would otherwise have little interest to you.This is certainly NOT a money making profession as I have learned.

[vanman]

Depends if you have disciplin

[MY BUM]

Well I wonder how many suckers got stung by CHELSEA only manageing to draw with BOLTON who had SIX STARTERS OUT!!!!!!! I know that if I was still gambling,I would have risked my account on it and would have lost thousands.Geez,I would have taken that game as a gimmie and parlayed the hell out of it.It really amazes me that so many of these games that look like huge mismatches don't come through.God...if I could only get the nerve to put money on a Bolton club minus 6 starters to get a draw at stamford bridge against a highly motovated Chelsea squad who had won their last 5 home matches without even conceding a goal.And keep in mind that Bolton had just been beaten by Reading 3-1 on their HOME GROUND.This was a mismatch of epic proportions...a david vs. goliath.And just another reason for me to get up on the table and dance over the fact that I didn't fall into this deadly trap and lose thousands of dollars AGAIN!!!! So if YOU were one of the millions who lost money on this game...wake up and QUIT THIS BULLSHIT!!!! Trust me that you will feel a hell of a lot better.

[mockingboy]

There is no sure thing in gambling. That is why you have to look at it as a risk reward.

Go to the horse track abd bet the 3-2 favorite to win everytime, and you lose BIG TIME in the long run. Win 1 or 2 trifectas out of 10, and you can make money in the long run.

The Bolton game was VERY unexpected, imho, but thats part of the game. But that is built into the odds/pricing the books set.

Look at the Dallas-Golden State series. A lot of people on this forum that follow basketball saw how much value there was on Golden State's side even though Dallas was such a HUGE favorite.

[pavyracer]

I make most of my soccer money betting on lesser know leagues. Rarely bet on EPL or any of the British Leagues. My favorite leagues are Austrian, Swiss, Romanian, Cyprus, Italian Serie B, Spanish Segunda and the Scandinavian Leagues for the summer. I usually play the under early in the season and over late in the season. Just my 2 cents...

[MY BUM]

Another element to worry about in sports gambling are ''fixed'' matches as teams could easily make ''deals'' that would benefit each other.A great candidate for this is todays HUGE UPSET where Getafe humbled Barcelona 4-0 in the league cup game which pales in comparison to winning the league.Getafe and Barcelona play in the league in a few weeks and I feel very strongly that the teams made a ''deal'' that Barcelona roll over today and Getafe roll over in the league game.This scienero benefits both clubs as i'm sure Barcelona really don't care about the coppa del ray,but heavily covet the league title.I also sense a deal between Athletico Madrid to throw their home contest to Barcelona which would not take too much convincing as Ath will do anything to see that Real don't win it.That may be a very good bet for you people to take as it won't be overly heavily favoured.Also of note was the fact that Barc coach Frank Rijkaard was not at all upset on the sidelones the entire game and i've seen him punch the glass at far less than this.

[MY BUM]

Manchester United losing to relegation threatened West Ham in OLD TRAFFORD is a payoff if I have ever seen one.Man-u have not lost any of their last 16 home games.A ''deal'' has clearly been made here.

[tacomax]

Manchester United losing to relegation threatened West Ham in OLD TRAFFORD is a payoff if I have ever seen one.Man-u have not lost any of their last 16 home games.A ''deal'' has clearly been made here.

Come one - do you know anything about football?

This was the last game of the season in the league - ManU had already won the league so this game was meaningless from their point of view. They fielded a weakened yet decent 11 but they had no incentive to win this game - on the flip side, West Ham needed points from this game.

[MY BUM]

**** you ASSHOLE.I eat sleep and breathe soccer.Don't you dare accuse me of not knowing soccer.I know all the facts of this match.And I still say that for Man-u to LOSE ON THEIR HOME GROUND there is something going on behind the scene.Either a payoff or the teams owners or managers may be friends.Most of these teams take great pride in their home matches reguardless of the importance,and the king of this would have to be CHELSEA who also had nothing to play for but did not get beat on their home field by a much stronger team than West Ham.Now get a hair cut you PUNK.

[tacomax]

You might watch a lot but I question whether you understand it especially from a betting point of view. Time and again you bet the huge chalk and then whine when your -500 favourite doesn't win - and not only whine, but try and accuse match-fixing as the reason why you are burning your money. A -500 team isn't a guaranteed winner - statistically a -500 bet is going to lose once every six match-ups (assuming a zero vig and "perfect" line). If you don't understand how West Ham can beat ManU or if you don't understand how the Royals can beat the Yankees means you're a lot better off not betting and coming up with your ludicrous conspiracy theories instead.

[Razz]

Either a payoff or the teams owners or managers may be friends.

It was well documented that SAF and Curbs are the best of friends.

[MY BUM]

Thank you for that information RAZZ.I was not aware of that.Really makes sense now.

[duo]

hey BUM, you should know risking 500 to win 100 isn't a good bet to begin with. Book makers only made Man U a -150 to win that game too knowing the case so a West Ham bet was very probable. Everyone knew the Fergie and Curb were good friends. They mentioned it on Sky Sports all week. No wonder you lose. And if you are not consistent with your philosophy you will lose... In the Chelsea Bolton game you stated that Bolton was out 6 starters, well didn't Chelsea have injuries too? And if Man United can take great pride in their home matches with nothing to play for, then why can't Newcastle? They might have even still had UEFA cup hopes. Clearly everyone knew that match was at St. James' Park and not at Stamford Bridge.

[MY BUM]

Everyone knew the Fergie and Curb were good friends. They mentioned it on Sky Sports all week. No wonder you lose. And if you are not consistent with your philosophy you will lose... In the Chelsea Bolton game you stated that Bolton was out 6 starters, well didn't Chelsea have injuries too?

Like I said in an earlier post,I USED TO spend countless hours studying on goal and sky sports.The key words here are USED TO.For that reason I did not see that they were good friends.I can't even remember the last time I was even on sky sports.I just go to goal from time to time and generally only read about my favourite person in soccer who is JOSE MOURINHO.I said in an earlier post that I have quit gambling.Don't be a fool.In that Chelsea-Bolton game Chelsea had no NEW injuries that they didn't have when they won their 5 previous home matches keeping a clean sheet in each.And I stated that Bolton had just come off a HOME loss to Reading by a 3-1 score.So if you are trying to tell me that a very highly motovated Chelsea with very realistic title hopes not being able to beat a banged up Bolton squad AT STAMFORD BRIDGE was not a HUGE upset,then you are a damn fool!

[MY BUM]

So it is clear that Fergie rolled over here to allow a friend to stay up in top flight.That was my whole point and I called this even having no idea about their friendship.Don't be afraid to give a little credit to someone when credit is due

[duo]

I just go to goal from time to time and generally only read about my favourite person in soccer who is JOSE MOURINHO.

So your heart is with the Blues. Then if you had betted on that game you violated the cardinal rule of betting, you betted with your heart.

[MY BUM]

Yes my heart is firmly with MOURINHO where ever he may coach and in this case it is with Chelsea.No I did not bet on this game as I quit gambling long ago.However if I had still been gambling I would have lost BIG TIME on this match as it looked like an easy win.I hate Fergie but placed many bets on him in the past and he did very well for me.My most reliable team to bet on this season was PSV as I don't remember them ever letting me down.But they were always minus $600 or $800 or even $1000 so I had to parlay them.The team that cost me the most was clearly REAL MADRID...God I hate them now.The second was Bayren Munich...god have they ever slipped this year.The easiest bets are clearly early champions league rounds where it is very easy to pick two heavy favourites and pound the hell out of them in a big parlay.I made a hell of a lot of money during this period.Then of course I lost it all on regular league upsets.I feel that the next and only time I will ever be gambling is next season when the champions league starts again.I mean come on...if you can parlay Chelsea to beat Levski Sofia and Real Madrid to beat Dynamo Kiev or Lyon to beat Steau Beucrest or AC Milan to beat AEK Athens,how can you lose?

[duo]

Parleys are for fools. The odds look better to entice you but one bad cookie ruins an entire batch haha.

[MY BUM]

Well this fool had tremendous success with parlay's in the early champions league matches.

[noyb]

Well this fool had tremendous success with parlay's in the early champions league matches.

yeah, we all have our lucky streaks. unless you have some sort of a positive edge (which you clearly have not), parlays are the proven way in the long term to lose your money even faster than you would have lost betting singles.

anyway, the concept of profitable betting on sports has absolutely nothing to do with whether team A or team B will win (but instead has everything to do with how big the chances are team A or team B will win, compared to the odds you are getting for it). this concept just does not seem to catch at all on with you, so I will stop trying.

from your posts you are showing betting behaviour exactly like the mug punter bookies love so much and the reason why this business is so profitable for them. if you would have continued, you would no doubt have lost a lot more money. so quitting betting has been the best decision you most likely have ever made. my congratulations for that.

[Shooter]

lmao....I live and breath soccer..lmao Well you should live and breathe money management.

By the way...if you lose 30 grand...you definitely have a problem.

[MY BUM]

You are such a little punk shooter.For your information I am quite good at money management.I assure you that my interest income far exceeds your earned income.My net worth is closing in on the million dollar mark.I like to invest in global equity funds,dividend funds,specialty funds,canadian balanced funds,canadian dividend funds,corporate bonds and government bonds.I like trimark diversified income,agf dividend income,Mckenzie maximum divindend growth,royal bank bonds.Now who is laughing you little punk.lol.I have NEVER had any ************,bank loans or lines of credit.I live in a 3 bedroom condo that I paid cash for.I've lost more money than you will ever have.Losing 30 grand in two years does not even affect me.It would probably break you,you little punk.Now run along little boy.Man are there ever a lot of absolute assholes on here.At least I am being honest with you people.I could have come on here and lied about making tons of money gambling,but I come on here being honest about the money I lost and you people still want to shoot me down.I just don't get it.Absolute muther****ing assholes...thats all you are!!!!SO **** YAS ALL!!!!!!

[tacomax]

My net worth is 10 million dollars. And I don't type like a 9-year-old.

[BingoBango]

Dude, i think you probably put too much emphasis on recent stats whenyou were betting on the Premiership. Middlesborough are a bogey team for Man U - my advice when looking at betting on the English Premiership is to look at the previous 10 meetings between the, 5 home, 5 away, (league meetings), then look at recent form and you'll have a more balance outlook. Tke Aston Villa and Chelsea, Chelsea are far superior but Villa, again, are a bogey team for Chelsea. Chelsea couldnt beat Villa in the league this season.